请捐助十美元，帮OCEF赢得五万美元大奖，资助失学儿童重返校园！

[hcloud]

I am not at all any expert. Thanks anyway.

Wasn't it clear enough that the term "they" refers to this OECF Canada posting?

In my opinion, by posting this message here, "they" are targeting a specific group of potential donors in Canada, and, as such, "they" are raising funds from Canadian sources from within Canada. And this is not legal, I believe.

And by using the ID "OCEF Canada", people are confused if not manipulated.

Well, I know doing things online is taken advatange of here. But posting such a fund raising drive here is different from online shopping or @facebook, I am sure.

It sounded as if you were a legal representative for OCEF. If you had the interest or luxury of time, we could visit a local CRA office to get this sorted out and clarified.

组团参观3c同志！

 

[ccc]

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请捐助十美元，帮OCEF赢得五万美元大奖，资助失学儿童重返校园！

亲爱的朋友：

海外中国教育基金会（Overseas China Education Foundation, OCEF）是一群海外学
子于1992年创办的民间组织，是在美国注册的非宗教性，非政治性慈善团体，OCEF的唯
一宗旨是帮助中国国内贫困地区的孩子接受教育。OCEF至今资助了两万六千多人次(每
学期每生计为一人次)的贫困中小学生，以及2000多人次贫困优秀高中生上学读书。仅
去年一年，基金会就资助了5977名贫困中小学生，1089名贫困优秀高中生，196名贫困
教师，并资助兴建了4所学校校舍和26个农村学校图书室。OCEF的所有工作人员均为无
偿工作的义工，去年的营运费用仅为捐款总额的4%。受今年经济危机影响，我们上半年
的捐款总数只有去年同期的42%，许多助学项目可能因此受到影响，从而减少资助规模
和力度，这是我们不愿意看到的。$50美元就可以帮助这些孩子走进课堂，我们希望能
帮助更多的孩子。

我们也在尽我们所能扩大宣传和捐款。OCEF参加了今年Facebook举办的America's
Giving Challenge慈善募捐竞赛。此次活动鼓励更多的人关注慈善团体，在一个月的竞
赛中，捐款人次最多的慈善团体将赢得$50,000的大奖，每天捐款人次前两位的组织还
将赢得$1,000和$500的日奖。整
个活动于10月7日开始，并将于11月6日结束。

OCEF在10月17日才参加此次活动，但是在各位热心朋友的支持下，很快脱颖而出，捐款
人数达到3,700多人次，捐款金额超过5,4万美元，累计赢得了七天第一以及两天第二，
并在总排行榜上位居第一。如果我们可以保持领先到11月6日，我们就可以为乡村孩子
们赢得最终的5万美元大奖，这也意味着我们能多帮助一千名失学儿童重返校园。但是
，有些慈善团体在美国主流社会影响巨大，虽然参赛晚，但是上升势头强劲，OCEF现在
的优势并不能保证我们最后可以取得冠军，我们需要广大热心朋友的支持。

捐款无需Facebook账号，只需访问
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/ocef，
点击绿色的"donate"按钮，选择捐款额，然后用信用卡完成捐款即可。特别需要注意的
是，每人每天只能捐款一次，每次最低捐款10美元。在这里“天” 指的是美国东部时
间下午3点（美西时间中午12点）到第二日下午3点。此次活动是按最终捐款人次而非金
额来排定名次的，所以如果您想捐助20美元以上的话，我们希望您可以把捐款数目分成
$10一次，多捐几天，这样可以增加我们的捐款次数，更好地帮忙我们赢得大奖。本次
活动的常见问题请见

http://bbs.ocef.net/bbs/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=6136&show=0


如果您能推动您周围的人对此次活动进行关注及参与，我们将会有更大的把握在竞赛中
获胜，从而让更多的孩子受益。请把本信forward给您的同学，朋友和其他您认为合适
的热心人，让更多的人加入我们，让大家一起参与！

捐出10美元，您就可能让一个穷孩子走进课堂，从而改变他/她的命运。而5万美元，就
可以帮助1,000个孩子实现读书的梦想。我们希望您捐出$10美元，帮助他们上学受教育
，走出实现美好明天的第一步！

捐款链接：
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/ocef
OCEF助学项目的图片集锦：
http://www.ocef.org/apps/2006-photoshow/
OCEF介绍短片链接（video）：
YouTube - You Can Help - One Child at a Time (OCEF 2009)

海外中国教育基金会
http://www.ocef.org/

欢迎您通过fundraising-core@ocef.org联系我们。

Dear friends,



Overseas China Education Foundation (OCEF) was founded in 1992 by a group of
students in America; it is registered as a 501(c)(3) charitable
organization. OCEF is non-governmental, non-religious, and non-partisan; our
sole mission is to afford basic education to ecconomically disadvantaged
children in rural China. Since its inception, OCEF has sponsored more than
26,000 Grade 1-9 students and over 2,000 high school students. Last year
alone, the foundation has helped 5,977 children to attend primary and
secondary schools and 1089 children to attend high schools. We have also
supplemented the income of 196 teachers and built 4 schools, 26 libraries in
poor rural areas.



OCEF is run in entirety by volunteers; no one in the organization receives a
single penny in compensation. The operating expense for last year accounts
for just 4% of the donations. Due to the global economic recession,
donations in the first half of 2009 fell by 58% compared to the same period
last year; many projects could be adversely impacted. We especially do not
want to see sponsored children dropping out of school. $50 a year or just 13
.7 cents per day can keep a child in school. With your support, we hope to
change the lives of even more children.



We are participating in the America's Giving Challenge. It is a 30-day
national campaign to encourage participation in charitable causes. The
participant with the highest number of unique daily donations from 10/07 to
11/06 wins the grand prize of $50,000. There are also two daily awards: $1,
000 to the cause with the most unique donations and $500 to the second place.



OCEF entered the competition late on 10/17, but with the support from people
like you, we have received over 3,700 donations for more than $54,000. We
have won 9 daily prizes and are currently the leader of the overall
challenge. The competition is becoming more intense with several causes
surging in recent days, we need your help to maintain our lead and to win
the grand prize. $50,000 can keep 1,000 children in poor rural areas in
schools; we want it, they need it.



To donate to our cause, please visit http://apps.facebook.com/causes/ocef and click the "Donate" button, select the amount and enter credit card information; you do not need a Facebook account. If you want to contribute more than the minimum $10, we ask that you maximize the impact of your donation by making a $10 donation on multiple days. Note that one day is defined as from 3pm to 3pm the next day Eastern Standard Time, 12pm Pacific time.



We hope you share our compassion to help poor children goto school and to
give them a better future by donating to our cause and forwarding this
letter to all your frends and family. Thank you for your generosity,
together we can make a difference!



Donation link

http://apps.facebook.com/causes/ocef

FAQs of this event

http://bbs.ocef.net/bbs/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=6136&show=0

Pictures of our sponsored children and projects

http://www.ocef.org/apps/2006-photoshow/

OCEF on Youtube

YouTube - You Can Help - One Child at a Time (OCEF 2009)

OCEF homepage

http://www.ocef.org/

Contace us

fundraising-core@ocef.org

亲爱的朋友：


在最大的社交网站Facebook.com和causes.com主办的America's Giving Challenge慈善大赛上，我
们华人慈善组织海外中国教育基金会（Overseas China Education Foundation, OCEF）
力压群雄，暂时位居第一。这次比赛影响很大，引起了众多主流媒体的关注。很多网友
也对这次活动给予大力支持，关于这次竞赛的话题在MITBBS和华人网等论坛成为热门话题.




一共有7000多个慈善组织参加这次比赛，其中包括American Red Cross,TPRF等著名慈善组
织。在一个月的竞赛中，捐款人次（而不是捐款总额）最多的慈善团体将赢得$50,000的大奖，
每天捐款人次前三位的组织还将赢得数目不等的每日奖。整个活动将于11月6日（本星期五）
东部时间下午3点结束。在这最后一个星期里，竞争空前激烈，OCEF虽然暂时领先，
其他组织也展示了强大的实力，OCEF的领先地位岌岌可危。我们需要再坚持5天！




OCEF是在美国注册的非宗教性，非政治性慈善团体，OCEF的唯一宗旨是帮助中国国内贫
困地区的孩子接受教育。1992年成立以来，OCEF志愿者踏实努力，得到广大海外华人的
大力支持。仅去年一年，OCEF就资助了5977名中小学生和1089名高中生。
在OCEF的帮助下，很多小孩子背上书包，实现了上学的梦想，有的甚至考上大学，生命的
轨迹从此改变。$50美元就可以帮助一个农村孩子走进课堂，我们希望能帮助更多的孩子。


我们需要您的关注和支持，必要的时候请捐$10，帮我们夺得$50,000大奖,这可以一千名失学
儿童重返校园!


改变孩子的命运，让他们有更好的未来，请您轻轻一点。
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/ocef


本次活动的常见问题请见
http://bbs.ocef.net/bbs/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=6136&show=0




请把本信forward给您的同学，朋友和其他您认为合适的热心人，让更多的人加入我们。
[FONT=arial,sans-serif]我们要努力让我们华人慈善组织拿到冠军，帮助更多孩子。同时让所有人知道，我们华人[/FONT]
[FONT=arial,sans-serif]也热心公益，我们华人也可以做好慈善。[/FONT]


比赛还有5天就要结束，这是决战的时刻！


OCEF介绍短片链接（video）：
YouTube - You Can Help - One Child at a Time (OCEF 2009)


海外中国教育基金会
http://www.ocef.org/


欢迎您通过fundraising-core@ocef.org联系我们。

 

[fallinginto]

本不想多说，暗示一下就算了。可有人却放着明白装糊涂，拍案叫板，不得不多说几句。

无论这个组织在美国做得如何成功、如何奉公守法，他们的财务管理如何完善，都不能使得他们在加拿大的募捐活动具有合法性。

他们不可能不熟悉加拿大的法规。明知故犯，难道不说明点什么么？

其实，想证明他们在这里活动的合法性，很简单。报税的时候，用上他们给的收据。如果CRA接受，就证明他们是合法的。

这同捐款者无关。作为热心人，捐款，值得赞颂。

I donated some money to OCEF last year for Sichuan Earthquake. I got the receipt and used it to file my tax return. No probelm at all.

 

[独而怪]

I donated some money to OCEF last year for Sichuan Earthquake. I got the receipt and used it to file my tax return. No probelm at all.

披新马甲出来的，直说吧，您哪位？

 

[fallinginto]

披新马甲出来的，直说吧，您哪位？

I am not anyone's 马甲. I am just telling a factor.

If you have problem with that, I could find out my receipt number once I get home today or tomorrow.

 

[moody]

I am not at all any expert. Thanks anyway.
If you are not an expert, or you are not so sure, please try not to mislead people too.

Wasn't it clear enough that the term "they" refers to this "OECF Canada" posting?
Not clear enough to me. A lot of donors (including me) respond to this posting too.

In my opinion, by posting this message here, "they" are targeting a specific group of potential donors in Canada, and, as such, "they" are raising funds from Canadian sources from within Canada. And this is not legal, I believe.
I really like words "In my opinion", "I believe" from you. You can refer to whatever fact as you want. But for anything you are not sure, please let people know that is your opinion.
To me, "they" are not raising funds from Canda, they advertises this activity here. Money is not going to any of their personal account here in Canada.

And by using the ID "OCEF Canada", people are confused if not manipulated.
Yes, I was confused too. But it is just an ID.

Well, I know doing things online is taken advatange of here. But posting such a fund raising drive here is different from online shopping or @facebook, I am sure.
How different it is? It becomes illegal? I don't think so.

It sounded as if you were a legal representative for OCEF. If you had the interest or luxury of time, we could visit a local CRA office to get this sorted out and clarified.

I am not a legal representative for OCEF. I am just a donor. It is good for you to remind people about any possible frauds. But please be sure what you say is based on fact. I believe if you have friends doing volunteer work in OCEF, you might get more first-hand information. I am standing out to support this activity, because your comments are not true and are unfair to the hundreds of OCEF volunteers. Personally, I really think you give lots of good advice or comments here in CFC.

 

[ccc]

I am not anyone's 马甲. I am just telling a factor.

If you have problem with that, I could find out my receipt number once I get home today or tomorrow.

To get a better understanding, we could refer to the QA's at the CRA Web site: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/chrts/dnrs/fq/menu-eng.html

A sample receipt: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/chrts/pbs/rcpts-eng.pdf

 

[Hui]

Are you sure the receipt was issued by OCEF Canada? Seems impossible because " ......。目前OCEF在Canada 还没有成功注册。...... see post #20". How did you file tax return with Revenue Canada using the receipt? Really confusing. Please clarify.

I am not anyone's 马甲. I am just telling a factor.

If you have problem with that, I could find out my receipt number once I get home today or tomorrow.

感谢每一个关注的朋友。目前OCEF在Canada 还没有成功注册。在美国我们是合法慈善机构。
有兴趣的朋友可到ocef.org申请成为义工。出钱或出力，怎末帮都是好事。

 

[ccc]

I am not a legal representative for OCEF. I am just a donor. It is good for you to remind people about any possible frauds. But please be sure what you say is based on fact. I believe if you have friends doing volunteer work in OCEF, you might get more first-hand information. I am standing out to support this activity, because your comments are not true and are unfair to the hundreds of OCEF volunteers. Personally, I really think you give lots of good advice or comments here in CFC.

I could well be an OCEF supporter and dedicated donor. This is not a problem at all. We all should give something back to the society and the world we live in as there are so many unfortunate people out there who need help.

The only concern in my mind was if it was Okay or legal to do things as this posting does. When we received receipts, we should not claim them in our tax returns as there are special requirements and regulations that guide this whole area.

We all try to be good citizens and to start with we all want to follow laws and regulations as well as common sense.

Thanks!

 

[wiki]

I donated some money to OCEF last year for Sichuan Earthquake. I got the receipt and used it to file my tax return. No probelm at all.

不可能吧？他们发的receipt我从来就没用过。OCEF是个在美国注册的慈善机构。
你还是小心为妙，CRA可不是吃闲饭的，厉害着呢。

 

[OCEF Canada]

很高兴看见这么多反馈。我用“OCEF Canada"登记只是因为这个是加拿大分组在facebook上的名字，并没有多想，更没有混淆视听的目的。在我们网站或任何地方，我们都明确说明in Canada, 我们还在进行注册。我衷心希望有更多人加入我们义工队伍，这样你就能了解这个组织的运作。

我们会加油的

 

[ccc]

很高兴看见这么多反馈。我用“OCEF Canada"登记只是因为这个是加拿大分组在facebook上的名字，并没有多想，更没有混淆视听的目的。在我们网站或任何地方，我们都明确说明in Canada, 我们还在进行注册。我衷心希望有更多人加入我们义工队伍，这样你就能了解这个组织的运作。

我们会加油的

没有什么，谁都有挂一漏万的时候。很高兴有你们这些人为中国大陆的孩子做善事。

其实，避免产生误会，完全可以交代几句（例如OCEF没有在加注册，提供的收据不能用于在加国报税目的等等），提供点简单的信息，再给链接就够了。

加油!

 

[wiki]

3小C童鞋总喜欢YY，这个America Challenge是Causes.com跟Facebook联合举办的，根本就不是什么在加拿大募捐，何来什么breaking Canadian laws? 我看了你一本正经的回帖都要笑晕了。:lol2:

您甭死揪着LZ ID不松口，人就是吆喝一下，您乐意捐就掏10刀，要是舍不得这10刀也拜托您给有心帮助失学孩子的人一个机会。本来一件简简单单的事生生给您整成了大是非了。我真不明白您到底做嘛的？整天泡网上跟专家一样逮着什么都发表点相反的意见显示自己与众不同咋的？你是不是打小起就缺点关爱，总要seek attention?

Bottom line: 帮助OCEF赢得这个challenge，能挽救一千个孩子读一年书！说不定也因此而改变他们的一生呢。

谢谢大家。我跟你们一样，就是一个普通人，一位妈妈，为中国教育尽点力所能及的事，很惭愧，应该可以做得更多的。

 

[OCEF Canada]

昨天忙得没停过，今天上来才看见这么多回帖。哈哈，至少有人帮我UP帖子。上次我发的帖半天就下去了。
捐款会有收据，但不能在加拿大报。这次facebook上的活动恐怕不会有收据。

wiki 已经帮忙post 好多link, 谢谢啊

加拿大登记一个合法组织不容易，主要是没有足够的人和时间。所以我们需要更多义工。

没有什么，谁都有挂一漏万的时候。很高兴有你们这些人为中国大陆的孩子做善事。

其实，避免产生误会，完全可以交代几句（例如OCEF没有在加注册，提供的收据不能用于在加国报税目的等等），提供点简单的信息，再给你个链接就够了。

加油!

 

[ccc]

3小C童鞋总喜欢YY，这个America Challenge是Causes.com跟Facebook联合举办的，根本就不是什么在加拿大募捐，何来什么breaking Canadian laws? 我看了你一本正经的回帖都要笑晕了。:lol2:

您甭死揪着LZ ID不松口，人就是吆喝一下，您乐意捐就掏10刀，要是舍不得这10刀也拜托您给有心帮助失学孩子的人一个机会。本来一件简简单单的事生生给您整成了大是非了。我真不明白您到底做嘛的？整天泡网上跟专家一样逮着什么都发表点相反的意见显示自己与众不同咋的？你是不是打小起就缺点关爱，总要seek attention?

Bottom line: 帮助OCEF赢得这个challenge，能挽救一千个孩子读一年书！说不定也因此而改变他们的一生呢。

谢谢大家。我跟你们一样，就是一个普通人，一位妈妈，为中国教育尽点力所能及的事，很惭愧，应该可以做得更多的。

看着你还是个有爱心的女人，就不同你认真了。

不过，您仅仅在这个帖中，就几次数落我个人如何如何。其实，这是不妥的。我YY也好，整天泡网也好，不在您的管辖范围。

您不用这种家庭妇女或者街道居民委员会老大妈的口气说话，您也应该可以把问题说清楚。您觉得您自己这样交流，很有幽默感，是么？

对了，敬佩您的奉献精神！