Minto特大购房悲剧始今(2011年2月至2011年5月27日)
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Why I am having a feeling that the previous purchaser found out the size issue during frame walk and was arguing with minto with this issue, minto's lawyer told that guy, you are in default blablabla and to reduce minto's lost, minto is going to put this house back on market, so here came the new buyer. ????
I can't believe any builder will start the construction for someone that just put a hold on the house without any firm agreement signed.
I can't believe any builder will start the construction for someone that just put a hold on the house without any firm agreement signed.
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按照楼主的意思是说当时她买房的时候这个房子已经有STRUCTURE了，也就是说当时这个房子的所有结构已经报批CITY拿到了PERMIT了。既然CITY留档的是REDUCED 户型，销售不可能不知道这个房子要建成的是一个REDUCED的户型。同时买这样的房子的时候，在STRUCTURE上面是基本不能改动了，你看到的就是你最后买的STRUCTURE。而且这样的房子是没有所谓的标准价格的，都是BUILDER根据当时的价格和建筑的进程定的，因为它和真正RELEASE LOT的方式不一样。楼主所说的UPGRADE，应该多数在DESIGN CENTER做的。
这中间到底是哪里出了问题（可能性很多，有的对楼主有利，有的不一定有利）也是解决问题的关键点。当然，最终肯定是MINTO的错误，（因为合同是具备法律效力的文件，交的东西和合同不一致，他们必然要承担责任）但原因不一样，解决方法未见得相同。
楼主一定把这些都和你的律师说清楚，这些对于你要做的决定都是重要的因素。
这中间到底是哪里出了问题（可能性很多，有的对楼主有利，有的不一定有利）也是解决问题的关键点。当然，最终肯定是MINTO的错误，（因为合同是具备法律效力的文件，交的东西和合同不一致，他们必然要承担责任）但原因不一样，解决方法未见得相同。
楼主一定把这些都和你的律师说清楚，这些对于你要做的决定都是重要的因素。
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这个贴子写得比较清楚了。楼主是有提出自己的条件的。Minto提出赔一万，楼主提出赔三万。Minto居然不还价了，直接拒绝，这太霸道了。一般来说过错方首先提出的价格都是他们希望损失的最小限度，心里承受价位应该更高的。这样的话如果上厅，法官会从中调解，楼主应该会得到的多一些。其实这时候需要中间人去斡旋了，把赔偿价格定在双方都满意的程度。你的律师啊，不给力。
但如果上厅的话，Minto会有充足的理由的。他们向市里申报的就是这种房型，出错的是销售人员，而销售人员的错误不会完全由公司承担。这官司打起来真得很讨厌。销售人员有些是很笨的，我去年买新车，销售员一再给我说一款车的四驱和两驱是一个大小，可两个车摆到一起明显不一样。
但如果上厅的话，Minto会有充足的理由的。他们向市里申报的就是这种房型，出错的是销售人员，而销售人员的错误不会完全由公司承担。这官司打起来真得很讨厌。销售人员有些是很笨的，我去年买新车，销售员一再给我说一款车的四驱和两驱是一个大小，可两个车摆到一起明显不一样。
Minto does this all the time. When lots are released, they all have the closing dates defined. If a lot doesn't get sold at certain date, they will select a model and start the construction.
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惭愧得很，我买的是二手房，不了解过程。那就走法律途径吧。祝好运。
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Try these:
Ministry of Consumer Services:
http://www.sse.gov.on.ca/mcs/en/Pages/default.aspx
Consumer's Association of Canada:
http://www.consumer.ca/1506
Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation:
http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/corp/about/index.cfm
Ministry of Consumer Services:
http://www.sse.gov.on.ca/mcs/en/Pages/default.aspx
Consumer's Association of Canada:
http://www.consumer.ca/1506
Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation:
http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/corp/about/index.cfm
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http://www.sse.gov.on.ca/mcs/en/Pages/New_Home_Condo_Warranties.aspx
Is my new home or condominium warranted against defective work?
Yes. When you buy a newly built home or condominium in Ontario, it comes with a comprehensive warranty required by law. New homeowners are protected by One-Year, Two-Year and Seven-Year warranties that cover defects in workmanship, water penetration and major structural defects. This warranty also covers delayed closing and deposit protection.
Tarion Warranty Corporation administers Ontario’s new home warranty laws. Every builder of a new home built for sale in Ontario is required to register with Tarion’s Warranty Program and enroll every new home or condominium unit prior to construction. According to the law, this warranty takes effect from the date of possession and remains in effect even if the owner sells the house or condominium unit before the end of the warranty period.
New home warranty coverage may vary depending on the type of home you buy. For instance, condominium conversions and homes built on existing footings or foundations are not covered under warranty.
For clarification of your specific warranty coverage, contact Tarion directly at 1-877-982-7466 or (416) 229-9200, or see the What’s Excluded section of Tarion’s website.
Is my new home or condominium warranted against defective work?
Yes. When you buy a newly built home or condominium in Ontario, it comes with a comprehensive warranty required by law. New homeowners are protected by One-Year, Two-Year and Seven-Year warranties that cover defects in workmanship, water penetration and major structural defects. This warranty also covers delayed closing and deposit protection.
Tarion Warranty Corporation administers Ontario’s new home warranty laws. Every builder of a new home built for sale in Ontario is required to register with Tarion’s Warranty Program and enroll every new home or condominium unit prior to construction. According to the law, this warranty takes effect from the date of possession and remains in effect even if the owner sells the house or condominium unit before the end of the warranty period.
New home warranty coverage may vary depending on the type of home you buy. For instance, condominium conversions and homes built on existing footings or foundations are not covered under warranty.
For clarification of your specific warranty coverage, contact Tarion directly at 1-877-982-7466 or (416) 229-9200, or see the What’s Excluded section of Tarion’s website.
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这房子现在到底是啥情况？ 看楼主所写，Minto 收回了房子，又放到市场上去卖。 那楼主的押金呢？ 楼主到底是想要怎样的结果呢？
俺想了一下，只有三种可能的结果：
1. 接受1万赔偿，搬入房子；
2. 接受1万赔偿，等一年再搬入另外一个新房。
3. 退回押金，再加上赔偿，楼主另外买房。
至于是1万的赔偿，还是2万、3万的赔偿，只有谈判了。 如果谈不下来，这事还真不好办。 打官司，费时、费钱、费神，楼主可能耗不起啊。
不管怎么说，生活还是要继续。 也许，退一步，就是海阔天空。 祝楼主早日搬入新房。
俺想了一下，只有三种可能的结果：
1. 接受1万赔偿，搬入房子；
2. 接受1万赔偿，等一年再搬入另外一个新房。
3. 退回押金，再加上赔偿，楼主另外买房。
至于是1万的赔偿，还是2万、3万的赔偿，只有谈判了。 如果谈不下来，这事还真不好办。 打官司，费时、费钱、费神，楼主可能耗不起啊。
不管怎么说，生活还是要继续。 也许，退一步，就是海阔天空。 祝楼主早日搬入新房。
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对于1和2，minto都不会用'霸王条款'。双方都亏一点。
对于3，是minto可以用'霸王条款'，马上把房子放在市场上卖，minto不会亏的。楼主当然亏了。
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