大盘见底了吗?

还要留1/5是不100%肯定底部, 如果再跌,手上有点东西再买,取得一点点心理平衡而已。

6200后见2000点不是经常有的事,平常年景能抓住这种“小顶和小底”,我挺满意。

基金比股市的风险小点,但是“低买高卖“的原理是一样的。克服了贪心和恐惧,真不难:D:D

你闲得慌,我也吃饱了撑着,再回你一帖。

1)你能准确地预测市场的顶部和底部,神人一个,不才一服!

2)你能克服了贪心和恐惧,又是神人一个,不才二服!!悄悄地问一句,你还用吃饭、睡觉、喝水、上厕所吗?

3)你买卖基金又以天做计算单位还能有满意的回报,更是神人一个,不才三服!!! 也悄悄地问一句,你那满意的回报率是多少?

三服之后呢,当然是三鄙了!

1)你自相矛盾,前言不对后语。 “还要留1/5是不100%肯定底部, 如果再跌,手上有点东西再买,取得一点点心理平衡而已”,做法不错!但前面帖子的“在最底部买回了4/5”,这个“最”是哪来的呢?此一鄙!

2)买卖基金又以天做计算单位还能有满意的回报,这天底下恐怕就你一人。不过,你那满意的回报率可能低得超出了常人的想象极限。这本来也是天经地义的,但你却“意淫”于公共论坛并乐此不疲,此二鄙!!

3)你出于自己的角度坚持自己的想法做法,很值得赞赏!但对别人跟你不一样的想法做法指手划脚、冷嘲热讽,俨然一副教训人的大师嘴脸,此三鄙!

结论

1)如果你以理财顾问的面目凭这些帖子的内容推销到我家,请你走人的就是门前放着的那把扫把!

2)上CFC发帖回帖,记录之外,娱乐而已。

3)三服三鄙之后,预祝你取得自己满意的结果!
 
”假定增长了10%就卖出“虽然是个很好的计划, 不过兵无常势水无常形, 固定一个数字肯定不是最好的。09年拜前一年百年不遇的金融危机所赐,我的基金涨幅超过50%。我现在自己有10几万,帮朋友打理10几万, 达到了你说的”资金是几十万“的最低要求哈 :D

Only 50% out of the floor ? Even S&P 500 almost doubled ! If it is 50% off the 2007 high, then your operation is really respectful. Otherwise, there is a lot of room for improvement.

Opportunities for double were everywhere at that time and the best place was index. Did you remember WFC was at $9 and AXP was $10 ?

So, wake up if you only gain 50% off 2009 low !
 
Only 50% out of the floor ? Even S&P 500 almost doubled ! If it is 50% off the 2007 high, then your operation is really respectful. Otherwise, there is a lot of room for improvement.

Opportunities for double were everywhere at that time and the best place was index. Did you remember WFC was at $9 and AXP was $10 ?

So, wake up if you only gain 50% off 2009 low !


08年9月的时候我全卖了,所以我自己从没到过那个floor。
2010年我的回报是23%,这个怎么样?
 
你闲得慌,我也吃饱了撑着,再回你一帖。

1)你能准确地预测市场的顶部和底部,神人一个,不才一服!

2)你能克服了贪心和恐惧,又是神人一个,不才二服!!悄悄地问一句,你还用吃饭、睡觉、喝水、上厕所吗?

3)你买卖基金又以天做计算单位还能有满意的回报,更是神人一个,不才三服!!! 也悄悄地问一句,你那满意的回报率是多少?

三服之后呢,当然是三鄙了!

1)你自相矛盾,前言不对后语。 “还要留1/5是不100%肯定底部, 如果再跌,手上有点东西再买,取得一点点心理平衡而已”,做法不错!但前面帖子的“在最底部买回了4/5”,这个“最”是哪来的呢?此一鄙!

2)买卖基金又以天做计算单位还能有满意的回报,这天底下恐怕就你一人。不过,你那满意的回报率可能低得超出了常人的想象极限。这本来也是天经地义的,但你却“意淫”于公共论坛并乐此不疲,此二鄙!!

3)你出于自己的角度坚持自己的想法做法,很值得赞赏!但对别人跟你不一样的想法做法指手划脚、冷嘲热讽,俨然一副教训人的大师嘴脸,此三鄙!

结论

1)如果你以理财顾问的面目凭这些帖子的内容推销到我家,请你走人的就是门前放着的那把扫把!

2)上CFC发帖回帖,记录之外,娱乐而已。

3)三服三鄙之后,预祝你取得自己满意的结果!


我就说了3句,你说这么多,可见我说的是精华 :D:D:D
 
我就说了3句,你说这么多,可见我说的是精华 :D:D:D

说少者未必精华 --- 听说过"理屈此穷“这成语吧?

说多者也未必废话 --- 不才不是在画蛇,所以,比你多说不少但决不是在添足!

刚忙完别的事,再你回一帖吧。

你沾沾自喜及对别人做法的冷嘲热讽不是针对我,跟我5分钱的关系都没有;你做什么,赚多少也跟我5分钱的关系都没有 --- 就像我赔了很多钱跟你5分钱的关系都没有一样!之所以浪费时间精力回你的帖是因为路见不平而教训教训你!想起一句谚语,”不知天高地厚“,用你身上实在是再合适不过了!做TSX venture fund的小屁孩,竟然跟做PCLN、AAPL,NFLX的玩家叫起板来了?这世道难不成真人心不古了?发帖回帖前,撒泡尿先照照自己吧。
 
说少者未必精华 --- 听说过"理屈此穷“这成语吧?

说多者也未必废话 --- 不才不是在画蛇,所以,比你多说不少但决不是在添足!

刚忙完别的事,再你回一帖吧。

你沾沾自喜及对别人做法的冷嘲热讽不是针对我,跟我5分钱的关系都没有;你做什么,赚多少也跟我5分钱的关系都没有 --- 就像我赔了很多钱跟你5分钱的关系都没有一样!之所以浪费时间精力回你的帖是因为路见不平而教训教训你!想起一句谚语,”不知天高地厚“,用你身上实在是再合适不过了!做TSX venture fund的小屁孩,竟然跟做PCLN、AAPL,NFLX的玩家叫起板来了?这世道难不成真人心不古了?发帖回帖前,撒泡尿先照照自己吧。



做什么重要吗? 赚钱才是硬道理 --- 这个你可懂???
 
08年9月的时候我全卖了,所以我自己从没到过那个floor。
2010年我的回报是23%,这个怎么样?


For 2010, you beat S&P 500 or TSX by 7%. So, congratulations !

However, there are two more parameters one need to consider:

1). What are the risks taken in order to gain this 7% ?
2). What is your long-term performance ?

For instance, September of 2008 might be an interim top and there was a sharp down-turn in 2009. I guess you missed the big gain in 2009 to 2010.

What is your performance for 2010 ?

A more fundamental issue of an operation is what will you do if your portfolio is down. For instance, your established position at 1400 of Venture index, what will you do if it goes down to 1350 ?

As a index speculator, all you have is technical analysis and/or macro analysis. If gold is below $1000, gas is below $1, oil is below $80, Venture will be crushed flat. What will you do ?

Your answer is that you will get out long before at a smaller loss. However, such question always exist as soon as you have a position.

Same question exists for an individual company. At the top of the crisis, AXP was sold for $10. Buffett held 13% of the company and was on CNBC. When asked about it, he just smiled and said it was overdone.

At the time, if one opens up AXP's 10-K, one could see pretty clearly that AXP can stand total loss of $60 B loan over the next few years and still stay alive. The only risks are: 1). Executives are crooks; 2). AXP was nationalized. So, decisions are much easier.

Since you are managing large sums, I guess we can all learn from each other's experiences. Different views or even heated arguments are needed in order to flush out new ideas.

So, let's keep this topic alive and fight like comrades in the market.
 
做什么重要吗? 赚钱才是硬道理 --- 这个你可懂???

Since your focus is on Venture, are you interested in download all the companies on Venture and look at them one by one ?

If you are interested, we can work together, from a to z. First by recent annual report and can quickly screen out most of them ...
 
做什么重要吗? 赚钱才是硬道理 --- 这个你可懂???

做什么,怎么做,都不重要!赚钱这个硬道理,我也不懂,我败军之将,亏大钱呢!

爷训你的是做人的道理 --- 先学着做人,再学着做事!凭你这样的做人法,做事也好,做股票做基金也罢,都走不了太远的 --- 当然也和我5分钱的关系都没有!

好了,训你训够了。爷忙着呢,不想再陪你玩了,你接着“意淫”并好好地享受吧!
 
For 2010, you beat S&P 500 or TSX by 7%. So, congratulations !

However, there are two more parameters one need to consider:

1). What are the risks taken in order to gain this 7% ?
2). What is your long-term performance ?

For instance, September of 2008 might be an interim top and there was a sharp down-turn in 2009. I guess you missed the big gain in 2009 to 2010.

What is your performance for 2010 ?

A more fundamental issue of an operation is what will you do if your portfolio is down. For instance, your established position at 1400 of Venture index, what will you do if it goes down to 1350 ?

As a index speculator, all you have is technical analysis and/or macro analysis. If gold is below $1000, gas is below $1, oil is below $80, Venture will be crushed flat. What will you do ?

Your answer is that you will get out long before at a smaller loss. However, such question always exist as soon as you have a position.

Same question exists for an individual company. At the top of the crisis, AXP was sold for $10. Buffett held 13% of the company and was on CNBC. When asked about it, he just smiled and said it was overdone.

At the time, if one opens up AXP's 10-K, one could see pretty clearly that AXP can stand total loss of $60 B loan over the next few years and still stay alive. The only risks are: 1). Executives are crooks; 2). AXP was nationalized. So, decisions are much easier.

Since you are managing large sums, I guess we can all learn from each other's experiences. Different views or even heated arguments are needed in order to flush out new ideas.

So, let's keep this topic alive and fight like comrades in the market.

Obviously, you are a good english article writer , but not a good investor/trader/speculator. It seems Buffet is the only one to make money in this world.

How many stocks you knows except financial stocks? how many stocks trade in TSX and TSXV and how many stocks trade in US market ?
How many sectors are out performance in bull market (Special QE peroid) ? Which market is the biggest commodities stock market ?

If you want to know other peoples performance , show your performance first . I said that if you think you are a good trader/investors , at least achieve 200-500% anually for small money account. Big money is another story.


And How do you know Ottawa nobody made millions from stock market except Jia ? How many sucessful traders/investors/speculators you know in Ottawa?


Say it again :" Buffet is the trap for most individule investors." Please do not say Buffet in each post.

Every successful trader/investor/speculator has own edge to make big money in stock market .
 
做什么,怎么做,都不重要!赚钱这个硬道理,我也不懂,我败军之将,亏大钱呢!

爷训你的是做人的道理 --- 先学着做人,再学着做事!凭你这样的做人法,做事也好,做股票做基金也罢,都走不了太远的 --- 当然也和我5分钱的关系都没有!

好了,训你训够了。爷忙着呢,不想再陪你玩了,你接着“意淫”并好好地享受吧!



我怎么脚得你有点心虚呢。 你那个帖子,我就瞟了一眼,太长了,没细看。不好意思。我不知道你是赚钱还是亏钱,真的。

如果讲做人做事的道理,那是重要,但是我没时间跟你扯,更不会在这个坛子上。 行, 我继续意淫,您走好。
 
Since your focus is on Venture, are you interested in download all the companies on Venture and look at them one by one ?

If you are interested, we can work together, from a to z. First by recent annual report and can quickly screen out most of them ...


我现在只做基金,研究一个一个公司,没那时间。我不想分散太多的精力。不好意思。
 
Smile2010:" Buffet is the trap for most individule investors."

Please enlighten us which part of Buffet is trap?
 
Smile2010:" Buffet is the trap for most individule investors."

Please enlighten us which part of Buffet is trap?

对很多散户,买股票就想做长线,套住了,更有理由了. BUFFET 今年还在40多买过FSLR呢?

还有张口就是BUFFET.
 
对很多散户,买股票就想做长线,套住了,更有理由了. BUFFET 今年还在40多买过FSLR呢?

还有张口就是BUFFET.

BUFFET 卖 掉FSLR 了吗?

俺有 一 些 2014 jan calls

如果 老闲 能 坚持 每年 23%
四 五 十年 后, 老闲 就是BUFFET :D

顶 老闲, 关键 在于 长期 赚钱。
 
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