Joseph Prince

[focus on today]

在这样的 “preaching grace” 的 情况下，怎样处理“规劝” 和“责备”，倒是个 好题目，值得再着探讨。

 

[joanna777]

这里有一篇声讨JP的文章，指出来他的讲道中暴露出来的一些瑕疵：

http://www.forgottenword.org/joseph-prince.html
Let’s take a look at some of Prince’s other teachings and them see how they line up with the Word of God.

A sampling of Joseph Prince’s false teachings:

Nothing but blessings for the believer
No longer a need to be concerned about God’s Judgment
Repentance and confession of sin is never necessary
Wealth is for all Christians
God is continually restoring “New Truths” to the church—-New Revelations
Prince’s personal revelation from God is: “More grace; less judgment”
Prince believes that God WILL NOT JUDGE America because of the cross
The Moral law has no bearing on Christians today; it was abolished with the Ceremonial law
Prince says that he never encountered anyone that said “now I can go out and sin because of grace”
Repentance means “Only to turn around”

 

[joanna777]

他的观点在很大程度上与朴玉洙的一致，是我不能接受的：
1）神赦免人的一切罪，人可以从此以后不再需要认罪悔改，也没有属灵争战
2）神在经济上Bless，作为传（相信）正确福音的证据

第一种观点可能会导致的后果是，基督徒可能因为行为的问题使主的名遭到玷污，而其个人可能因为“不跟从”基督而遭遇基督的拒绝“你们这些作恶的人，我不认识你们，离开我去吧”。
第二种观点的潜在性后果是，对物质财富的占有合理化，被财富捆绑，比如Binny Hinn，失去节制，以至于沉沦。

其实我想说的是，人是否有沉沦的可能呢？既然撒旦是上帝所造的最美的天使，是否曾思考过自己会沉沦呢？关键问题是，你是否体贴肉体？体贴肉体的就是死。体贴圣灵的乃是生命平安。

我想每个人的答案或许不同，Joseph Prince的讲道很有保罗的风格，但是有趣的事，人听了基督的话心里就被洁净，人听了保罗的话却分党了，为什么呢？我想保罗的讲道不是适合所有人的，而只是适合犹太人听（虽然他传福音给外邦人），他强调的重点其实都是指向犹太人的问题的，并非外邦人的问题。而犹太人在基督里却成为了真正意义上的外邦人，外邦人得救的却成为了基督徒。Joseph和保罗都没有讲错，讲的是基督降临的意义，劝人归主，好像天使在街上拉人进去坐席的；但是别忘了，坐席完后，还有被从筵席上赶出来的，因为他们“没有穿礼服”，礼服是什么呢？我想就是义行了。
有点矫枉过正的感觉。虽然我们得救不是靠行为，我们蒙恩不是靠行为，但是，我们的主是按着行为来判断我们，先是神家里的人，后是外邦人。一个真正的福音里面包含了一条重要的要素，就是劝人行善，劝人努力做好人，虽然我们做不到，但是靠着圣灵，靠着我们主耶稣基督的恩典，我们就可以。而不是说，既然我们努力也做不好，我们干脆不做了吧，这时候主就在我们身上做工了。我们还是应该持续的祷告，求圣灵的帮助，使我们可以成为完全，我想。

 

[joanna777]

another opponent of his:
http://gladysrussell.blogspot.ca/2009/01/destined-to-reign-by-joseph-prince.html

 

[joanna777]

这篇信息讲得很好http://www.fyyy.tv/vod/index/play.asp?film1=33119&film2=1963&serverip=169 为你的意念争战

 

[focus on today]

）神赦免人的一切罪，人可以从此以后不再需要认罪悔改，也没有属灵争战
2）神在经济上Bless，作为传（相信）正确福音的证据

如果以上两点是他的观点，我也不接受。

 

[Happy Angel]

诗篇32篇1节：得赦免其过，遮盖其罪的，这人是有福的。

5节：我向你陈明我的罪，不隐瞒我的恶。我说：“我要向耶和华承认我的过犯。”你就赦免我的罪恶。

 

[joanna777]

主是赦免一切罪的主，他拣选了我们，使我们可以向着他活。

 

[Happy Angel]

圣灵之光照耀着我们！:glowface:

约翰一书2章5节：凡遵守主道的，爱神的心在他里面实在是完全的。从此我们知道我们是在主里面。

 

[focus on today]

Introduce a pastor - Paul Washer

Paul Washer

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Paul David WasherNationalityAmericanEducationSouthwestern Baptist Theological SeminaryOccupationFounder/Director, Missions Coordinator, PastorReligionChristian (Baptist)Spouse(s)Charo WasherPaul David Washer (born 1961) is the Founder/Director & Missions Coordinator of HeartCry Missionary Society which supports indigenous missionary work.[1] He is also a Southern Baptist itinerant preacher. Washer's sermons tend to have an evangelistic focus on the gospel and the doctrine of the assurance of salvation and predestination, and he frequently speaks against practices such as the sinner's prayer, and a focus on numerical church growth


Washer had a born again experience while studying to become an oil and gas lawyer at the University of Texas. Upon graduation, he attended Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and achieved a Master of Divinity degree. He then moved to Peru to become a missionary for 10 years, after which he returned to the United States. Washer resides in Radford, Virginia,[2] where he lives with his wife and three children.

Washer's sermons often focus on the character of Christ and how a person is saved from Hell. According to Washer, a person is saved through faith alone, but the evidence of a person's walk with Jesus is by repentance. Washer claims that most people who profess a belief in Christianity aren't truly saved. Washer blames preachers, as he claims many preachers often say a person is saved without looking for evidence of repentance in that person's life.

Washer preaches that those who claim to be a Christian but still live like the world may not even be saved (he does not proclaim that anyone in particular is going to Hell). He gleans this teaching from Matthew 7:15-23.

Washer cites Thomas Watson, John Flavel, R.C. Sproul, John F. MacArthur, George Muller, John Piper, Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield, Charles Spurgeon, Leonard Ravenhill, John Wesley, A.W. Tozer and Martyn Lloyd-Jones among others, as influences.[3] He has frequently appeared on Christian radio to discuss how people are saved.[

 

[joanna777]

感谢神，神使用不同的福音使者，为要拯救不同的人，造就不同的工人，都有他的美意。或许这个仆人不能帮助某个人，但是总有一个仆人可以帮助他；或许神带领不同的人要走的路和要经历的恩典都不相同，但是都有神的指引。他用什么样的人就拯救什么样的人得救。我们也真的是从不同风格不同恩赐的牧师传道的身上，看到神丰丰富富的恩典。

 

[focus on today]

Joanna 777, 感谢你对宗教版的贡献。