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最初由 Bridge 发布
我就是王政。我不是个家伙,我是位女士。

真没想到,粗看了一下王律师过去的帖子,可不象40来岁的女士,倒象20出头的小姑娘。

顺便问一下,当年您在美国所受的不公平待遇,曾是轰动一时的新闻(不仅仅是华人社区),后来怎么解决的? 是公了,是私了,还是不了了之? 这对于楼上的gentleboy很重要。记得当年王律师曾委屈地对媒体说(大意): 自己在加国住了多年并入了加籍,但是美国人仍然拿您当中国人对待。有心者可以查查当年的Ottawa Citizen
 
visitor不会也有这种见到名人先到桌下翻老帐本的僻好?何况把年龄这种事拿出来议论。王律师过去的帖子,到底是象40来岁的女士,还是象20出头的小姑娘只怕不是你一张嘴说了算的。当然有几位朋友很是喜欢把别人的私事挂在嘴边揉进帖子的,而且这几位朋友的在思想意识价值观念上有着共同的取向。俺不知道这是不是中国人的一种习性?

看你的话,应该是对该事前因后果很清楚的,何至于多此一问?
 
最初由 辟邪 发布
visitor不会也有这种见到名人先到桌下翻老帐本的僻好?何况把年龄这种事拿出来议论。王律师过去的帖子,到底是象40来岁的女士,还是象20出头的小姑娘只怕不是你一张嘴说了算的。当然有几位朋友很是喜欢把别人的私事挂在嘴边揉进帖子的,而且这几位朋友的在思想意识价值观念上有着共同的取向。俺不知道这是不是中国人的一种习性?

看你的话,应该是对该事前因后果很清楚的,何至于多此一问?

王女士是挂牌营业的律师,她的岁数写在脸上,40来岁正是律师的黄金时期,太年轻显得没有经验。当年因为王女士的(大意): 自己在加国住了多年并入了加籍,但是美国人仍然拿自己当中国人对待,而被前一带愤青骂为XX。没想到现在的辟愤青在"思想意识价值观念上",比前一代愤青有这么大的不同。

写这贴的目的,不过是怀疑这个20出头的Bridge是不是王律师。

既然,这个Bridge说自己是王政律师,并对gentleboy的事指手划脚,能不能结合自己当年的事,现身说法。您还别说,当年的事,大家只知道前因,因为登在了Ottawa Citizen上,后果可没人知道。

如果Bridge不是王政律师,那就是流氓。

另外,王政律师真姓王吗(法律上)?
 
这么说来,你是在为40来岁的王女士扬名做广告?看来是我误解你的好心了。但愿只有我一个人误解你。
 
游客,行为象狗仔队,提问象法官,骂人象xx腺,造谣象...?
 
最初由 mike 发布
游客,行为象狗仔队,提问象法官,骂人象xx腺,造谣象...?

果然是老习惯 -- 只骂人,不说事。这样也好,省得露怯。

要说造谣,真不敢当,您老最近一次好不容易说点事,就弄出个:机电部一院研制导弹,信息产业部是由电子部演变而来。
 
王政律师在明处,visitor你在暗处,自然会有人怀疑你的提问动机。 如果你对名人感兴趣,那自然可以征得人家同意以后,见见面,可以去上门拜访一下,当面采访多么好,然后还可以写篇稿子,赚些稿费。你看我出的都是好主意。
 
最初由 wushuren 发布
王政律师在明处,visitor你在暗处,自然会有人怀疑你的提问动机。 如果你对名人感兴趣,那自然可以征得人家同意以后,见见面,可以去上门拜访一下,当面采访多么好,然后还可以写篇稿子,赚些稿费。你看我出的都是好主意。

wushuren误会了。我感兴趣的是这个自称是王政律师的Bridge网民,到底是不是王政律师。
 
最初由 visitor 发布


果然是老习惯 -- 只骂人,不说事。这样也好,省得露怯。

要说造谣,真不敢当,您老最近一次好不容易说点事,就弄出个:机电部一院研制导弹,信息产业部是由电子部演变而来。

又造谣不是,

本人有哪一句说过你上面说的话? 要证明很容易,老帖子都还在。

真是添油加醋,掐头去尾,你老的这些雕虫小技,说重了就是不要lian了。
 
王女士是挂牌营业的律师,见过她的人不少,Ottawa Citizen也登过她的照片,说她四十多岁应该差不多,可是这mike从来没见过本人,却说我"四十来岁,秃头",算是造谣,还是诽谤?您老的脸还有没有?

既然这mike除了骂人就是露怯,要我说,您老还是识趣点,别跟在咱后面找不自在,好歹要点脸。

mike打了半天岔,言归正传,这个自称是王政律师的Bridge是千呼万唤不出来。
 
最初由 visitor 发布
王女士是挂牌营业的律师,见过她的人不少,Ottawa Citizen也登过她的照片,说她四十多岁应该差不多,可是这mike从来没见过本人,却说我"四十来岁,秃头",算是造谣,还是诽谤?您老的脸还有没有?

既然这mike除了骂人就是露怯,要我说,您老还是识趣点,别跟在咱后面找不自在,好歹要点脸。

mike打了半天岔,言归正传,这个自称是王政律师的Bridge是千呼万唤不出来。

还记得自己"四十来岁,秃头"就好,还有“下过放,对中国政府刻骨仇恨”,不要忘了。
 
He was treating me like a criminal

Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:16:37 PST
From: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/city/990310/2357119.html

Zheng Anderson, an Ottawa lawyer, tells story about being
manhandled by a "racist" U.S. immigration agent while waiting
for a flight at Detroit International Airport.

Zheng Anderson
Citizen Special

I was exhausted from the 13-hour flight from Beijing
and time was running out for me to catch my connecting
flight at Detroit International Airport. The line-ups at the
immigration counter were incredibly long. It was March
7. Northwest 088 was scheduled to depart at noon
and it was now after 11 a.m.

I kept looking at my watch. I was the 12th person in line but
it wasn't moving. I was getting more and more worried.
There were so many people in line. It was taking a long time
for them to be processed because they were mostly
Chinese visitors who didn't understand English.

I thought I was going to miss my flight back to Ottawa so I
turned to the authorities for help. A few feet away I spotted
a U.S. immigration officer who was patrolling the floor. I
told him the line was rather slow.

That is when my nightmare began. It was horrible.

He said: "So what." I was really surprised that he spoke like
that because he was a representative of the U.S. government.

I remained calm. His shoulders came forward and he was right in
my face, shouting: "What do you want me to do?" I couldn't
understand what was going on. I couldn't believe it. I asked
him if they could open another line. He said: "With what?"

I was turning to this person for help and now he was treating me
like a criminal.

He came at me with such speed and power. He grabbed my passport
and my flight tickets and dragged me out of line.

He broke my thumb and it was covered in blood. I started screaming.
I had to yell to get help. He told me I could be arrested if I
kept it up. I asked him on what grounds. He said for "a crime"
and for arguing with him.

He kept threatening me and said I could be detained for the rest
of the day. I kept telling him I was a Canadian citizen and had
a connecting flight to catch but he kept dragging me.

I'm 5-foot 10 and used to be a professional basketball player in
Beijing. I don't cry very easily but I was shaking.

I was so scared.

He probably never expected someone with a Chinese face to speak
back to him. He was probably so used to treating people that way
because the Chinese are known for reacting with modesty and a
smile.

He dragged me to a room and told me to stay put. I asked if I could
speak to the supervisor. He said he was the supervisor. I thought he
was going to hit me. He pointed to the corner and told me to take a
seat.

Everything was happening so fast. I was just trying to gather all
of the information in my brain.

Another officer came over and said he would handle everything. He
said he was going to check it out. I asked to see his name tag
because he had my passport.

I paced the room for about 10 minutes. I considered this an illegal
detainment and prepared myself that they would do something worse to
me. I didn't know how long I'd be there because they told me nothing.

I was thinking about my daughter the whole time. She has Chinese
features and I figured that if I didn't fight back she will suffer
in the future. I had never felt racism before.

He came back into the room and asked me to follow him. He led me to
the back of the longest line at the immigration counter, handed over
my papers, and told me not to make any trouble.

It was as if they were trying to teach me a lesson.

The other officer was standing by a pay phone keeping an eye on me.
I stood in line but it wasn't moving so I stepped out. I didn't want
to give them an excuse to arrest me so I just stood there. I thought
I'd definitely miss my flight.

Moments later, the other officer waved me over to an empty counter,
glanced at my papers and said I could go through. I showed him my
left thumb and told him that his colleague had broken it. He used
the public address system and called for his supervisor.

He took me back to the same room where I had been detained. The
supervisor came out and I told him he broke my finger. He denied it,
turned his back to me and walked away. They gave me back my ticket
and passport and the supervisor said: "Sue me."

I told them I was a lawyer and it wouldn't be hard to do. I walked
away to find gate G-10. I was so angry and I had to phone my husband.
I telephoned him collect and told him to contact (Foreign) Affairs.

The tears were running down my face. I couldn't believe that such a
thing happened to me.

My plane ended up being delayed until 1:15 p.m., so I caught it.

I have lived in Canada for 14 years and have been a citizen for the
past nine. I have treated Canada as my home.

Maybe what happened to me is a sign that despite all the hard work I
have done to contribute to my community and my country, that I am
still regarded as Chinese and that this treatment can come at any
time.

I want everyone to know about this story so they can watch out and be
warned about this bad dog at the door.

It was traumatic. I couldn't sleep for two nights. What gives him
the right to treat me like that?

I would have never been treated like that if I had a white face.

It would be very easy not to fight back and just forget about what
happened but I can't. I was assaulted physically and mentally.

This story must be told so that this doesn't happen to someone else.

(Zheng Anderson has since filed a detailed complaint with Foreign
Affairs and is calling on U.S. authorities to investigate the incident.
She is also demanding an apology.)

Copyright 1999 Ottawa Citizen
 
Re: He was treating me like a criminal

最初由 迷迭香 发布

......

Maybe what happened to me is a sign that despite all the hard work I
have done to contribute to my community and my country, that I am
still regarded as Chinese and that this treatment can come at any
time.

......


这就是为什么上一代愤青们骂王政律师为XX.

Thanks, 迷迭香

我感兴趣的是这个自称是王政律师的Bridge网民,到底是不是王政律师。
 
Looks to me Zheng Anderson is 王政, am I right? but Anderson = 王 or Zheng = 王? Confused. Sorry, I am new in this town.
 
老V的本意到底是什么,俺也小人一把,顺着V的话翻了一下BRIDGE的帖子(估计他也不是像他自己所说的“粗看了一下”:) ),俺也就对老V为什么要这样做明白个八九不离十了。再打个比方,如果俺看谁不顺眼,就说这人是个XX又干了什么坏事兜里的钱不干净,那么该人是否就要把自己的肚子拉开心肝肺肠的让人看个清楚?这种指控的方式俺们也看了不少。

老V的做法是什么,先暗示BRIDGE是个不成熟的人(为什么他这样说BRIDGE,翻翻帖子就知道原因是论敌的关系),如果BRIDGE是王,这就已然在生活中打击了对方,如果不是,俨然V就成了真理的发现者。王政这次要为自己洗清不成熟的罪名可不容易了,V暗王明。如果BRIDGE是王,她要反驳V就必须先和V讨论成熟的标准或者干脆就在政见上从了V,当然这种猴年马月的帐怎么个翻法V的心里是有数的。从这一点看,V是个很成熟的人,如果成熟的定义是。。。。。。

俺也宁可真诚的相信V是为在GENTLEBOY的事操心。如果真的是这样,直接问就可以了,何必怀疑来怀疑去,让俺误解他的真心。

感谢楼上迷迭香的转文,让俺知道了当年的事情经过,也不至于对她当年说的话断章取意,随意裁剪。

就事论事,年龄是不是“别人生活中的私事”?
 
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