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朱令到底是好女孩还是坏女孩，人缘好不好，讨不讨人喜欢
外人也不好说，可不管怎么样她一没杀人二没放火，遭这样的毒手，现在不光是为朱令，更是为凶手逍遥在外，这同时也是对社会良心的一个体验
外人也不好说，可不管怎么样她一没杀人二没放火，遭这样的毒手，现在不光是为朱令，更是为凶手逍遥在外，这同时也是对社会良心的一个体验
Youtube视频：谁毒害了朱令？Who Poisoned Zhu Ling?
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谢资深爱地给的链接：
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-965382
[ZT] Education For Life – a tragedy, not a story
21 years ago, in September 1992, Zhu Ling, a vivacious Beijing girl, started her college life in Tsinghua university, arguably the best University in China. Two and half years later, on April 28 1995, the girl was confirmed a victim of Thallium poisoning, lying in ICU ward unconsciously after suffering excruciating pains. She was the subject of a murder case. The date happens to be the official anniversary of Tsinghua university, an important day for all alumni to thank the institution for their education.
18 years have gone by and Zhu Ling is still alive, only barely. She became paralyzed completely with permanent nerve and digestive system damages. She is now a 40 years old blind woman with IQ equivalent to a 7 years’ old, her good looks, memories and talents are all gone. For more of Zhu Ling’s current situation, check out this YouTube video made by volunteers (http://youtu.be/nJEdupyI97c). Her parents have been fighting against all odds, hanging on the only hope that one day, the murderer will be brought to justice.
And it has turned out to be a group of murderers most likely. The email hacking of the primary suspect in year 2006 has provided an essential twist, in which she-who-cannot-be-named led the conversation with a group of girls, most of them shared the dorm with Zhu Ling back then. The conversation was about how to divert the public attention without leaving any evidence for Zhu Ling’s friends and family, in case some day they will have to face court. The girls exchanged action plans and even jokes, as if they were working on a final year project.
The primary suspect had the motive, the reach to the deadly chemical, the chance to drop the doze - for twice as confirmed by technical analyses, she was suspiciously involved in the theft of Zhu Ling’s personal belongings, and was summoned for police questioning in year 1997. The case against this primary suspect had been however mystically closed due to undisclosed reasons, while it is public knowledge that she came from a prestigious and powerful family, with strong political connections reaching to the members of politburo.
Year 2013, it was time again for Tsinghua-ers to celebrate the institution's glory and achievements, little wonder that there is no place for Zhu Ling. Netizens however, has launched a frenzy propaganda: “the human flesh search”, to locate the group of suspects who have unveiled themselves in the hacked emails. Surprisingly Zhu was hated by this group for making the following unforgivable mistakes: returning dorm too late, making too much noise, and consuming hot water from other's thermal flasks. The group had arguably then came to the decision of adding a special ingredient into Zhu's education, Thallium.
For myself and many others about the same age of Zhu Ling, the cruelty of her fate is many folded: that young (and supposedly intelligent) girls could take other's life so lightly, that they have refused to repine, that people involved - and there are quite a number of them - have all been muted by the “system”, that the omnipotent “system” has been backing up the accused murderers as if they were a group of heroes.
“Thank you all for not killing me” has since become the social norm to greet our ex-classmates over social media across mainland China. Unlike Zhu Ling, we have survived the education system. Together with her, we are calling for the re-opening of investigation, the date of judgment, the final truth. Until that day comes, never ever forget Zhu Ling.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-965382
[ZT] Education For Life – a tragedy, not a story
21 years ago, in September 1992, Zhu Ling, a vivacious Beijing girl, started her college life in Tsinghua university, arguably the best University in China. Two and half years later, on April 28 1995, the girl was confirmed a victim of Thallium poisoning, lying in ICU ward unconsciously after suffering excruciating pains. She was the subject of a murder case. The date happens to be the official anniversary of Tsinghua university, an important day for all alumni to thank the institution for their education.
18 years have gone by and Zhu Ling is still alive, only barely. She became paralyzed completely with permanent nerve and digestive system damages. She is now a 40 years old blind woman with IQ equivalent to a 7 years’ old, her good looks, memories and talents are all gone. For more of Zhu Ling’s current situation, check out this YouTube video made by volunteers (http://youtu.be/nJEdupyI97c). Her parents have been fighting against all odds, hanging on the only hope that one day, the murderer will be brought to justice.
And it has turned out to be a group of murderers most likely. The email hacking of the primary suspect in year 2006 has provided an essential twist, in which she-who-cannot-be-named led the conversation with a group of girls, most of them shared the dorm with Zhu Ling back then. The conversation was about how to divert the public attention without leaving any evidence for Zhu Ling’s friends and family, in case some day they will have to face court. The girls exchanged action plans and even jokes, as if they were working on a final year project.
The primary suspect had the motive, the reach to the deadly chemical, the chance to drop the doze - for twice as confirmed by technical analyses, she was suspiciously involved in the theft of Zhu Ling’s personal belongings, and was summoned for police questioning in year 1997. The case against this primary suspect had been however mystically closed due to undisclosed reasons, while it is public knowledge that she came from a prestigious and powerful family, with strong political connections reaching to the members of politburo.
Year 2013, it was time again for Tsinghua-ers to celebrate the institution's glory and achievements, little wonder that there is no place for Zhu Ling. Netizens however, has launched a frenzy propaganda: “the human flesh search”, to locate the group of suspects who have unveiled themselves in the hacked emails. Surprisingly Zhu was hated by this group for making the following unforgivable mistakes: returning dorm too late, making too much noise, and consuming hot water from other's thermal flasks. The group had arguably then came to the decision of adding a special ingredient into Zhu's education, Thallium.
For myself and many others about the same age of Zhu Ling, the cruelty of her fate is many folded: that young (and supposedly intelligent) girls could take other's life so lightly, that they have refused to repine, that people involved - and there are quite a number of them - have all been muted by the “system”, that the omnipotent “system” has been backing up the accused murderers as if they were a group of heroes.
“Thank you all for not killing me” has since become the social norm to greet our ex-classmates over social media across mainland China. Unlike Zhu Ling, we have survived the education system. Together with her, we are calling for the re-opening of investigation, the date of judgment, the final truth. Until that day comes, never ever forget Zhu Ling.
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FYI - http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_9745048a01019hhe.html
FYI - http://www.weibo.com/1837948162/zu8R6p1OO
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有人说王琪是凶手，麻烦资深给看看面相，确定是不是。
======
在朱令案网络追凶过程中，有一个人的表现最为奇特。 她就是王琪。因为她不在注意
的中心，大家很久没有关注她。只是把她作为一个边缘人士，予以施压，希望她能出来
举证孙维。可是，她真的只是一个边缘人士么？下面我列出几个疑点：
（1）2006年，孙维联络好友试图自证清白。王琪也在通讯之中。但是和其他几个好友
不同的是，她一直没有出力帮助孙维。
（2）( 经dearbornp指出疑似为假消息 ) 王琪用一个新马甲出来通知大家：有一次警
察搜索宿舍，金牙不在场，而且她事后没有告诉金牙。金牙之前曾经力证“箱子里搜出
咖啡杯”一事为假。那么根据王琪的新证词，金牙从前的证词实效。孙维更加接近漩涡
中心。
（3）王琪的老公是潘锋。这个人曾经喜欢朱令。大家一直认为，是朱令出事以后王，
潘交好。那么之前呢？
（4）同学在实验室串门是家常便饭。知道，或者获取好友实验室的药品，丝毫不难。
dearbornp列举其他疑点：
1 物化2有同学发言认为他觉得王琪比孙维更可疑。
2 王琪对张磊说朱令卖表。
3 王琪报失窃案。
4 据网上透露，王琪当年向朱家暗示孙维可疑。
5 王琪给童宇峰的有关面包电话问题的信，我始终读不明白。
6 有人在网上说，王琪爸爸的同事也曾经铊中毒。经查，王琪来自陕西宝鸡七一中学。
flyy列举其他可能动机：
还有朱令当同学面说王琪很蠢，他们几个同学都有提过的。
ncatlab列举疑点：
王琪发了那篇充满恨意的朱令父母知道真相了吗
王琪试图诬陷完全置身事外的徐冉
综上所述，可以产生一个新的假设：情杀，嫁祸。
王琪因为感情，试图除掉朱令。为了不被发现，最好的办法就是有个替罪羊。别人不能
“合法”获取的招牌毒药“铊”，就是最好的工具。而那个“合法”接触铊的人，又是
朱令的舍友，就是最好的羊。
下面我来说说为什么我认为这个新假设比孙维作案的假设更可能是真的。
假如孙维作案，有几个疑点不能避开。
（1） 她为什么使用招牌毒药？直接把证据链引向自己？
（2）她处理咖啡杯的手法。放在自己箱子里等警察抓？她有足够的时间把咖啡杯扔在
谁也找不到的地方。
（3）动机是什么？纯嫉妒说很难服众。
（4）本来嫌犯避开公众关注是最好的办法。她为什么屡屡出来试图洗白？
而如果我们把聚焦点放在王琪身上，上面几个疑点就不攻自破了。情杀，嫁祸。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/39585353.html
======
在朱令案网络追凶过程中，有一个人的表现最为奇特。 她就是王琪。因为她不在注意
的中心，大家很久没有关注她。只是把她作为一个边缘人士，予以施压，希望她能出来
举证孙维。可是，她真的只是一个边缘人士么？下面我列出几个疑点：
（1）2006年，孙维联络好友试图自证清白。王琪也在通讯之中。但是和其他几个好友
不同的是，她一直没有出力帮助孙维。
（2）( 经dearbornp指出疑似为假消息 ) 王琪用一个新马甲出来通知大家：有一次警
察搜索宿舍，金牙不在场，而且她事后没有告诉金牙。金牙之前曾经力证“箱子里搜出
咖啡杯”一事为假。那么根据王琪的新证词，金牙从前的证词实效。孙维更加接近漩涡
中心。
（3）王琪的老公是潘锋。这个人曾经喜欢朱令。大家一直认为，是朱令出事以后王，
潘交好。那么之前呢？
（4）同学在实验室串门是家常便饭。知道，或者获取好友实验室的药品，丝毫不难。
dearbornp列举其他疑点：
1 物化2有同学发言认为他觉得王琪比孙维更可疑。
2 王琪对张磊说朱令卖表。
3 王琪报失窃案。
4 据网上透露，王琪当年向朱家暗示孙维可疑。
5 王琪给童宇峰的有关面包电话问题的信，我始终读不明白。
6 有人在网上说，王琪爸爸的同事也曾经铊中毒。经查，王琪来自陕西宝鸡七一中学。
flyy列举其他可能动机：
还有朱令当同学面说王琪很蠢，他们几个同学都有提过的。
ncatlab列举疑点：
王琪发了那篇充满恨意的朱令父母知道真相了吗
王琪试图诬陷完全置身事外的徐冉
综上所述，可以产生一个新的假设：情杀，嫁祸。
王琪因为感情，试图除掉朱令。为了不被发现，最好的办法就是有个替罪羊。别人不能
“合法”获取的招牌毒药“铊”，就是最好的工具。而那个“合法”接触铊的人，又是
朱令的舍友，就是最好的羊。
下面我来说说为什么我认为这个新假设比孙维作案的假设更可能是真的。
假如孙维作案，有几个疑点不能避开。
（1） 她为什么使用招牌毒药？直接把证据链引向自己？
（2）她处理咖啡杯的手法。放在自己箱子里等警察抓？她有足够的时间把咖啡杯扔在
谁也找不到的地方。
（3）动机是什么？纯嫉妒说很难服众。
（4）本来嫌犯避开公众关注是最好的办法。她为什么屡屡出来试图洗白？
而如果我们把聚焦点放在王琪身上，上面几个疑点就不攻自破了。情杀，嫁祸。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/39585353.html
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还有人说其实真凶就是贝志城
麻烦资深给看看面相，确定是不是。
==========
可不可能事实真相其实是这样的。
由于某种未知的原因，或许是个人情感，或许是高层内部的政治斗争，做为高干子弟的
贝想要拔除孙维这个眼中钉，将她于置于死地。因为贝知道朱令的舍友里只有孙在实验
中能够接触铊，于是想出一个办法，故意找来铊，在朱令生日当天对她下了毒，目标就
是要陷害孙维。这是第一次下毒。
然而出乎贝意料的是中国医生的无能，朱在第一次中毒后竟然未能被诊断出病因。于是
不得已加大剂量再一次下手，迫使朱家前往更高级的医院求医，此为第二次下毒。这就
合理的解释了凶手为什么一定要二次下毒，而且还加大了剂量。贝本以为朱令既然前往
协和，自然很快会得到正确的救治，警方也就立刻会对孙维展看调查。谁知道，堂堂一
个协和医院，竟也是废物一个，拖延两个月，依然不能做出正确的诊断，这实在是让贝
志成出离愤怒了。眼看朱令就要莫名其妙的枉死医院，而自己的计划却要落空，万不得
已之下，贝只好亲自出马，及时的出现在协和医院，忽然来看望这位老朋友，并想到了
在互联网上问医的计策，终于把协和引导到了铊中毒的正确结论上来。
为了确保计划成功，贝又随后制造了寝室窃案，既消除和自己有关的物证，也试图进一
步将警方的侦查注意力集中到朱令室友们的身上。因为他深知孙维是唯一能够合法接触
铊的学生，认为一切从此将会朝他计划的方向发展。
然而，再一次让他大跌眼镜的是中国警方的办案能力，这样的惊天大案，查了半天，竟
然以证据不足的理由不了了之，使得他的计策又一次落空。于是，百般无奈的贝只能重
上互联网，在风波已渐趋平静之后，在网上重提此事，开始撕破伪装，直接把矛头指向
孙维，从此开始借助网络的力量去打击孙维，同时也希望警方在压力之下将孙绳之以法。
贝志成的计划本来不可谓不高明，不过他的机关巧妙却敌不过协和和警方的愚蠢无能，
乃至于至今计不得筹，也真是人算不如天算啊。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/39571741.html
麻烦资深给看看面相，确定是不是。
==========
可不可能事实真相其实是这样的。
由于某种未知的原因，或许是个人情感，或许是高层内部的政治斗争，做为高干子弟的
贝想要拔除孙维这个眼中钉，将她于置于死地。因为贝知道朱令的舍友里只有孙在实验
中能够接触铊，于是想出一个办法，故意找来铊，在朱令生日当天对她下了毒，目标就
是要陷害孙维。这是第一次下毒。
然而出乎贝意料的是中国医生的无能，朱在第一次中毒后竟然未能被诊断出病因。于是
不得已加大剂量再一次下手，迫使朱家前往更高级的医院求医，此为第二次下毒。这就
合理的解释了凶手为什么一定要二次下毒，而且还加大了剂量。贝本以为朱令既然前往
协和，自然很快会得到正确的救治，警方也就立刻会对孙维展看调查。谁知道，堂堂一
个协和医院，竟也是废物一个，拖延两个月，依然不能做出正确的诊断，这实在是让贝
志成出离愤怒了。眼看朱令就要莫名其妙的枉死医院，而自己的计划却要落空，万不得
已之下，贝只好亲自出马，及时的出现在协和医院，忽然来看望这位老朋友，并想到了
在互联网上问医的计策，终于把协和引导到了铊中毒的正确结论上来。
为了确保计划成功，贝又随后制造了寝室窃案，既消除和自己有关的物证，也试图进一
步将警方的侦查注意力集中到朱令室友们的身上。因为他深知孙维是唯一能够合法接触
铊的学生，认为一切从此将会朝他计划的方向发展。
然而，再一次让他大跌眼镜的是中国警方的办案能力，这样的惊天大案，查了半天，竟
然以证据不足的理由不了了之，使得他的计策又一次落空。于是，百般无奈的贝只能重
上互联网，在风波已渐趋平静之后，在网上重提此事，开始撕破伪装，直接把矛头指向
孙维，从此开始借助网络的力量去打击孙维，同时也希望警方在压力之下将孙绳之以法。
贝志成的计划本来不可谓不高明，不过他的机关巧妙却敌不过协和和警方的愚蠢无能，
乃至于至今计不得筹，也真是人算不如天算啊。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/39571741.html
