耶稣教徒欺骗成性

[familyman]

令尊知道了以后有没有对你采取什么行动？

 

[familyman]

还是令尊深明大义，跟您一起指责你爷爷spread lies?

 

[ForwardRetreat]

你小时候指着你爷爷的鼻子叫他是liar时，你爸爸知道吗？

so you are comparing your holy bible with "the monkey king". lol. the only difference is that the monkey king is high quality fair tale that everyone knows it is a fairy tale, whereas the bible is a low quality fairy tale that you people try to make it real.
i see that you started to lose your cool by using foul language, well that happens when your faith is being challenged, how dare that someone doesn't believe in your god? right? LOL

 

[CatLostHerFish]

god delusion翻成中文神马意思？ 是不是你们家人都欺骗成性？如果不是，那跟这儿讨论的有关系吗？没有的话请不要歪楼，想灌水去别处吧

里面有专门说到道德和宗教的关系。因为在西方，基督教徒普遍认为无神论者着没有道德，这本书是驳这种看法的。
如果说CFC这些人只是动动嘴皮子说基督教，你就看不管。那，我记得我看过，在美国有些地方，无神论者都不能当法庭证人，或者当政府官员，因为他们被人为没有道德，你怎么看？

 

[familyman]

里面有专门说到道德和宗教的关系。因为在西方，基督教徒普遍认为无神论者着没有道德，这本书是驳这种看法的。
如果说CFC这些人只是动动嘴皮子说基督教，你就看不管。那，我记得我看过，在美国有些地方，无神论者都不能当法庭证人，或者当政府官员，因为他们被人为没有道德，你怎么看？

那是美国，我不美国人，人家的法律有人家的道理，你出门儿找个美国人问问。他应该比我明白

 

[rosehip]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26044852

 

[familyman]

so you are comparing your holy bible with "the monkey king". lol. the only difference is that the monkey king is high quality fair tale that everyone knows it is a fairy tale, whereas the bible is a low quality fairy tale that you people try to make it real.
i see that you started to lose your cool by using foul language, well that happens when your faith is being challenged, how dare that someone doesn't believe in your god? right? LOL

原来你承认你指着鼻子叫你亲爷爷是liar，为什么啊？就因为他给你讲了段儿西天取经？ 不至于吧？ 那是神话来的好嘛？ 赶快回家去与他老人家赔礼道歉吧，咱中国人讲究孝道，就算你跟你家爷爷观点不同，也不至于叫他是liar吧？

 

[familyman]

前几天电视上正演封神榜，您可千万别看，电视这东西听不懂你骂它是liar

 

[CatLostHerFish]

那是美国，我不美国人，人家的法律有人家的道理，你出门儿找个美国人问问。他应该比我明白

你总是故意让人去做人做不到的事来支持自己的观点，收到。
我认为，宗教又不分国界，道德也不分国界。
下面是wiki上这本书关于宗教和道德关系的摘要：

Religion and morality[edit]
The second half of the book begins by exploring the roots of religion and seeking an explanation for its ubiquity across human cultures. Dawkins advocates the "theory of religion as an accidental by-product – a misfiring of something useful"[21] as for example the mind's employment of intentional stance. Dawkins suggests that the theory of memes, and human susceptibility to religious memes in particular, can explain how religions might spread like "mind viruses" across societies.[22]
He then turns to the subject of morality, maintaining that we do not need religion to be good. Instead, our morality has a Darwinian explanation: altruistic genes, selected through the process of evolution, give people natural empathy. He asks, "would you commit murder, rape or robbery if you knew that no God existed?" He argues that very few people would answer "yes", undermining the claim that religion is needed to make us behave morally. In support of this view, he surveys the history of morality, arguing that there is a moral Zeitgeist that continually evolves in society, generally progressing toward liberalism. As it progresses, this moral consensus influences how religious leaders interpret their holy writings. Thus, Dawkins states, morality does not originate from the Bible, rather our moral progress informs what part of the Bible Christians accept and what they now dismiss.[23]
The God Delusion is not just a defence of atheism, but also goes on the offensive against religion. Dawkins sees religion as subverting science, fostering fanaticism, encouraging bigotry against homosexuals, and influencing society in other negative ways.[24] He is most outraged about the teaching of religion in schools, which he considers to be an indoctrination process. He equates the religious teaching of children by parents and teachers in faith schools to a form of mental abuse. Dawkins considers the labels "Muslim child" or a "Catholic child" equally misapplied as the descriptions "Marxist child" or a "Tory child", as he wonders how a young child can be considered developed enough to have such independent views on the cosmos and humanity's place within it.

 

[CatLostHerFish]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26044852

这个是梵蒂冈的是，我不是梵蒂冈人，人家的机构自有人家的道理，你出门儿找个梵蒂冈人问问。他应该比我明白

 

[familyman]

你总是故意让人去做人做不到的事来支持自己的观点，收到。

你镇么做不到？ 美国人在加拿大多的是，上大街挨个儿问，不出10分钟包你找着几个。

 

[familyman]

这个是梵蒂冈的是，我不是梵蒂冈人，人家的机构自有人家的道理，你出门儿找个梵蒂冈人问问。他应该比我明白

我的话你引用的错了，人那个贴是新闻贴，没问你为什么，你看过知道就行了。以后该怎么回帖我慢慢教你啊，别着急

 

[CatLostHerFish]

我的话你引用的错了，人那个贴是新闻贴，没问你为什么，你看过知道就行了。以后该怎么回帖我慢慢教你啊，别着急

Oh, 我只是觉得familyman体很有意思，忍不住学了一把。那帖也跟道德有关，你怎么不说说人去？

 

[familyman]

Oh, 我只是觉得familyman体很有意思，忍不住学了一把。那帖也跟道德有关，你怎么不说说人去？

洋文太多看不懂，麻烦您帮我翻译过来，我看清楚了再来跟您讨论

 

[CatLostHerFish]

你镇么做不到？ 美国人在加拿大多的是，上大街挨个儿问，不出10分钟包你找着几个。

这种事，我真干不出来，你有潜质，不然你去问。