香港"占中",现在是什么情况?港警两个半小时完成铜锣湾清场 结束79天占领

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Defiant Hong Kong demonstrators face threat of police crackdown


Tania Branigan in Hong Kong
The Observer, Sunday 5 October 2014

Chief executive Leung Chun-ying warns protesters after clashes that entrances to ministries must be clear and roads unblocked

Pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong must be cleared by Monday morning, its chief executive has announced.

Hours after he spoke, however, tens of thousands of people flooded into the Admiralty area of the city centre in the biggest gathering for days. The rally was called to oppose attacks on protesters by opponents of the movement on Friday, and came six days after police used pepper spray and teargas in failed attempts to disperse the crowds.

“Even after all these incidents, it shows that the more they suppress us, the more we will fight,” the student leader, Joshua Wong, told the gathering. The crowd chanted for democracy and roared the unofficial anthem of the movement by the band Beyond.

Many also voiced concern about what would come next. Hong Kong’s chief executive, Leung Chun-ying, who has refused demands for him to step down, said in a televised address it was urgent that all entrances to government headquarters were clear by Monday so that staff could work and roads unblocked so that schools could reopen.

He said if the conflict between pro-democracy and anti-Occupy Central groups continued, it would be “very likely to keep getting out of hand” and urged citizens to keep calm. He added that the Occupy movement had seriously affected people’s lives, incomes and public services.

The former Democratic party legislator, Law Chi-kwong, urged the public not to go to Admiralty and warned that if they did they should be prepared for attempts to disperse them. He told the South China Morning Post the government might act “no later than tomorrow, or even earlier”.

The heads of universities committee issued an appeal to students to leave all Occupy rallying areas and put safety first, but many said the violence had motivated them to attend.

“It’s so outrageous about the teargas first and then the violence in Mong Kok … We believe if we don’t come out we will not be able to voice our opinions as freely,” said Keith Wong, 45.

Yanki Wong, an NGO worker in her 30s, said people needed the rally to raise their spirits so they could carry on the movement, but that she feared numbers would soon dwindle because people would need to return to work after the weekend. Asked what she thought lay ahead, she said: “I don’t want to think about it because I don’t want to be frightened. I just want to go on step by step.”

Earlier, the secretary for security, Lai Tung-kwok, angrily denied accusations that the government had ignored or even condoned violent attacks on pro-democracy protesters on Friday night. Police confirmed, however, that of 19 men arrested during clashes in Causeway Bay and Mong Kok, two of the city’s busiest shopping districts, eight had triad backgrounds. They were detained for illegal assembly.

Protest leaders called off talks with the government after the attacks on Friday night, complaining that police had stood by as men trying to remove protesters hit, punched and sexually assaulted them. More than 50 people were injured, officials said.

Thin police lines tried to hold back men set on taking swipes at other demonstrators. Officers said reinforcements had been unable to reach Mong Kok sooner because of barricades the protesters had erected.

Public broadcaster RTHK reported security secretary Lai as saying: “I am aware that people have said the government has turned a blind eye towards the triads, or even was co-operating with triads. These accusations are invented and very excessive.” He added that the police had “faithfully, truthfully” enforced the law.

The Hong Kong Federation of Students has claimed that the government and police “connived” in the assaults on the protesters – allegations also made by Occupy Central founders and pan-democratic legislators. James To, deputy chairman of the legislative council’s security panel, said the government “used organised, orchestrated forces and even triad gangs in [an] attempt to disperse citizens”, according to the South China Morning Post.

Hundreds more protesters gathered in Mong Kok on Saturday afternoon, saying they had come because they feared further attacks on the site. A smaller group of counter-protesters formed in the same area and there were heated exchanges.

Both the pro-democracy protesters and those who are opposing them have claimed that the other side was being paid to take to the streets.

Police officers, who were present in higher numbers than on the previous day, tied a man’s hands and escorted him away after he was chased and surrounded by protesters claiming he had hit one of them without provocation.

One man in his 50s, who asked that his name not be used because he is a civil servant, said he was there to back the students. “They have to face the government, the police, closed-minded people who are against the protests and those who are paid to do violence just to threaten them and drive them from the streets,” he said. “I was in Causeway Bay yesterday and I saw the hooligans who were relentlessly using force, spilling other people’s blood.

“You can arrest people for illegal assembly. No problem. They are prepared to face the legal consequences. You can’t ask people to use violence against them. You see the students using only their bodies to keep away violence: they have no weapons. They are just raising their hands.”

The mass movement was sparked by Beijing’s plans to maintain tight control over the election of the next chief executive in 2017. The government says the introduction of universal suffrage is a step forward, but protesters complain they have been cheated and are being given only “fake” democracy because Beijing will determine the nominations.

Student demonstrators and supporters of a broader civil disobedience campaign gained wider support after police used teargas and pepper spray in failed attempts to disperse them last weekend. Others in the city have complained about the inconvenience the protesters have caused. Many Mong Kok residentsc riticised the disruption caused to their lives by the occupation of a busy crossroads.

But a demonstrator, Lavine Ho, a 26-year-old hospital worker, said: “People should understand what students are fighting for: for our future and democracy. That affects all of us.”

Cheung Tak-keung, Hong Kong’s assistant police commissioner, said his forces might yet arrest more people over Friday’s violence. The priority had been to separate the opposing groups, the South China Morning Post reported him as saying.

Student leaders have said the government must provide a fuller explanation of what happened in Mong Kok before they will reconsider talks with the chief secretary, Carrie Lam.
 
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占中联盟内部分裂:泛民派撤离,但学生团体拒撤
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法新社香港消息,香港亲民主派示威者周日晚上在政府“最后通牒”期限临近之际,宣布撤离部分占领地点,但同时表示会保持对特区政府的压力。路透社也发出同样的消息。但香港电台网站说,在商业区旺角和特首办外龙和道仍有占领者不愿撤离。
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法新社说,香港政府最后通牒即将到期,占中行动主要联盟“Occupy Central”周日晚上在推特上宣布,一周来,占领香港旺角商业区的示威者将与政府所在地金钟的示威者会合。这个推特还表示,示威者会让出金钟区的主要街道。

路透社今晚发自香港消息也说,香港亲民主派运动领导人呼吁在不同占领区的支持者们集中到中环区。

但另据香港电台网站报道,在旺角的占领现场当有义工宣布撤走后 , 部分留守人士情绪激动,表示会留在旺角。他们大叫”留守旺角“的口号,
表示如果现在撤走, 就永远不能重新占领这个位置, 又说, 如果在旺角有足够人数, 警方就不会清场
。香港立法会议员黄毓民表示,他会留守旺角,并呼吁成年人留下保护学生。

此外,香港特首办外的集会人士决定离开龙和道,将路段交还警方,警方立即拆去路障铁马,但仍有占中人士不愿撤离,继续在龙和道的路口集会。于是,大批警员到场增援,持盾牌及头盔的警员又用索带固定铁马,防止示威者冲击防线。陆续有市民从添马公园方向到场声援 。

香港的学生团体“学民思潮” 于社交网站上澄清说,他们并没有呼吁市民从旺角、铜锣湾 及 特首办撤走并返回金钟。
 
但另据香港电台网站报道,在旺角的占领现场当有义工宣布撤走后 , 部分留守人士情绪激动,表示会留在旺角。他们大叫”留守旺角“的口号,表示如果现在撤走, 就永远不能重新占领这个位置, 又说, 如果在旺角有足够人数, 警方就不会清场。香港立法会议员黄毓民表示,他会留守旺角,并呼吁成年人留下保护学生。

坚持就是胜利?
 
这么长的帖子,楼主赚嗐了!!羡慕。。。:monster:
 
不是说占领中环吗,一下占了这么多地方?比美国牛啊,占华尔街那伙人也没能捎带脚占了笫五大道,时代广场什么的…
 
占中升级 港府拒绝承诺不动武
2014-10-05 11:11:14 苹果日报
  争取香港特首真普选的佔领中环行动,今迈入第9天。由于特首梁振英已强势下达最后通牒,表示要在今天(周一)恢复秩序,否则「采取一切必要行动」。学联与 政府昨晚召开对话筹备委员会,商讨与政务司司林郑月娥的对话细节,但双方未能就对话原则达成共识,港府官员也不愿承诺不动用武力清场。抗议民众会不会撤 离、港府会不会强力清场,已成为天亮之前的注目焦点。
 
Hong Kong deadline day dawns as protesters vow to stay
Government ready to offer dialogue but only if demonstrators clear roads and lift the blockade of official buildings
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Protesters have erected a wooden statue of a man holding aloft a yellow umbrella at the main rallying site in Hong Kong city centre. Photograph: Vincent Yu/AP
The Hong Kong government’s deadline day for pro-democracy protestors to withdraw dawned on Monday with hundreds still sleeping on downtown streets.

Student leaders vowed to continue the occupation after an eleventh hour meeting with officials failed to produce an agreement for talks on the region’s political system. Demonstrators had braced for police attempts to remove them overnight, to end a stand-off that has lasted over a week.

Chief executive Leung Chun-ying announced on Saturday that “all necessary actions” would be taken to ensure protests were removed by Monday morning and order restored. But by 6am, with government staff due to arrive at work in a few hours, demonstrators were still blocking major roads and surrounding official buildings in the Admiralty area. Smaller numbers remained at other sites.

Divisions appeared within the protest movement as the clock ticked. Some decided to withdraw from Mong Kok neighbourhood and the gate outside the chief executive’s office and to remove barriers on Sunday afternoon, but hundreds more promptly arrived to replace them.

In a Sundaylunchtime statement , the government said it was ready to offer dialogue with the Hong Kong Federation of Students on constitutional reform, as previously agreed, but only if demonstrators cleared the roads and lifted the blockade of government facilities.

Leung first offered the talks on Thursday, after several days of occupation, but student leaders called them off after protesters were violently assaulted in Mong Kok on Friday, complaining that police had not protected them.

Andrew Chow, the federation’s secretary general, told the crowd on Sunday night that it had now started preparations for talks with Hong Kong’s chief secretary, Carrie Lam, because police had met their bottom line for the dialogue – the guarantee of protesters’ safety.

“Occupy must go on to give pressure to the government, as it is why they are willing to talk to us in the first place,” he said.

If the police used rubber bullets, however, the protesters would have to disperse, he said. “There’s no way to defend against that.”

Chow said he hoped a timetable for discussions could be reached by Monday, but basic details still had to be agreed.

The federation also apologised to the public for the inconvenience the protests have caused. It earlier offered to open access lanes for government workers.

The government, which closed schools across three districts due to the protests, said that secondary schools would reopen on Monday but not primary schools and kindergartens. Police later said all classes would resume, but warned there could be traffic disruptions.

Overall the mood at Admiralty appeared calm rather than scared or defiant in the runup to the deadline. “Of course we’re worried about teargas and violence,” said Erica Mak, a 21-year-old student. “But we want to stay here because we want them to respect our voices.”

For much of the last week people were not working thanks to a two-day holiday, and even before the government set a deadline for clearance it was widely assumed that protests would ebb this week.

“I’m pretty sure it will be the last night here,” said Ronald Tse, 28, who has attended the protests every night since last Sunday, when the police use of teargas brought thousands more on to the streets.

Raquel Tso, also 28, said she planned to leave in a few hours because she had work the next day, rather than because she expected the forcible clearance of the area.

“I don’t think the government will use force again because it will just arouse the hatred of the citizens,” she said.

The mass movement has been the biggest challenge to Beijing since the former British colony was handed over in 1997, highlighting people’sconcerns that its freedoms and identity are being whittled away.

It has taken on a life of its own, making it harder for the original leaders of the protests to guide it to a conclusion. The student federation, the Scholarism activist group and Occupy Central have acknowledged that participants have their own intentions and aspirations.

“I never planned to get involved in Occupy Central, but I think now it’s not Occupy Central. It’s the umbrella revolution,” said Rigel Lee, an 18-year-old student.

Organisers say it is not a revolution at all, stressing that participants are not calling for independence or the overthrow of the government, but delivery on a promise of universal suffrage. It was sparked by Beijing’s decision to impose tight restrictions on the election of Hong Kong’s next chief executive in 2017.

In a commentary for Radio Free Asia, Bao Tong, the most senior official jailed over his sympathy for the 1989 pro-democracy protests in Tiananmen Square, praised the protesters but told them: “The seeds have already been sown, and they need time to lie fallow … Take a break, for the sake of future room to grow. For tomorrow.”

The vice-chancellor and president of Hong Kong University, Peter Mathieson, urged all students and staff to leave protest areas in an email sent early on Sunday, saying he feared for their safety.

The former chief justice, Andrew Li, also urged students to disperse, saying that their ideals and aspirations for democracy had been fullyunderstood through their peaceful demonstrations, and were respected.

A group of more than 80 scholars from the region’s eight universities wrote in a joint letter that they shared concerns about students’ safety, but that they “would like to stress that the fundamental solution … should lie with concrete action by the authorities to address the people’s demands”.

Chinese state media continued to denounce the protests in a barrage of commentaries and editorials on Sunday. “Hong Kongers’ free will shall not be held hostage to protesters,” Xinhua, the state newswire, said in a headline. The People’s Daily, the Communist party’s newspaper, called for the “resolute safeguarding of Hong Kong’s rule of law”.

Officially sanctioned reports about the protests have become both more abundant and prominently placed since last weekend, when newspapers and television stations simply reiterated a brief Xinhua statement denouncing the protest as an “illegal assembly”.

Steve Tsang, an expert on Chinese politics at the University of Nottingham, said that may signal Beijing’s growing confidence that the unrest will end without delivering any severe blows to party control. “There is not at the moment that much sympathy in China for Hong Kong,” he said.

“So far, we haven’t seen any evidence that Beijing is telling Hong Kong directly how to handle the protests. I think we’ve seen the general idea of what they want, but not specific instructions on how to get it. I don’t think they trust CY Leung. But what are their options? If you were Xi Jinping, would you want to directly control the situation? If things go right, what would he stand to gain that he doesn’t have already? And if things go wrong, this will reflect very badly on him.”
 
香港立法会议员黄毓民表示,他会留守旺角,并呼吁成年人留下保护学生。
这个黄议员20几年前跟着向华强向华胜后面屁颠屁颠的,现在不混社团改玩民主了,我倒....:shale:
 
学生运动,没有一个是真正自发的。
放P!侮辱人!当年我领导同学们抗议校方乱涨食堂饭菜价格,就是真正自发的学生运动!你说说,我幕后黑手是谁??!!
 
放P!侮辱人!当年我领导同学们抗议校方乱涨食堂饭菜价格,就是真正自发的学生运动!你说说,我幕后黑手是谁??!!
大道无形,黑手也可以是无形的。 你大脑里被美帝远程殖入资本主义自由化程序,随时可以遥控
 
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