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This is a recent event if Christians are given a chance.

Suspected Witches Burned Alive by Christians in Kenya
http://thetaleofbittertruth.wordpre...-witches-burned-alive-by-christians-in-kenya/

WARNING
WITCHES BURNED ALIVE IN KENYA, AFRICA **GRAPHIC!** MIGHT CONTAIN CONTENT THAT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR ALL AGES.

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Growing desires for land along Kenya’s Indian Ocean coastline are allegedly causing a rise in ‘witch lynchings’ by residents to intimidate their elderly relatives who own the title deeds of desirable areas.
Sadaka Muruu, 100, who owns 12 acres of sought-after land in coastal Kilifi county, claimed she was told by her grandchildren that they would burn her alive after investors asked about purchasing it.
The frightened grandmother was allegedly dragged naked from her home in January by relatives who had turned up without notice, and told neighbours they had caught her doing witchcraft.
But she was saved at the last minute by local councillor Teddy Mwambire, who drove her away to a rescue centre for elderly men and women accused of witchcraft, reported the Sunday Times.
Others have suffered a much-worse fate, with more than 50 people aged over 60 lynched this year over witchcraft accusations. Seven were killed in Cllr Mwambire’s district in Kilifi alone this summer.
Some were burned to death in front of villagers. Other victims were fatally hit with machetes – such as Thomas Barawa, 79, who died in August just four weeks after his wife suffered the same fate.
Cllr Mwambire led an independent probe into witchcraft and found relatives can arrange a killing for the equivalent of only £30.
Relatives are the top suspects in almost all of the killings. But police are struggling to bring cases to court because they cannot get anybody to give evidence.
Most victims who escape death and end up at guarded rescue centres are too scared to ever return home as they risk death if their angry relatives see them again, reported the Sunday Times.
Many poor communities in the African country rely on spiritual healers, sorcery and black magic.
Three years ago uproar was caused after a video emerged on the internet showing five people burned in the village of Nyamataro, Kisii, in the west of Kenya, over witchcraft allegations.
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Extraordinary images: Three years ago uproar was caused after a video emerged on the internet showing five people burned in the village of Nyamataro, Kisii, in the east of Kenya, over witchcraft allegations

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article-2227693-15D8897C000005DC-802_634x450.jpg

Shocking: Kenyan local councillor Teddy Mwambire has led an independent probe into witchcraft and found relatives can arrange for a killing for the equivalent of only £30
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article-2227693-15D8BD2C000005DC-658_634x426.jpg

Lucrative: Desires for land along Kenya’s Indian Ocean coastline (file picture) are allegedly causing a rise in ‘witch lynchings’ by residents to intimidate their elderly relatives who own the title deeds of desirable sites

Further more BBC reported the witnesses:
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Joseph Ondieki, at the grave of his mother, who was burned as a witch
Villagers, many straight from their farms, and armed with machetes, sticks and axes, are shouting and crowding round in a big group in Kenya’s fertile Kisii district.
I can’t see clearly what is going on, but heavy smoke is rising from the ground and a horrible stench fills the air.
More people are streaming up the hill, some of them with firewood and maize stalks.
Suddenly an old woman breaks from the crowd, screaming for mercy. Three or four people go after her, beat her and drag her back, pushing her onto – what I can now see – is a raging fire.
Burned alive
I was witnessing a horrific practice which appears to be on the increase in Kenya – the lynching of people accused of being witches.
I personally saw the burning alive of five elderly men and women in Itii village.
 
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This is a recent event if Christians are given a chance.

Suspected Witches Burned Alive by Christians in Kenya
http://thetaleofbittertruth.wordpre...-witches-burned-alive-by-christians-in-kenya/

WARNING
WITCHES BURNED ALIVE IN KENYA, AFRICA **GRAPHIC!** MIGHT CONTAIN CONTENT THAT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR ALL AGES.

39147-q.jpg

Growing desires for land along Kenya’s Indian Ocean coastline are allegedly causing a rise in ‘witch lynchings’ by residents to intimidate their elderly relatives who own the title deeds of desirable areas.
Sadaka Muruu, 100, who owns 12 acres of sought-after land in coastal Kilifi county, claimed she was told by her grandchildren that they would burn her alive after investors asked about purchasing it.
The frightened grandmother was allegedly dragged naked from her home in January by relatives who had turned up without notice, and told neighbours they had caught her doing witchcraft.
But she was saved at the last minute by local councillor Teddy Mwambire, who drove her away to a rescue centre for elderly men and women accused of witchcraft, reported the Sunday Times.
Others have suffered a much-worse fate, with more than 50 people aged over 60 lynched this year over witchcraft accusations. Seven were killed in Cllr Mwambire’s district in Kilifi alone this summer.
Some were burned to death in front of villagers. Other victims were fatally hit with machetes – such as Thomas Barawa, 79, who died in August just four weeks after his wife suffered the same fate.
Cllr Mwambire led an independent probe into witchcraft and found relatives can arrange a killing for the equivalent of only £30.
Relatives are the top suspects in almost all of the killings. But police are struggling to bring cases to court because they cannot get anybody to give evidence.
Most victims who escape death and end up at guarded rescue centres are too scared to ever return home as they risk death if their angry relatives see them again, reported the Sunday Times.
Many poor communities in the African country rely on spiritual healers, sorcery and black magic.
Three years ago uproar was caused after a video emerged on the internet showing five people burned in the village of Nyamataro, Kisii, in the west of Kenya, over witchcraft allegations.
article-2227693-15D88B4F000005DC-912_634x450.jpg

Extraordinary images: Three years ago uproar was caused after a video emerged on the internet showing five people burned in the village of Nyamataro, Kisii, in the east of Kenya, over witchcraft allegations

,,,
article-2227693-15D8897C000005DC-802_634x450.jpg

Shocking: Kenyan local councillor Teddy Mwambire has led an independent probe into witchcraft and found relatives can arrange for a killing for the equivalent of only £30
,,,,
article-2227693-15D8BD2C000005DC-658_634x426.jpg

Lucrative: Desires for land along Kenya’s Indian Ocean coastline (file picture) are allegedly causing a rise in ‘witch lynchings’ by residents to intimidate their elderly relatives who own the title deeds of desirable sites

Further more BBC reported the witnesses:
_45972143_ondiekigravemother.jpg

Joseph Ondieki, at the grave of his mother, who was burned as a witch
Villagers, many straight from their farms, and armed with machetes, sticks and axes, are shouting and crowding round in a big group in Kenya’s fertile Kisii district.
I can’t see clearly what is going on, but heavy smoke is rising from the ground and a horrible stench fills the air.
More people are streaming up the hill, some of them with firewood and maize stalks.
Suddenly an old woman breaks from the crowd, screaming for mercy. Three or four people go after her, beat her and drag her back, pushing her onto – what I can now see – is a raging fire.
Burned alive
I was witnessing a horrific practice which appears to be on the increase in Kenya – the lynching of people accused of being witches.
I personally saw the burning alive of five elderly men and women in Itii village.


I guess you @ForwardRetreat assume no one except you understand English, right? Well, it does tell how desperate you and your comrades really are. :)

 
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I guess you @ForwardRetreat assume no one except you understand English, right? Well, it does tell how desperate you and your comrades really are. :)


Desperate? I think you misunderstand. I enjoy disposing the hypocrisy and the violence nature of Christianity, the detrimental force of human history, desperate? no. You can have all the denials you could muster on Christian witch hunt but fact won't change.

Here's more about this topic

Christianity And The Witch Hunt Era (1/12)
Introduction
The European witch hunting era is one of the most appalling atrocities in Christian history, and has stigmatised the Christians of the Middle Ages (as well as Christianity generally), as superstitious, irrational, ignorant, and inhumane. But whilst there is no excusing the perpetrators, or those who encouraged the craze, certain facts should be understood which demonstrate that this madness was in fact not characteristic of Christianity, nor even characteristic of Christianity in the Middle Ages and Renaissance, but a strange incongruity in almost 2,000 years of Christian history.
The following charges have been directed at Christianity generally, and the established church specifically:
* That 9 million people were killed as a result of the witch hunts
* That the witch hunts were the product of a deliberate campaign by the established church to suppress an ancient pagan ‘mother goddess’ religion, or (more generally), to suppress women
* That the witch hunts were the result of hysterical anti-heresy efforts carried out by the Inquisition
* That the witch hunt era came to an end as a result of the ‘Age of Reason’, the rise of science, and a declining belief in the supernatural
Such charges are typically found among feminists and those who hold to ‘New Age’ beliefs, including self-styled ‘pagans’, or ‘neo-pagans’. None of these charges are true. In particular, the anti-Christian arguments frequently presented by pagans and neo-pagans are completely without evidence or substance.
An excellent article by self-described pagan Jenny Gibbons (addressed to her fellow pagans), destroys utterly the most common arguments raised. Gibbons notes that the vast majority of feminist and pagan literature on this subject is grossly inaccurate, and completely out of date:

read more on
https://bibleapologetics.wordpress.com/christianity-and-the-witch-hunt-era-17/
 
Just saw this picture - 遠見的必要與代價!, meaningful to me, and perhaps to you too.

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Atheism 101: The Basics
Hello all, and welcome to Atheism 101. Please take your seats. No, that won’t be on the final. May I have your attention please? Thank you.
Today we’ll be discussing some basic principles of atheism, including several definitions and essential principles. I hope you’re all prepared to take notes, because yes, this will be a lecture. However, if at any time you have questions, please don’t hesitate to raise your hand and ask. Good? All right. Let’s begin.
What is atheism?
Let’s start at the very beginning. Atheism is… well, funny you should ask. That’s a rather complicated question. Let’s start with some dictionaries. Dictionary.com defines atheism as “1) the doctrine or belief that there is no God, or 2) disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings”. Merriam-Webster says its “1) a disbelief in the existence of a deity, or 2) the doctrine that there is no deity”. The Oxford English Dictionary, arguably the most definitive English dictionary in existence, says “1) disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a God, and 2) disregard of duty to God, godlessness”.
A bit of difference there, huh? Atheism appears to be anything from the simple disbelief in a deity to the dereliction of duty to God (who, by that definition, is presumed to exist). How are we to know which is the right way of defining the term? Fortunately, as an applied linguist and a bit of a descripivist myself, I see these varied definitions as merely a starting point. What’s more important to me is how the word is used in our society. And that’s something I can speak about.
Atheism is a personal choice. It’s something all children are born with, but only a limited number retain into adulthood. It’s living your life for yourself, without fear of punishment from on high for fabricated transgressions. Atheism is whatever each person makes it, with one commonality: God isn’t part of the equation. Atheism, as it is understood in the community, does not preclude belief in certain unexplainable things. It does not include the idea that God certainly does not exist. It’s just a way of being that doesn’t take God or any other deity into account. One other critical component: atheism almost always includes a preference for reason over faith. By this I mean that most people who ascribe to atheism are convinced by arguments based on reason, and are generally not swayed by arguments based on faith.
An atheist, then, is someone who prescribes to/follows atheism as their system of (non)belief. I’ve read or met atheists who believe in ghosts, ESP, fortune-telling, and other supernatural things. I’ve read or met atheists who are convinced that God does not and could not exist. I myself fall somewhere between these two extremes. But it’s no good just throwing anecdotes around. Let’s put some words to this.
Strong vs. Weak Atheism
What is strong vs. weak atheism? Is it some kind of nonbeliever weightlifting contest? There are a few terms for this same concept: sometimes it’s known as positive vs. negative, or hard vs. soft. The definition remains the same, and as I’ve seen it used, most people prefer strong and weak as their terms of choice. What does it mean? Let me begin with an example (a parable, if you will).
Two young children, aged eight and ten, are having a debate. The ten-year-old is trying to convince her friend that Santa isn’t real. “How could he visit every house in one night?” she asks, making a play at her friend’s common sense. “Maybe he’s magic,” the young boy answers. “But reindeer don’t fly,” she counters, now appealing to basic natural facts. “There could be reindeer that fly we just don’t know about,” the boy replies smartly. “Okay then, why would Santa even do all this? Give presents and work hard and stuff?” she asks. “He has his reasons,” the boy says, “we just don’t know what they are.” The girl scoffs. “I think the whole idea is dumb. There’s no way it could happen.” The boy pauses a moment. “Okay,” he finally concedes, “it’s sort of crazy. But I don’t think it’s impossible. He could be real. We don’t know for sure.” The two children return to their games.
In this example, the girl is the strong atheist, and the boy the weak atheist. Strong atheism is the stance that God isn’t real. The reasons are not necessarily important; what’s important is the assertion that God does not exist. Contrast this with weak atheism, which is the view that although one may not personally believe in God, the possibility isn’t ruled out. In other words, the strong atheist says, “There is no God”, while the weak atheist says, “I don’t believe there is a God, but I may be wrong“. Their commonality is their lack of belief; their difference is whether God could possibly exist or not.
There is considerable disagreement about these ideas in the community, however. To put it basically, no one is quite sure where to draw the lines. Where do those who think the traditional God of the Bible (omnipotent, omniscent, omnipresent, etc.) is impossible but are open to the idea of a Deist God (hands-off, created the Universe and walked away) fall? Are they strong or weak atheists? Similarly, what about those who aren’t sure if it’s even possible to know about God? This brings us nicely to our next section, and one that I think will provide considerable insight even to those familiar with the terms.
Agnostic vs. Atheist
It’s a common conception: an agnostic is someone who isn’t sure if God exists or not, right? And the atheist is someone who’s sure God doesn’t exist? Well, we’ve already added nuance to the latter of those views: there are atheists who are certain or almost certain that God isn’t real (and couldn’t be real), and there are those who say that the possibility is open. Now let’s add some nuance to the former.
In many people’s minds, an agnostic is someone who is unsure if they believe in God or not. They feel that there are good arguments for both sides, and they haven’t made up their minds yet. And again, as a descriptive language educator, I need to acknowledge this common use of the term. But I recently encountered two things that made me reconsider my understanding. First, I heard nonbelief described as a spectrum, rather than a series of static points. Like any sliding scale, this allows for the two extremes (I am sure there is a God vs. I am sure there is not a God), with agnostic sitting right in the middle and most people falling somewhere on either side.
This understanding is becoming more popular in the nonbeliever community. In essence, it allows for (and demands) that all nonbelievers select their own names. If I say I’m an atheist, then I’m an atheist, and no one can tell me I’m not. If I say I’m agnostic, or Bright, or a freethinker, or whatever else, then I’m that, and the argument of “no, that’s not what you really are” is settled. This way of thinking helps prevent arguments of the kind that plague religions worldwide (“You’re not a true Catholic/Episcopalian/Baptist/Methodist/Mormon/etc”).
Second is this image, and the distinction it makes between gnostic and agnostic.

The picture speaks for itself, but show you one more that adds another level of detail.

As you can see, atheist vs. theist and gnostic vs. agnostic are placed on separate axes, allowing for four possible combinations. I don’t want to spend too much time on this because I think it’s a big discussion to have, but I wanted to put it out there and see what others think. Agnostic is not typically used in this manner in my experience, but the concept makes sense and I think it warrants examination. Another time, perhaps. We’re nearly done with our lecture for today. One more topic to cover.
How does someone become an atheist?
Becoming an atheist isn’t nearly as complicated as joining one of the many and varied churches of the world. There’s only one thing you need to do: be born. All babies are born atheist. They are born without any concept of God, awareness of a soul/spirit, or knowledge of any divine presence whatsoever. As I’ve heard it said, there are no Christian/Jewish/Muslim children: there are only the children of Christian/Jewish/Muslim parents. But as we know, a critical piece of every major religion is the unrelenting need to propagate the belief, and thus many or most religions encourage parents to indoctrinate their children with the system. However, not all parents do a very good job at this.
Thus we arrive at the second method: grow up. Children who are not raised in religious households or are raised in homes where religion is a tertiary, minor piece of their lives are most likely going to avoid becoming religious by manner of priorities. Why spend time on something that is not important to you? As everyone who’s been a teenager knows, this view essentially dominates all others for a number of years. Therefore, children who have no particular reason to gravitate toward religion probably won’t, and remain atheists (whether aware of it or not). But what about those kids whose parents are religious, or who meet a fanatical classmate and are whisked away to an evening service or a weekend retreat?
This third level requires special action, because now the person holds a religious belief in God or gods–and as we know, atheism’s only requirement is the lack of such a belief. People at this stage come to atheism in various ways. Perhaps something traumatic happens to them within the context of religion, causing them to disavow their belief in God. Perhaps they meet an atheist and are swayed by the arguments. Perhaps they study philosophy, science, or some other field and begin to question whether their beliefs are true, thus utilizing reason to call their faith into question. Perhaps they simply lose their fervor and drift away, until one day realizing that they no longer believe in what they used to. The means and methods are varied, but the outcome is the same: atheism.
To sum up, people become atheists in one of two ways: either they’re never really introduced to the corrupting influence of religious belief, or they wring themselves free of its grasp. For those in the former category, atheism isn’t exactly a choice; rather, its the default position. For those in the latter category (such as myself), atheism is definitely a choice, one that is made after careful consideration.
 
Atheism 101: The Basics
Hello all, and welcome to Atheism 101. Please take your seats. No, that won’t be on the final. May I have your attention please? Thank you.
Today we’ll be discussing some basic principles of atheism, including several definitions and essential principles. I hope you’re all prepared to take notes, because yes, this will be a lecture. However, if at any time you have questions, please don’t hesitate to raise your hand and ask. Good? All right. Let’s begin.
What is atheism?
Let’s start at the very beginning. Atheism is… well, funny you should ask. That’s a rather complicated question. Let’s start with some dictionaries. Dictionary.com defines atheism as “1) the doctrine or belief that there is no God, or 2) disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings”. Merriam-Webster says its “1) a disbelief in the existence of a deity, or 2) the doctrine that there is no deity”. The Oxford English Dictionary, arguably the most definitive English dictionary in existence, says “1) disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a God, and 2) disregard of duty to God, godlessness”.
A bit of difference there, huh? Atheism appears to be anything from the simple disbelief in a deity to the dereliction of duty to God (who, by that definition, is presumed to exist). How are we to know which is the right way of defining the term? Fortunately, as an applied linguist and a bit of a descripivist myself, I see these varied definitions as merely a starting point. What’s more important to me is how the word is used in our society. And that’s something I can speak about.
Atheism is a personal choice. It’s something all children are born with, but only a limited number retain into adulthood. It’s living your life for yourself, without fear of punishment from on high for fabricated transgressions. Atheism is whatever each person makes it, with one commonality: God isn’t part of the equation. Atheism, as it is understood in the community, does not preclude belief in certain unexplainable things. It does not include the idea that God certainly does not exist. It’s just a way of being that doesn’t take God or any other deity into account. One other critical component: atheism almost always includes a preference for reason over faith. By this I mean that most people who ascribe to atheism are convinced by arguments based on reason, and are generally not swayed by arguments based on faith.
An atheist, then, is someone who prescribes to/follows atheism as their system of (non)belief. I’ve read or met atheists who believe in ghosts, ESP, fortune-telling, and other supernatural things. I’ve read or met atheists who are convinced that God does not and could not exist. I myself fall somewhere between these two extremes. But it’s no good just throwing anecdotes around. Let’s put some words to this.
Strong vs. Weak Atheism
What is strong vs. weak atheism? Is it some kind of nonbeliever weightlifting contest? There are a few terms for this same concept: sometimes it’s known as positive vs. negative, or hard vs. soft. The definition remains the same, and as I’ve seen it used, most people prefer strong and weak as their terms of choice. What does it mean? Let me begin with an example (a parable, if you will).
Two young children, aged eight and ten, are having a debate. The ten-year-old is trying to convince her friend that Santa isn’t real. “How could he visit every house in one night?” she asks, making a play at her friend’s common sense. “Maybe he’s magic,” the young boy answers. “But reindeer don’t fly,” she counters, now appealing to basic natural facts. “There could be reindeer that fly we just don’t know about,” the boy replies smartly. “Okay then, why would Santa even do all this? Give presents and work hard and stuff?” she asks. “He has his reasons,” the boy says, “we just don’t know what they are.” The girl scoffs. “I think the whole idea is dumb. There’s no way it could happen.” The boy pauses a moment. “Okay,” he finally concedes, “it’s sort of crazy. But I don’t think it’s impossible. He could be real. We don’t know for sure.” The two children return to their games.
In this example, the girl is the strong atheist, and the boy the weak atheist. Strong atheism is the stance that God isn’t real. The reasons are not necessarily important; what’s important is the assertion that God does not exist. Contrast this with weak atheism, which is the view that although one may not personally believe in God, the possibility isn’t ruled out. In other words, the strong atheist says, “There is no God”, while the weak atheist says, “I don’t believe there is a God, but I may be wrong“. Their commonality is their lack of belief; their difference is whether God could possibly exist or not.
There is considerable disagreement about these ideas in the community, however. To put it basically, no one is quite sure where to draw the lines. Where do those who think the traditional God of the Bible (omnipotent, omniscent, omnipresent, etc.) is impossible but are open to the idea of a Deist God (hands-off, created the Universe and walked away) fall? Are they strong or weak atheists? Similarly, what about those who aren’t sure if it’s even possible to know about God? This brings us nicely to our next section, and one that I think will provide considerable insight even to those familiar with the terms.
Agnostic vs. Atheist
It’s a common conception: an agnostic is someone who isn’t sure if God exists or not, right? And the atheist is someone who’s sure God doesn’t exist? Well, we’ve already added nuance to the latter of those views: there are atheists who are certain or almost certain that God isn’t real (and couldn’t be real), and there are those who say that the possibility is open. Now let’s add some nuance to the former.
In many people’s minds, an agnostic is someone who is unsure if they believe in God or not. They feel that there are good arguments for both sides, and they haven’t made up their minds yet. And again, as a descriptive language educator, I need to acknowledge this common use of the term. But I recently encountered two things that made me reconsider my understanding. First, I heard nonbelief described as a spectrum, rather than a series of static points. Like any sliding scale, this allows for the two extremes (I am sure there is a God vs. I am sure there is not a God), with agnostic sitting right in the middle and most people falling somewhere on either side.
This understanding is becoming more popular in the nonbeliever community. In essence, it allows for (and demands) that all nonbelievers select their own names. If I say I’m an atheist, then I’m an atheist, and no one can tell me I’m not. If I say I’m agnostic, or Bright, or a freethinker, or whatever else, then I’m that, and the argument of “no, that’s not what you really are” is settled. This way of thinking helps prevent arguments of the kind that plague religions worldwide (“You’re not a true Catholic/Episcopalian/Baptist/Methodist/Mormon/etc”).
Second is this image, and the distinction it makes between gnostic and agnostic.

The picture speaks for itself, but show you one more that adds another level of detail.

As you can see, atheist vs. theist and gnostic vs. agnostic are placed on separate axes, allowing for four possible combinations. I don’t want to spend too much time on this because I think it’s a big discussion to have, but I wanted to put it out there and see what others think. Agnostic is not typically used in this manner in my experience, but the concept makes sense and I think it warrants examination. Another time, perhaps. We’re nearly done with our lecture for today. One more topic to cover.
How does someone become an atheist?
Becoming an atheist isn’t nearly as complicated as joining one of the many and varied churches of the world. There’s only one thing you need to do: be born. All babies are born atheist. They are born without any concept of God, awareness of a soul/spirit, or knowledge of any divine presence whatsoever. As I’ve heard it said, there are no Christian/Jewish/Muslim children: there are only the children of Christian/Jewish/Muslim parents. But as we know, a critical piece of every major religion is the unrelenting need to propagate the belief, and thus many or most religions encourage parents to indoctrinate their children with the system. However, not all parents do a very good job at this.
Thus we arrive at the second method: grow up. Children who are not raised in religious households or are raised in homes where religion is a tertiary, minor piece of their lives are most likely going to avoid becoming religious by manner of priorities. Why spend time on something that is not important to you? As everyone who’s been a teenager knows, this view essentially dominates all others for a number of years. Therefore, children who have no particular reason to gravitate toward religion probably won’t, and remain atheists (whether aware of it or not). But what about those kids whose parents are religious, or who meet a fanatical classmate and are whisked away to an evening service or a weekend retreat?
This third level requires special action, because now the person holds a religious belief in God or gods–and as we know, atheism’s only requirement is the lack of such a belief. People at this stage come to atheism in various ways. Perhaps something traumatic happens to them within the context of religion, causing them to disavow their belief in God. Perhaps they meet an atheist and are swayed by the arguments. Perhaps they study philosophy, science, or some other field and begin to question whether their beliefs are true, thus utilizing reason to call their faith into question. Perhaps they simply lose their fervor and drift away, until one day realizing that they no longer believe in what they used to. The means and methods are varied, but the outcome is the same: atheism.
To sum up, people become atheists in one of two ways: either they’re never really introduced to the corrupting influence of religious belief, or they wring themselves free of its grasp. For those in the former category, atheism isn’t exactly a choice; rather, its the default position. For those in the latter category (such as myself), atheism is definitely a choice, one that is made after careful consideration.

It took genii like Marx, Stalin, Mao, and the Kim's plus the blood of hundreds of millions to establish atheist Utopias around the globe and even they failed miserably.
 
It took genii like Marx, Stalin, Mao, and the Kim's plus the blood of hundreds of millions to establish atheist Utopias and even they failed miserably.
so you ain't know nothing about atheism. never too late to get to know it if you open your mind.

Seven Common Misconceptions About Atheism (1998)
Keith M. Parsons
[This lecture was originally delivered to the Houstonians for Secular Humanism on October 18, 1998.]
Atheism has long been the target of hostility. In the Laws, Plato recommended various degrees of punishment for atheists. Thomas Aquinas held that unbelievers should be "shut off from the world by death." John Locke's famous doctrine of toleration stopped short with atheists. In the Eighteenth Century, David Hume, perhaps the greatest philosopher ever to write in the English language, was denied a university post because he was suspected of atheism. As recently as the Nineteenth Century, atheists in Britain could be prosecuted for blasphemy. In the United States during the 1950's, "atheism" was practically synonymous with "communism." It is small wonder that a doctrine so despised has been the object of calumny. Even today many misconceptions about atheism persist.
I think the seven most common misconceptions about atheism are the following:
1) Atheism implies that life is absurd or meaningless.
2) Atheists, since they lack a conception of heaven or hell, have no motivation to be good.
3) Atheism is the claim that no gods exist. Atheism therefore must prove a negative, but it is impossible to prove a negative. Therefore, atheism is an impossible doctrine.
4) Atheists, agnostics, and other nonbelievers are a tiny minority, a "fringe group" within the overall population. Therefore, their interests and arguments can be largely ignored.
5) Atheists are intolerant. They are prejudiced against religious people.
6) Atheism undermines patriotism and good citizenship. America was founded on Christian principles, so atheism undercuts the very foundation of American civilization.
7) Atheists are guilty of scientism, the deification of science.
Some of these misconceptions are popular mostly among the uneducated or semieducated. Number three, for instance, is a common pseudointellectual gambit, especially popular with nineteen year olds who have had one or two philosophy courses and read a lot of Josh McDowell. Others of these are held by some very educated and sophisticated people. I shall consider these misconceptions one by one.
(1) Does atheism imply that life is absurd? Prominent philosopher and Christian apologist William Lane Craig thinks that it does. For the atheist, human life is just an infinitesimal moment before the eternal grave:
If God does not exist, then both man and the universe are inevitably doomed to death. Man, like all biological organisms, must die. With no hope of immortality, man's life leads only to the grave. His life is but a spark in the infinite blackness, a spark that flickers, and dies forever. Compared to the infinite stretch of time, the span of man's life is but an infinitesimal moment; and yet this all the life he will ever know .... For though I know now that I exist, that I am alive, I also know that someday I will no longer exist, that I will no longer be, that I will die. This thought is staggering and threatening: to think that the person I call "myself' will cease to exist, that I will be no more (Craig, 1994, p. 57)!
One hardly knows where to begin in commenting on this remarkable passage. I guess my first impression is one of monumental egotism. Surely there is something monstrously egocentric in thinking that my life is of such transcendent significance that I should be an exception to cosmic law--that my ego should survive when planets, stars, and galaxies are no more. As for anyone who really worries about the ultimate "death" of the universe, the best advice would be "Get a life!"
More to the point, the implied premise of the above passage is extremely dubious. Why should life have to be everlasting to be meaningful? Why not draw the reverse conclusion and say that, since we know that life is fleeting, we should strive to experience all the meaning we can within that short compass? The message we should draw from our knowledge of our mortality is this: You have a limited number of days, hours, and minutes. Therefore you should strive to fill each of those days, hours, and minutes with meaning. You should strive to fill them with learning and gaining wisdom, - with compassion for the less fortunate, with love for friends and family, with doing a job well, with fighting against evil and obscurantism, and, yes, with enjoying sex, TV, pizza, and ballgames.
What could Dr. Craig say to those of us for whom the above-mentioned sorts of goods--family, friends, learning, compassion--paradigmatically constitute the meaningfulness of life? I guess he could say that we are only fooling ourselves. We think that our lives are meaningful when in fact they are absurd and pointless. I don't know what to say to someone who insists that my life is meaningless when it seems to me to be rich with meaning. I suspect that he is implicitly defining "meaning" in a question-begging way. More likely, I think that the denial that life is meaningful for atheists is an expression of simple arrogance.
(2) Since atheists do not believe in heaven and hell, what motivation do they have to be good? As Bertrand Russell noted long ago, anyone who asks this question must have no concept of disinterested goodness. It is not clear that the question of what motivates morality really needs an answer. Isn't virtue supposed to be its own reward?
Maybe, though, it is too optimistic to expect people to be good without a carrot and stick. What can atheists say to the person who says "What's in it for me?" when admonished to be good? What can atheists offer to compare with the bribery of heaven and the terrorism of hell?
Atheists can reply with reference to an authority older than the New Testament: Aristotle. Aristotle said that the human is a "political animal" and that the only creatures who can live apart from society are beasts or gods. Hermits are very rare, and are almost always sociopaths or religious fanatics. Humans then, are by nature gregarious. We find our personal fulfillment only in relations with other people. Further, genuine well-being, eudaimonia for Aristotle, is achievable only through the practice of virtue.
Why be good? Because being good--living virtuously--is the only way to a fulfilled, self-actualized life. By living virtuously we sustain those vital social relations-friendship, family, community--without which life is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. Vice leads to misery. Scrooge and the Prodigal Son were made miserable by their vices. Generosity, which lies in the mean between the opposite vices of stinginess and prodigality, promotes happiness.
But wasn't Aristotle wrong in this? Aren't the evil often happier than the good? Doesn't virtue proverbially go unrewarded? Isn't it often perversely the case that "no good deed goes unpunished?"
True, life is unfair. The good often suffer, and the evil often die old, rich, and impenitent. But it is not going too far out on a limb to assert that mean, rotten, nasty people usually have miserable lives. Prison is not a pleasant place. Even if they are clever enough to avoid prison, bad people usually have bad lives. They may have sycophants, but few real friends. They can buy sex from prostitutes or trophy wives, but they seldom know true love. Their neighbors won't speak to them and their children abandon them. They may die rich, but they die alone.
The specter of eternal punishment is a bit too much for atheists to take, but atheists do have ready answers for those who demand "What's in it for me?" Besides, all the efforts of fire-and-brimstone preachers have not succeeded in making hell real for most people. The fear of a miserable life in the here-and-now seems a better motivator.
(3) Sophomoric critics of atheism often charge that atheism is committed to proving the negative proposition "no gods exist" and, since allegedly no one can prove a negative, this shows that atheism is an absurd doctrine. The first thing to note is that it is often possible to prove negatives. Euclid proved that there is no highest prime number. I can prove that my bicycle is not in the basement by going downstairs, turning on the light, and looking around.
Well, what about the claim "gods do not exist?" Can that be proven? No, I don't think I can prove that Zeus, Odin, Yahweh, Quetzalcoatl, etc. do not exist any more than I can prove that unicorns do not exist. But not every rational belief has to rest on proof. We deny the reality of many things, not because we can disprove them, but because there is simply no point in postulating their existence. Why don't we believe in Aristotelian Prime Movers any more? Because there is no need for them in our current understanding of the physical cosmos. Likewise for gods. The atheist simply doesn't see that gods need to be invoked to explain any aspect of the world; we now have better explanations. Even where no accepted physical explanation currently exists, atheists see no reason to invent a "god of the gaps."
Furthermore, most atheists think that there is evidence against the existence of one god in particular--the God of theism. I think that the existence of a plethora of apparently pointless evils is good evidence against the claim that an all-powerful, all-good being created the universe. Even if this evidence does not amount to proof, it is strong support for the claim that God does not exist.
If, therefore, there is no good reason to think that God does exist, and one or more good reasons to think that he does not, it is clearly more reasonable to believe that God does not exist than to believe that he does. In this case, atheists are eminently justified in denying the existence of God, even though they lack a decisive disproof.
4) A recent letter in the Op/Ed section of the Houston Chronicle dismissed nonbelievers as a "fringe group"--a tiny minority of the population. The implication is that if there are only a few hundred or so atheists or agnostics in the United States, then they must be cranky extremists like flat-earthers or alien abductees. Of course, this objection commits the ad populum fallacy; truth is not determined by the number of its adherents.
Let's play along, though, and see if nonbelievers are truly a "fringe group" within the population.
According to a recent Gallup poll, 96% of American adults say they believe in God. However, this figure is less helpful than it appears since it does not indicate what the respondents meant when they said they believed in "God." No doubt the vast majority understand by "God" the traditional, supernatural deity of orthodox Christianity or Judaism. Surely, though, there are a good number of New Age types and others who mean something entirely different when they affirm belief in "God." Often they mean something like "the God within each person." Then there are many Unitarians and other "liberal" Christians who would affirm belief in God, but who interpret "God" as a metaphor or some other thoroughly "demythologized" concept. In other words, the actual content of the beliefs of many who say they believe in God is probably tantamount to atheism or agnosticism.
Let us accept that only four percent of the adult U.S. population does not believe in any God or gods. This is probably an underestimate, for the reasons given above, but let us accept it for the sake of argument. According to the 1997 Statistical Abstract of the United States, the population of the United States is about 265 million. If we define "adult" as those 20 years old and older, the adult population of the United States is -about 189 million. Four percent of 189 million is over 7.5 million. According to the 1997 Statistical Abstract, the total number of United Methodists in the United States is about 8.5 million. Thus the number of adult nonbelievers is nearly equal to the total number of United Methodists, the second-largest Protestant denomination. Some fringe group.
Of course, America is a notoriously religious country. If we extend our view worldwide, the percentage of people who don't believe in gods increases dramatically. Many millions of people in Japan and China do not believe in gods. Even if only 1% of the world's people believe in no gods, surely a gross underestimate, that is still 60 million people--hardly a negligible number.
5) Are atheists intolerant of religious people? About ten years ago I addressed an article to the claims of Christian apologist J.P. Moreland. I claimed that atheists did not harangue people on street comers or visit schoolyards to hand out tracts. In general, I claimed, atheists believe in "live and let live" and, unlike fundamentalist zealots, make little effort to proselytize.
Moreland took me to task, saying that he could "only marvel" at my claim that atheists generally were not intolerant of believers. At the time, I could only marvel at his marveling. In the meantime, I'm sad to say, I've encountered some very obnoxious atheists who seem to take delight in attacking any expression of religious belief, no matter how innocuous. So I must concede to Moreland that, yes, atheists can sometimes be as offensive and obnoxious as the most bigoted Bible-thumpers.
In general, though, are atheists intolerant of religion? What does it mean to be "intolerant of religion?" Am I intolerant because I oppose the teaching of "Scientific Creationism" or mandatory prayers in the public schools? Am I intolerant because I oppose the use of public property or the allocation of taxpayer dollars to promote religious belief or support religious institutions? Am I intolerant because I oppose the political agenda of the Christian Coalition? I guess if these things make me intolerant of religion, I'll just have to accept the label.
Let's remember that many of those who hurl charges of intolerance at atheists are themselves our culture's most notable exemplars of intolerance.Despite the fundamentalists' nauseatingly hypocritical claims to "love the homosexual" while "hating his sin," the hysterical attacks on gay people by the Religious Right are symptomatic of a profound, visceral hatred. Besides, fundamentalist activists represent what Eric Hoffer called "The 100% mentality." If you don't support them 100%, then not only are you wrong, you are evil, literally "of the devil." With people like that it is damned difficult not to be considered intolerant.
6) Can atheists be good citizens? Wasn't America founded on Christian values? The short answers to these questions are "yes" and "no" respectively. Despite the old saying, there have indeed been atheists in foxholes. Nonbelievers participate fully in all the positive aspects of American life, including military service and jury duty. They pay taxes, struggle to raise decent, law-abiding kids, and contribute money to charity and time to volunteer work. There is simply no evidence whatsoever that atheists are any less honest, hardworking, or patriotic than anybody else.
But isn't atheism an anti-American ideology, opposed to the Christian foundations of American society? The best answer to this question is another question: What Christian foundations? The Constitution of the United States is a thoroughly secular document. There is nothing, absolutely nothing in the Constitution that justifies any claims about American polity or law being based on religion. If fact, the chief opposition to the Constitution during its period of ratification came from religious groups who opposed it as "Godless."
Well, aren't the conceptions of democracy, human rights, and human dignity grounded in the Christian tradition? No. Democracy was invented by pagan Greeks. The concept of "rights" is a product of thinkers of the Enlightenment who reacted against the Christian view that those who dissented from established dogma should be burned. As for the notion of human dignity, what kind of notion of human dignity can be grounded in a dogma that regards humans as worthy of eternal damnation?
7) Finally, does atheism deify science? Are we guilty of "scientism?" As with the question of intolerance, I would like to give a personal answer. I regard science as the noblest of human enterprises. The struggle to understand the cosmos, in the face of the subtlety of nature and the malignity of human obscurantism, is a great task worthy of our richest praise. Further, I believe that science is a rational, progressive enterprise that has illuminated many things previously shrouded in darkness. I strongly oppose the efforts of "postmodernists" to debunk scientific discoveries as mere "social constructs" and to dismiss scientific methods as arbitrary "rules of the game." I reject relativist epistemologies that regard science as just another form of discourse, no better or worse than poetry, theology, or Polynesian mythology. I also reject antirealist philosophies of science which deny that science can ever "tell it like it is" but can only achieve "empirical adequacy." Do these commitments make me "scientistic?" If so, once again, I gladly accept the label.
However, certainly do not regard science as the only thing valuable in life, as my above comments about the meaning of life show. But what about "other ways of knowing?" Isn't it scientistic to insist that science is the only way of knowing, and don't atheists often make this or similar claims?
I'm curious about these "other ways of knowing." What are they? Revelation? Well, I don't see that the possibility of revelation should be excluded a priori. Mark Twain had it right though when he pointed out that what is revelation for you might be only hearsay for me. The point is that if knowledge is to be shared, if it is to become property of the community, it must be public knowledge. Private illuminations, personal intuitions, and mystical enlightenment are not to be disparaged--indeed, science itself, at least in the context of discovery, often depends on hunches, inspired guesses, even prejudice. But to convince others, in the context of justification, we simply cannot appeal to subjective experience. Science has developed many tools for testing claims and has sharpened those tools to a fine edge. Where those tools can be applied we would be fools not to use them, but of course not every question vital to human life can be answered with the tools of science. I guess whether we are scientistic or not depends on whether we try to apply the tools of science where they are inappropriate. Exactly where we should draw the line is a matter of philosophical debate, and philosophers, even atheist philosophers, disagree widely here.
In conclusion, I hope I have addressed the main misconceptions about atheism. I'm sure that my answers will not satisfy those for whom atheism is a terrible bugbear. Of course, many people pursue a political or ideological agenda that requires them to disparage atheism. For people of good will however, perhaps atheism can be seen not as an exotic or extreme doctrine, but as a reasonable way to make it through this vale of tears called life.
 
Desperate? I think you misunderstand. I enjoy disposing the hypocrisy and the violence nature of Christianity, the detrimental force of human history, desperate? no. You can have all the denials you could muster on Christian witch hunt but fact won't change.

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Christianity And The Witch Hunt Era (1/12)
Introduction
The European witch hunting era is one of the most appalling atrocities in Christian history, and has stigmatised the Christians of the Middle Ages (as well as Christianity generally), as superstitious, irrational, ignorant, and inhumane. But whilst there is no excusing the perpetrators, or those who encouraged the craze, certain facts should be understood which demonstrate that this madness was in fact not characteristic of Christianity, nor even characteristic of Christianity in the Middle Ages and Renaissance, but a strange incongruity in almost 2,000 years of Christian history.
The following charges have been directed at Christianity generally, and the established church specifically:
* That 9 million people were killed as a result of the witch hunts
* That the witch hunts were the product of a deliberate campaign by the established church to suppress an ancient pagan ‘mother goddess’ religion, or (more generally), to suppress women
* That the witch hunts were the result of hysterical anti-heresy efforts carried out by the Inquisition
* That the witch hunt era came to an end as a result of the ‘Age of Reason’, the rise of science, and a declining belief in the supernatural
Such charges are typically found among feminists and those who hold to ‘New Age’ beliefs, including self-styled ‘pagans’, or ‘neo-pagans’. None of these charges are true. In particular, the anti-Christian arguments frequently presented by pagans and neo-pagans are completely without evidence or substance.
An excellent article by self-described pagan Jenny Gibbons (addressed to her fellow pagans), destroys utterly the most common arguments raised. Gibbons notes that the vast majority of feminist and pagan literature on this subject is grossly inaccurate, and completely out of date:

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I guess you @ForwardRetreat assume no one except you and your comrades can discern the difference between history and the present as well as that between thousands and millions? Well, it is indeed very telling! :)
 
so you ain't know nothing about atheism. never too late to get to know it if you open your mind.

Seven Common Misconceptions About Atheism (1998)
Keith M. Parsons
[This lecture was originally delivered to the Houstonians for Secular Humanism on October 18, 1998.]
Atheism has long been the target of hostility. In the Laws, Plato recommended various degrees of punishment for atheists. Thomas Aquinas held that unbelievers should be "shut off from the world by death." John Locke's famous doctrine of toleration stopped short with atheists. In the Eighteenth Century, David Hume, perhaps the greatest philosopher ever to write in the English language, was denied a university post because he was suspected of atheism. As recently as the Nineteenth Century, atheists in Britain could be prosecuted for blasphemy. In the United States during the 1950's, "atheism" was practically synonymous with "communism." It is small wonder that a doctrine so despised has been the object of calumny. Even today many misconceptions about atheism persist.
I think the seven most common misconceptions about atheism are the following:
1) Atheism implies that life is absurd or meaningless.
2) Atheists, since they lack a conception of heaven or hell, have no motivation to be good.
3) Atheism is the claim that no gods exist. Atheism therefore must prove a negative, but it is impossible to prove a negative. Therefore, atheism is an impossible doctrine.
4) Atheists, agnostics, and other nonbelievers are a tiny minority, a "fringe group" within the overall population. Therefore, their interests and arguments can be largely ignored.
5) Atheists are intolerant. They are prejudiced against religious people.
6) Atheism undermines patriotism and good citizenship. America was founded on Christian principles, so atheism undercuts the very foundation of American civilization.
7) Atheists are guilty of scientism, the deification of science.
Some of these misconceptions are popular mostly among the uneducated or semieducated. Number three, for instance, is a common pseudointellectual gambit, especially popular with nineteen year olds who have had one or two philosophy courses and read a lot of Josh McDowell. Others of these are held by some very educated and sophisticated people. I shall consider these misconceptions one by one.
(1) Does atheism imply that life is absurd? Prominent philosopher and Christian apologist William Lane Craig thinks that it does. For the atheist, human life is just an infinitesimal moment before the eternal grave:
If God does not exist, then both man and the universe are inevitably doomed to death. Man, like all biological organisms, must die. With no hope of immortality, man's life leads only to the grave. His life is but a spark in the infinite blackness, a spark that flickers, and dies forever. Compared to the infinite stretch of time, the span of man's life is but an infinitesimal moment; and yet this all the life he will ever know .... For though I know now that I exist, that I am alive, I also know that someday I will no longer exist, that I will no longer be, that I will die. This thought is staggering and threatening: to think that the person I call "myself' will cease to exist, that I will be no more (Craig, 1994, p. 57)!
One hardly knows where to begin in commenting on this remarkable passage. I guess my first impression is one of monumental egotism. Surely there is something monstrously egocentric in thinking that my life is of such transcendent significance that I should be an exception to cosmic law--that my ego should survive when planets, stars, and galaxies are no more. As for anyone who really worries about the ultimate "death" of the universe, the best advice would be "Get a life!"
More to the point, the implied premise of the above passage is extremely dubious. Why should life have to be everlasting to be meaningful? Why not draw the reverse conclusion and say that, since we know that life is fleeting, we should strive to experience all the meaning we can within that short compass? The message we should draw from our knowledge of our mortality is this: You have a limited number of days, hours, and minutes. Therefore you should strive to fill each of those days, hours, and minutes with meaning. You should strive to fill them with learning and gaining wisdom, - with compassion for the less fortunate, with love for friends and family, with doing a job well, with fighting against evil and obscurantism, and, yes, with enjoying sex, TV, pizza, and ballgames.
What could Dr. Craig say to those of us for whom the above-mentioned sorts of goods--family, friends, learning, compassion--paradigmatically constitute the meaningfulness of life? I guess he could say that we are only fooling ourselves. We think that our lives are meaningful when in fact they are absurd and pointless. I don't know what to say to someone who insists that my life is meaningless when it seems to me to be rich with meaning. I suspect that he is implicitly defining "meaning" in a question-begging way. More likely, I think that the denial that life is meaningful for atheists is an expression of simple arrogance.
(2) Since atheists do not believe in heaven and hell, what motivation do they have to be good? As Bertrand Russell noted long ago, anyone who asks this question must have no concept of disinterested goodness. It is not clear that the question of what motivates morality really needs an answer. Isn't virtue supposed to be its own reward?
Maybe, though, it is too optimistic to expect people to be good without a carrot and stick. What can atheists say to the person who says "What's in it for me?" when admonished to be good? What can atheists offer to compare with the bribery of heaven and the terrorism of hell?
Atheists can reply with reference to an authority older than the New Testament: Aristotle. Aristotle said that the human is a "political animal" and that the only creatures who can live apart from society are beasts or gods. Hermits are very rare, and are almost always sociopaths or religious fanatics. Humans then, are by nature gregarious. We find our personal fulfillment only in relations with other people. Further, genuine well-being, eudaimonia for Aristotle, is achievable only through the practice of virtue.
Why be good? Because being good--living virtuously--is the only way to a fulfilled, self-actualized life. By living virtuously we sustain those vital social relations-friendship, family, community--without which life is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. Vice leads to misery. Scrooge and the Prodigal Son were made miserable by their vices. Generosity, which lies in the mean between the opposite vices of stinginess and prodigality, promotes happiness.
But wasn't Aristotle wrong in this? Aren't the evil often happier than the good? Doesn't virtue proverbially go unrewarded? Isn't it often perversely the case that "no good deed goes unpunished?"
True, life is unfair. The good often suffer, and the evil often die old, rich, and impenitent. But it is not going too far out on a limb to assert that mean, rotten, nasty people usually have miserable lives. Prison is not a pleasant place. Even if they are clever enough to avoid prison, bad people usually have bad lives. They may have sycophants, but few real friends. They can buy sex from prostitutes or trophy wives, but they seldom know true love. Their neighbors won't speak to them and their children abandon them. They may die rich, but they die alone.
The specter of eternal punishment is a bit too much for atheists to take, but atheists do have ready answers for those who demand "What's in it for me?" Besides, all the efforts of fire-and-brimstone preachers have not succeeded in making hell real for most people. The fear of a miserable life in the here-and-now seems a better motivator.
(3) Sophomoric critics of atheism often charge that atheism is committed to proving the negative proposition "no gods exist" and, since allegedly no one can prove a negative, this shows that atheism is an absurd doctrine. The first thing to note is that it is often possible to prove negatives. Euclid proved that there is no highest prime number. I can prove that my bicycle is not in the basement by going downstairs, turning on the light, and looking around.
Well, what about the claim "gods do not exist?" Can that be proven? No, I don't think I can prove that Zeus, Odin, Yahweh, Quetzalcoatl, etc. do not exist any more than I can prove that unicorns do not exist. But not every rational belief has to rest on proof. We deny the reality of many things, not because we can disprove them, but because there is simply no point in postulating their existence. Why don't we believe in Aristotelian Prime Movers any more? Because there is no need for them in our current understanding of the physical cosmos. Likewise for gods. The atheist simply doesn't see that gods need to be invoked to explain any aspect of the world; we now have better explanations. Even where no accepted physical explanation currently exists, atheists see no reason to invent a "god of the gaps."
Furthermore, most atheists think that there is evidence against the existence of one god in particular--the God of theism. I think that the existence of a plethora of apparently pointless evils is good evidence against the claim that an all-powerful, all-good being created the universe. Even if this evidence does not amount to proof, it is strong support for the claim that God does not exist.
If, therefore, there is no good reason to think that God does exist, and one or more good reasons to think that he does not, it is clearly more reasonable to believe that God does not exist than to believe that he does. In this case, atheists are eminently justified in denying the existence of God, even though they lack a decisive disproof.
4) A recent letter in the Op/Ed section of the Houston Chronicle dismissed nonbelievers as a "fringe group"--a tiny minority of the population. The implication is that if there are only a few hundred or so atheists or agnostics in the United States, then they must be cranky extremists like flat-earthers or alien abductees. Of course, this objection commits the ad populum fallacy; truth is not determined by the number of its adherents.
Let's play along, though, and see if nonbelievers are truly a "fringe group" within the population.
According to a recent Gallup poll, 96% of American adults say they believe in God. However, this figure is less helpful than it appears since it does not indicate what the respondents meant when they said they believed in "God." No doubt the vast majority understand by "God" the traditional, supernatural deity of orthodox Christianity or Judaism. Surely, though, there are a good number of New Age types and others who mean something entirely different when they affirm belief in "God." Often they mean something like "the God within each person." Then there are many Unitarians and other "liberal" Christians who would affirm belief in God, but who interpret "God" as a metaphor or some other thoroughly "demythologized" concept. In other words, the actual content of the beliefs of many who say they believe in God is probably tantamount to atheism or agnosticism.
Let us accept that only four percent of the adult U.S. population does not believe in any God or gods. This is probably an underestimate, for the reasons given above, but let us accept it for the sake of argument. According to the 1997 Statistical Abstract of the United States, the population of the United States is about 265 million. If we define "adult" as those 20 years old and older, the adult population of the United States is -about 189 million. Four percent of 189 million is over 7.5 million. According to the 1997 Statistical Abstract, the total number of United Methodists in the United States is about 8.5 million. Thus the number of adult nonbelievers is nearly equal to the total number of United Methodists, the second-largest Protestant denomination. Some fringe group.
Of course, America is a notoriously religious country. If we extend our view worldwide, the percentage of people who don't believe in gods increases dramatically. Many millions of people in Japan and China do not believe in gods. Even if only 1% of the world's people believe in no gods, surely a gross underestimate, that is still 60 million people--hardly a negligible number.
5) Are atheists intolerant of religious people? About ten years ago I addressed an article to the claims of Christian apologist J.P. Moreland. I claimed that atheists did not harangue people on street comers or visit schoolyards to hand out tracts. In general, I claimed, atheists believe in "live and let live" and, unlike fundamentalist zealots, make little effort to proselytize.
Moreland took me to task, saying that he could "only marvel" at my claim that atheists generally were not intolerant of believers. At the time, I could only marvel at his marveling. In the meantime, I'm sad to say, I've encountered some very obnoxious atheists who seem to take delight in attacking any expression of religious belief, no matter how innocuous. So I must concede to Moreland that, yes, atheists can sometimes be as offensive and obnoxious as the most bigoted Bible-thumpers.
In general, though, are atheists intolerant of religion? What does it mean to be "intolerant of religion?" Am I intolerant because I oppose the teaching of "Scientific Creationism" or mandatory prayers in the public schools? Am I intolerant because I oppose the use of public property or the allocation of taxpayer dollars to promote religious belief or support religious institutions? Am I intolerant because I oppose the political agenda of the Christian Coalition? I guess if these things make me intolerant of religion, I'll just have to accept the label.
Let's remember that many of those who hurl charges of intolerance at atheists are themselves our culture's most notable exemplars of intolerance.Despite the fundamentalists' nauseatingly hypocritical claims to "love the homosexual" while "hating his sin," the hysterical attacks on gay people by the Religious Right are symptomatic of a profound, visceral hatred. Besides, fundamentalist activists represent what Eric Hoffer called "The 100% mentality." If you don't support them 100%, then not only are you wrong, you are evil, literally "of the devil." With people like that it is damned difficult not to be considered intolerant.
6) Can atheists be good citizens? Wasn't America founded on Christian values? The short answers to these questions are "yes" and "no" respectively. Despite the old saying, there have indeed been atheists in foxholes. Nonbelievers participate fully in all the positive aspects of American life, including military service and jury duty. They pay taxes, struggle to raise decent, law-abiding kids, and contribute money to charity and time to volunteer work. There is simply no evidence whatsoever that atheists are any less honest, hardworking, or patriotic than anybody else.
But isn't atheism an anti-American ideology, opposed to the Christian foundations of American society? The best answer to this question is another question: What Christian foundations? The Constitution of the United States is a thoroughly secular document. There is nothing, absolutely nothing in the Constitution that justifies any claims about American polity or law being based on religion. If fact, the chief opposition to the Constitution during its period of ratification came from religious groups who opposed it as "Godless."
Well, aren't the conceptions of democracy, human rights, and human dignity grounded in the Christian tradition? No. Democracy was invented by pagan Greeks. The concept of "rights" is a product of thinkers of the Enlightenment who reacted against the Christian view that those who dissented from established dogma should be burned. As for the notion of human dignity, what kind of notion of human dignity can be grounded in a dogma that regards humans as worthy of eternal damnation?
7) Finally, does atheism deify science? Are we guilty of "scientism?" As with the question of intolerance, I would like to give a personal answer. I regard science as the noblest of human enterprises. The struggle to understand the cosmos, in the face of the subtlety of nature and the malignity of human obscurantism, is a great task worthy of our richest praise. Further, I believe that science is a rational, progressive enterprise that has illuminated many things previously shrouded in darkness. I strongly oppose the efforts of "postmodernists" to debunk scientific discoveries as mere "social constructs" and to dismiss scientific methods as arbitrary "rules of the game." I reject relativist epistemologies that regard science as just another form of discourse, no better or worse than poetry, theology, or Polynesian mythology. I also reject antirealist philosophies of science which deny that science can ever "tell it like it is" but can only achieve "empirical adequacy." Do these commitments make me "scientistic?" If so, once again, I gladly accept the label.
However, certainly do not regard science as the only thing valuable in life, as my above comments about the meaning of life show. But what about "other ways of knowing?" Isn't it scientistic to insist that science is the only way of knowing, and don't atheists often make this or similar claims?
I'm curious about these "other ways of knowing." What are they? Revelation? Well, I don't see that the possibility of revelation should be excluded a priori. Mark Twain had it right though when he pointed out that what is revelation for you might be only hearsay for me. The point is that if knowledge is to be shared, if it is to become property of the community, it must be public knowledge. Private illuminations, personal intuitions, and mystical enlightenment are not to be disparaged--indeed, science itself, at least in the context of discovery, often depends on hunches, inspired guesses, even prejudice. But to convince others, in the context of justification, we simply cannot appeal to subjective experience. Science has developed many tools for testing claims and has sharpened those tools to a fine edge. Where those tools can be applied we would be fools not to use them, but of course not every question vital to human life can be answered with the tools of science. I guess whether we are scientistic or not depends on whether we try to apply the tools of science where they are inappropriate. Exactly where we should draw the line is a matter of philosophical debate, and philosophers, even atheist philosophers, disagree widely here.
In conclusion, I hope I have addressed the main misconceptions about atheism. I'm sure that my answers will not satisfy those for whom atheism is a terrible bugbear. Of course, many people pursue a political or ideological agenda that requires them to disparage atheism. For people of good will however, perhaps atheism can be seen not as an exotic or extreme doctrine, but as a reasonable way to make it through this vale of tears called life.

It took genii like Marx, Stalin, Mao, and the Kim's plus the blood of hundreds of millions to establish atheist Utopias around the globe and even they failed miserably.

Wait for the next Stalin and Mao, Dude. It will take a while though. :) Well, the Kim's are no good for anything. Too bad for your bunch.
 
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Wait for the next Stalin, Dude. It will take a while though. :)
actually, totalitarianism is much the same as theocracy. Both are the man-made gods' totalitarianism.

read more on this topic.. and sorry to burst your bubble.

The Atheist Atrocities Fallacy – Hitler, Stalin & Pol Pot
Posted: October 21, 2014 in Uncategorized



In Memory of Christopher Hitchens
Religious apologists, particularly those of the Christian variety, are big fans of what I have dubbed, the atheist atrocities fallacy. Christians commonly employ this fallacy to shield their egos from the harsh reality of the brutality of their own religion, by utilizing a most absurd form of the tu quoque (“you too”) fallacy, mingled with numerous other logical fallacies and historical inaccuracies. Despite the fact that the atheist atrocities fallacy has already been thoroughly exposed by Hitchens and other great thinkers, it continues to circulate amongst the desperate believers of a religion in its death throes. Should an atheist present a believer with the crimes committed by the Holy See of the Inquisition(s), the Crusaders and other faith-wielding misanthropes, they will often hear the reply; “Well, what about Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler? They were atheists, and they killed millions!”
Given the obstinate nature of religious faith and the wilful ignorance it cultivates in the mind of the believer, I am quite certain that this article will not be the final nail in this rancid and rotting coffin. Having said this, I do hope it will contribute to the arsenal required by those who value reason, facts and evidence, in their struggle against the fallacies perpetually flaunted by those who do not value the truth above their own egocentric delusions, delusions inspired by an unquenchable thirst for security, no matter how frighteningly false its foundation.
Before addressing the primary weaknesses of the atheist atrocities fallacy itself, I would like to attend to each of these three homicidal stooges; Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler, who are constantly trotted out to defend a religious worldview. I will lend Hitler the most time, as the claim that he was an atheist represents a most egregious violation of the truth.
HITLER
“Besides that, I believe one thing: there is a Lord God! And this Lord God creates the peoples.” [1] ~Adolf Hitler
“We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations; we have stamped it out” [2] ~Adolf Hitler
Hitler was a Christian. This undeniable fact couldn’t be made any clearer than by his own confessions. Yet, I will not merely present you with these testimonies, as damning as they happen to be on their own, but I also intend on furnishing you with a brief history of the inherent anti-Semitism of the Christian religion. I will do so to demonstrate beyond any reasonable doubt that Hitler and his Christian Nazi Party were acting in complete concordance with traditional Christian anti-Semitism.
To begin, here are just a few of Hitler’s Christian confessions:
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice…For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” [3]
“The greatness of Christianity did not arise from attempts to make compromises with those philosophical opinions of the ancient world which had some resemblance to its own doctrine, but in the unrelenting and fanatical proclamation and defense of its own teaching.” [4]
“His [the Jew’s] life is of this world only and his mentality is as foreign to the true spirit of Christianity as is character was foreign to the great Founder of this new creed two thousand years ago. And the Founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of His estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews…” [5]
Over and above these solid testimonies, there are other equally strong pieces of evidence that indicate that Hitler was a Christian, like the fact that his soldiers all wore the slogan, ‘Gott Mit Uns’ (God with us) on their belts, that his birthday was “celebrated from the pulpits until his death,” as Hitchens so eloquently put it, and that the Nazis published their own slightly revised Christian bible. [6] As the late great Hitchens has already addressed many of these uncomfortable facts, I would now like to move onto an assessment of the Nazi’s horrendous treatment of the Jews in light of Christian history.
Christian anti-Semitism (From the Beginning of the Christian Era)
“His blood be upon us [Jews] and our children” ~“Matthew” 27:25
Prior to Constantine’s legitimization of the Christian religion in the fourth century, Christian anti-Semitism was confined to the canonical and non-canonical works of Christian authors and Church fathers. From the fifth century onward, the fantasies of the ante-Nicene fathers began to manifest into brutal violence.
In the first volume of my three volume book series, (I Am Christ), I trace the concentration camps of World War II all the way back to the Gospel of “John.” In that book, I said:
From all of the evidence available in the volumes of historical works, both Christian and non-Christian, it is clear that there is an unbroken chain of hatred, intolerance, and racism toward the Jews, which began with “John’s” Gospel (see also the Synoptic gospels) and continued all the way down into the twentieth century, ending with Hitler’s bloody campaign against the Church’s most despised enemies. [7]
More than a few bible scholars have made mention of the virulent anti-Semitism of John’s gospel. This anonymous and falsely named piece of work goes beyond its synoptic counterparts (Matthew, Mark and Luke) to directly accuse the Jewish people of being the “sons of Satan” (John 8:44), thereby demonizing the Jewish people and opening the door to a millennia of Jewish suffering at the hands of credulous Christian maniacs.
In Porter’s Dictionary of Biblical Criticism and Interpretation, Porter notes:
…particularly within the post-Holocaust growing sensitivity to the history and consequences of Christian anti-Judaism, has been the concern about the anti-Judaism or even (potential) anti-Semitism of the [John’s] Gospel; its characteristic antithetical use of ‘the Jews’ (NB 8:34–47), hardly neutralized by appeals to 3:16 and 4:22, has earned it the epithet ‘the father of the anti-Semitism of the Christians’: (Bieringer 2001). [8]
Some scholars have sought to make sense of the anti-Semitic rhetoric in John by way of a historical exegesis of the text. At around the time John was written, toward the end of the first century, Christians were being expelled from the Synagogues for the heresy of worshipping a false messiah. [9] It was at this moment in history, many speculate, Christianity broke completely away from its parent religion, Judaism.
In Robert Kysar’s Voyages with John, he enunciates the anti-Semitism within the Johannine community and also looks at some of the theories that have sought to explain the context of the origins of anti-Jewish racism amongst Christians in general, saying:
Over twelve years ago Samuel Sandmel correctly observed, “John is widely regarded as either the most anti-Semitic or at least the most overtly anti-Semitic of the gospels.” Little has been done to ameliorate that harsh judgment since it was first written. While efforts have been made to soften the impact of the tone of John when it comes to Jews and Judaism, the fact remains that a reading of the gospel tends to confirm Sandmel’s judgment. Still, recent theories for understanding the historical setting of the writing of the Fourth Gospel do offer some ways of interpreting the harshness with which the gospel treats Jews and Judaism. Such theories do not change the tone of the gospel but offer a way of explaining that tone. [10]
The historical setting Kysar was referring to pertained to the expulsion of the Johannine Christians from the Synagogues, as he explains in the following words:
An increasingly clear picture emerges from all these studies grounded in the hypothesis that the gospel was written in response to the exclusion of the Johannine church from the synagogue and the subsequent dialogue between these two religious parties. The subject of the picture is a defensive and threatened Christian community, attempting to reshape its identity isolated from the synagogue and its Jewish roots. [11]
But Christian anti-Semitism cannot be laid solely on the shoulders of the anonymous author of John, as the passion narratives contained in all four gospels were also co-conspirators in the crimes committed against Jewish families. To illustrate this fact we have the testimonies of various Church fathers.
“He (Jesus Christ) made known the one and only true God, His Father, and underwent the passion, and endured the cross at the hands of the Christ-killing Jews…” [12] ~Ignatius of Antioch (2nd Century Apostolic Father)
Further, the second century Church father and apologist Justin Martyr, in his Dialogue with the Jewish philosopher Trypho, said:
“For other nations have not inflicted on us and on Christ this wrong to such an extent as you have, who in very deed are the authors of the wicked prejudice against the Just One, and us who hold by Him. For after that you had crucified Him, the only blameless and righteous Man,– through whose stripes those who approach the Father by Him are healed, –when you knew that He had risen from the dead and ascended to heaven, as the prophets foretold He would, you not only did not repent of the wickedness which you had committed…” [13]
Going into the fifth Christian century, the racism of the Church continued with Pope Leo “the Great,” who, in an Easter Sermon on the Passion of Christ, exhorted:
“And when morning was come all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death.” This morning, O ye Jews, was for you not the rising, but the setting of the sun, nor did the wonted daylight visit your eyes, but a night of blackest darkness brooded on your naughty hearts. This morning overthrew for you the temple and its altars, did away with the Law and the Prophets, destroyed the Kingdom and the priesthood, turned all your feasts into eternal mourning. For ye resolved on a mad and bloody counsel, ye “fat bulls,” ye “many oxen,” ye “roaring” wild beasts, ye rabid “dogs,” to give up to death the Author of life and the LORD of glory; and, as if the enormity of your fury could be palliated by employing the verdict of him, who ruled your province, you lead Jesus bound to Pilate’s judgment, that the terror-stricken judge being overcome by your persistent shouts, you might choose a man that was a murderer for pardon, and demand the crucifixion of the Saviour of the world.” [14]
Also in the fifth century, John Chrysostom, a most vile and capricious Church father, in his work, Orations Against The Jews, wrote:
And the Jews are more savage than any highwaymen; they do greater harm to those who have fallen among them. They did not strip off their victim’s clothes nor inflict wounds on his body as did those robbers on the road to Jericho. The Jews have mortally hurt their victim’s soul, inflicted on it ten thousand wounds, and left it lying in the pit of ungodliness.[15]
Although I have only provided a few of the litany of examples available, anti-Semitic rhetoric permeated the very fabric of Christian history and was eventually the inspiration for the founder of the Protestant Church, Martin Luther, who told Protestant Christians that they would be at fault if they didn’t slaughter Jews. [16]
Further still, citing Luther’s own words from his polemic, On the Jews and their Lies, and the work of one of Luther’s biographers, Robert Michael, who documented various speeches spewed into the ears of Luther’s listeners, we suffer the following racist profanities:
“…the Jews are a base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth.” [17] They are full of the “devil’s faeces …which they wallow in like swine.” [18] The synagogue was a “defiled bride, yes, an incorrigible whore and an evil slut …” [19] He argues that their synagogues and schools be set on fi re, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness, [20] afforded no legal protection, [21] and these “poisonous envenomed worms” should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. [22]
In Louis A. Ruprecht Jr’s This Tragic Gospel – How John Corrupted the Heart of Christianity, he remarks on the similarity between Luther’s hatred of the Jews and the racist rhetoric of John’s gospel, saying:
First, then, to his declaration of war on Jews, Luther ’s evolving anti-Semitism is legendary and assuredly represents one of the darkest chapters in this polemicist ’ s long career. Luther argues against the Jews precisely as John’s Jesus did. [23]
Having successfully connected the anti-Semitism of John to the founder of the Protestant Church, all we need do now is establish a connection between Luther’s racism and Hitler’s.
To confirm this association, I call upon the testimony of the former Dean of St. Paul’s Cathedral, William Inge. The late Dean said of the atrocities committed by Hitler and his Nazi Party:
“If we wish to find a scapegoat on whose shoulders we may lay the miseries which Germany has brought on the world, I am more and more convinced that the worst evil genius of that country, is not Hitler or Bismarck or Frederick the Great, but Martin Luther.” [24]
But this is just one learned man’s opinion, right? Wrong. Numerous scholars and commentators have remarked on the Lutheran origin of Hitler’s anti-Semitism, no less Hitler himself:
The great protagonists are those who fight for their ideas and ideals despite the fact that they receive no recognition at the hands of their contemporaries. They are the men whose memories will be enshrined in the hearts of the future generations….To this group belong not only the genuinely great statesmen but all the great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great we have such men as Martin Luther and Richard Wagner. [25]
Despite the overwhelming evidence that Hitler and his Nazi Party were heavily influenced by Martin Luther’s anti-Semitic teachings, and the present consensus amongst historical scholars, which rests upon this mountain of evidence,[26] a handful of Christian scholars have sought in vain to draw petty distinctions between Hitler’s anti-Semitism and Martin Luther’s.
Martin Brecht, for example, argued that there was a vast difference between Hitler’s anti-Semitism and Martin Luther’s. For Luther, Brecht argued, the rejection of Christ was the significant source of contempt, whereas for Hitler it was purely racial. [27] Yet such hollow distinctions are washed away not only by the wealth of evidence indicating the Nazi’s admiration for Luther, but the direct influence that Christian anti-Semitism had on Hitler and his Christian Nazi Party.
Notwithstanding his honesty, the good Dean of St. Paul’s Cathedral was too short-sighted to see, lest admit, that the roots of violent anti-Semitism didn’t begin with Martin Luther, but in the very building blocks of his beloved religion. Was he ignorant of the vile and racist words of Justin Martyr, John Chrysostom and the majority of bigoted Christian fathers, who all railed against the Jews with the ferocious fervour of Hitler himself? Did he not read of the atrocities committed by St. Cyril of Alexandria in the fifth century that saw Jewish families put to the sword? Surely he had read of the Crusaders’ barbarism toward the Jews along the road to their bloodthirsty war with the equally bloodthirsty Muslims of the eleventh and twelfth centuries, and all of the countless anti-Semitic edicts enunciated by Church councils throughout the centuries, edicts all based upon the very foundations of a rotten and racist religion.
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 8:17-20
Presented in the illuminating light of its proper historical context, one can see that the rotten fruit of Nazi anti-Semitism was born from Hitler’s conviction in his Lord and saviour, Jesus Christ, and the poisonous tree of the Christian religion.
STALIN
Of these three characters, Stalin was the only confirmed atheist, yet Hitchens thoroughly dealt with the religious nature of Stalin’s dictatorship in a manner that has left religious apologists without sufficient reply. Notwithstanding the fact that Stalin was raised as a Christian under the religious influence of his mother, who enrolled him in seminary school, and that Stalin later took it upon himself to study for the priesthood, as Hitchens and others have pointed out, Stalin merely stepped into a ready-made religious tyranny, constructed by the Russian Orthodox Church and paved with the teachings of St. Paul.
Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. Romans 13:1-2
Such teachings were the inspirational well from which the Russian Orthodox Church drew their justifications to support this new Tsar, causing the more sensible fringe of the Church to flee to the United States in contravention of St. Paul’s teachings.
Here then, the central premise of Hitchens’ argument is worthy of reiteration. Had Stalin inherited a purely rational secular edifice, one established upon the ethos espoused by the likes of Lucretius, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Einstein and other free thinking and rational secularists, then the apologist’s argument would hold slightly more weight, but such wasn’t the case. Stalin merely tore the existing religious labels off the Christian Inquisition, the enforcement of Christian orthodoxy, the Crusades, the praising of the priesthood, messianism, and Edenic ideas of a terrestrial religious-styled utopia, and re-branded them with the red of communism. Had this Christian machine not been in place, then it is more than likely Stalin wouldn’t have had the vehicle he needed to succeed in causing so much suffering in the name of his godless religion, Communism.
To quote Hitchens:
For Joseph Stalin, who had trained to be a priest in a seminary in Georgia, the whole thing was ultimately a question of power. “How many divisions,” he famously and stupidly inquired, “has the pope?” (The true answer to his boorish sarcasm was, “More than you think.”) Stalin then pedantically repeated the papal routine of making science conform to dogma, by insisting that the shaman and charlatan Trofim Lysenko had disclosed the key to genetics and promised extra harvests of specially inspired vegetables. (Millions of innocents died of gnawing internal pain as a consequence of this “revelation.”) This Caesar unto whom all things were dutifully rendered took care, as his regime became a more nationalist and statist one, to maintain at least a puppet church that could attach its traditional appeal to his. [28]
I shan’t rehash Hitchens’ arguments in full, but if you would like to learn more about the details of his logically sound and beautifully crafted reply to this fallacious charge, I suggest you read chapter seventeen of his book, ‘God is Not Great – How Religion Poisons Everything.’
Hitchens was not alone in seeing the parallels between Russia’s old supernatural religion and its new secular one.
In Emilio Gentile’s ‘Politics as Religion,’ Gentile describes the sacralising of Stalin’s regime in the following words:
The sacralization of the party opened the way to the sacralization of Stalin when he became the supreme leader. After 1929, the political religion of Russia mainly concentrated on the deification of Stalin, who until his death in 1953 dominated the party and Soviet system like a tyrannical and merciless deity. [29]
That vast and seemingly bottomless “reservoir of religious credulity,” as Hitchens so eloquently phrased it, which served to subdue the servile Soviets for hundreds of years beneath the yoke of an equally brutal supernatural religion, was the very fountain of boundless unthinking acquiescence that Stalin, having adorned himself in the Tsar’s clothes, utilized to send countless innocent Russians to their deaths. Where would Stalin have found such docile servitude, servitude that fed the flames of his secular religious tyranny, had Lucretius, Thomas Paine, Albert Einstein or Thomas Jefferson bestowed upon these poor religious Russians, their intellectual legacy? To answer in a word, nowhere.
POL POT
Pol Pot, possibly not even an atheist, but almost certainly a Buddhist, believed in the teachings of the Buddha, no matter how perverted his interpretations may or may not have been. His violence, much like the violence of many earlier religionists, wasn’t the result of a lack of belief in a god, whether Zeus, Osiris, Yahweh, or the god-like Buddha of Mahayana Buddhism, but in the megalomaniacal belief that heaven or destiny was guiding him to improve the state of affairs for all those who could be forced to share his misguided utopian delusions. Not only was Pol Pot a Theravada Buddhist, but the soil in which his atrocities were sewn was also very Buddhist.
In Alexander Laban Hinton’s book, ‘Why Did They Kill?: Cambodia in the Shadow of Genocide,’ Hinton drew attention to the role that the belief in karma played in Pol Pot’s Cambodia, particularly with regards to the cementation of a docilely accepted social hierarchy, not too dissimilar from Stalin’s ready-made Russian religious tyranny, as well as highlighting the Buddhist origins of Pol Pot’s ideological initiatives.
Hinton remarks:
This [Pol Pot’s regime’s] line of thinking about revolutionary consciousness directly parallels Buddhist thought, with the “Party line” and “collective stand” being substituted for dhamma…One could certainly push this argument further , contending that the Khmer Rouge attempted to assume the monk’s traditional role as moral instructor (teaching their new brand of “mindfulness”) and that DK regime’s glorification of asceticism, detachment, the elimination of attachment and desire, renunciation (of material goods and personal behaviors, sentiments, and attitudes), and purity paralleled prominent Buddhist themes… [30]
I have only presented a small snippet of the available evidence that points to religion’s role in Pol Pot’s crimes, and there is not one single piece of solid evidence that Pol Pot was an atheist, so let us once and for all dispense with that speculative piece of religious propaganda. Pol Pot spent close to a decade at Catholic school and nearly as long studying at a Buddhist institution, so religious education was something he had in common with both Hitler and Stalin, but I would never use such data-mined facts to assert that religious education invariably inspires tyrants to commit atrocities, although a case for such a proposition could probably be made without committing too many logical and historical inaccuracies. I won’t even bother sharing the un-sourced quote from Prince Norodom Sihanouk that Christians present as “proof” that Pol Pot was an atheist, as its origin is not only dubious, but its contents reflect a belief in heaven, which, if genuine, negates any claim that Pol Pot was an atheist.
THE ATHEIST ATROCITIES FALLACY
The atheist atrocities fallacy is a multifaceted and multidimensional monster, comprised of a cocktail of illogically contrived arguments. It is, at its core, a tu quoque fallacy, employed to deflect justified charges of religious violence, by erroneously charging atheism with similar, if not worse, conduct. But it is much more than this, for within its tangled and mangled edifice can be found the false analogy fallacy, the poisoning of the well fallacy, the false cause fallacy, and even an implied slippery slope fallacy.
Tu quoque (“You Too”) Fallacy
The Tuquoque fallacy is an informal fallacy used to dismiss criticism by means of deflection. [31] Instead of addressing an accusation or charge, the perpetrator of this fallacy will offer an example of their opponent’s alleged hypocrisy with regards to the allegation. This is precisely how Christian apologists employ the atheist atrocities fallacy.
To give you an example of this fallacy in action, we need only examine the reply of renowned Christian apologist, Dinesh D’Souza, to charges of religious violence:
And who can deny that Stalinand Mao, not to mention Pol Potand a host of others, all committed atrocities in the name of a Communist ideology that was explicitly atheistic? [32]
“…it is interesting to find that people of faith now seek defensively to say that they are no worse than fascists or Nazis or Stalinists.” [33] ~Christopher Hitchens
This fallacy will be often employed with an added sprinkle of one-upmanship, with the apologist using the immense scale of secular atrocities to argue that atheism is worse than religion. However, if we were to honestly calculate those victims of ritual and religious sacrifice across the entire planet, the total number of witches burned and drowned across Europe and in America, the near genocides of the Pacific Islanders by the London Missionary Society, and similar missionary organizations, the dismembered bodies of the Saint Francis Xavier’s Inquisition in Goa, the disembowelled remains of the Anabaptists in Europe, the men, women and children murdered by Muslim conquerors from the Middle-East to Spain, the stoned and strangled blasphemers in Christian states of the past and Muslim ones of the modern age, and all of the unmarked graves of all of the victims of religion, from the dawn of that plague to now, I am quite certain that the numbers game would prove to be an unfruitful one for the desperate apologist.
This brings us to our next fallacy.
False Analogy Fallacy
This fallacy depends upon the existence of an often minor analogous factor, in this case, the belief in god versus a lack of belief in god, god being the analogous component, and extrapolating from this minor analogy, conditions that are alleged to affect both positions, when the truth of the matter happens to be, the two (religion and atheism) are not analogous at all. [34]
For apologists to overcome the existence of this fallacy, they must show that atheism is a religion, but the very definition of atheism circumvents any such attempt. Atheism, although encompassing varying degrees of disbelief, is not a system of beliefs, but an unsystematic absence of god-belief, that is all. It has no doctrines, traditions and most importantly, no beliefs. Unless there is some secret atheist bible from which Stalin drew inspiration for his crimes, there is absolutely no reason to suggest that his lack of belief in a supernatural deity had anything to do with his messianic and maniacal behaviour.
This takes us to the next fallacy in this medley of intellectually dishonest apologetics.
False Cause Fallacy
The fallacy of false cause occurs whenever the link between premise and conclusion
depends on some imagined causal connection that probably does not exist. [35]
Example 1:
Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot were all non-figure skaters. Therefore we can conclude that not being a figure skater causes a person to commit atrocities.
Example 2:
None of these three dictators believed in the existence of leprechauns, hence the lack of belief in leprechauns causes people to commit atrocities.
The imaginary atheist bible is a great hypothetical answer to this fallacy, yet such a collection of manuscripts does not exist, nor do any unwritten doctrines that a dictator who happens to lack belief in a god would be able to employ to commit such religious-styled atrocities. In the absence of any written or unwritten atheist doctrines, the apologist must show that a lack of belief in god was a causal factor in the atrocities committed, but to do so, they must conversely demonstrate that had these tyrants believed in a god, they wouldn’t have committed such crimes against humanity, which brings us right back to our Christian Inquisitions, Holy Crusades, missionary atrocities and all of the other dirt directly derived from religion that this fallacy attempts to quietly sweep under the rug.
Poisoning the Well Fallacy
When someone presents adverse information about, or associates unfavourable characters, characteristics or qualities with, a targeted person, or in this case, worldview (atheism), with the intention of undermining it, this is known as poisoning the well. “Stalin was an atheist, therefore atheism is dangerous.” By associating atheism with these three villains of history, the religious apologist is attempting to throw an unjustified negative light on atheism.
Aren’t atheists and anti-theists doing the same thing when they associate Christianity with the Spanish Inquisition? No. The Spanish Inquisition was directly caused and inspired by the very foundations of the Christian religion, i.e., the Bible and Church doctrines and traditions. The fallacy doesn’t exist when there is a legitimate association between the poison and its target.
To give you a hypothetical example of this legitimate association, just imagine that John smith has offered a friend of yours a too-good-to-be-true investment opportunity, and John has previously been convicted of fraud on multiple occasions. If you inform your friend about John’s prior convictions you are not poisoning the well, but stressing a legitimate association between the poison (fraud convictions) and the target (John Smith). Such association is certainly the case with the religious atrocities committed as a direct result of scripture, ecclesiastical edicts, tradition, and clerical authority.
[Implied] Slippery Slope Fallacy
The slippery slope fallacy is a species of the false cause fallacy that seeks to present a conclusion of an argument that is dependent upon an unlikely chain of events.
In Hurely’s Concise Introduction to Logic, he offers the following example:
Immediate steps should be taken to outlaw pornography once and for all. The continued manufacture and sale of pornographic material will almost certainly lead to an increase in sex-related crimes such as rape and incest. This in turn will gradually erode the moral fabric of society and result in an increase in crimes of all sorts. Eventually a complete disintegration of law and order will occur, leading in the end to the total collapse of civilization.
Because there is no good reason to think that the mere failure to outlaw pornography will result in all these dire consequences, this argument is fallacious.
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The more we become secularized and the more atheism is allowed to spread, the greater the chance of such horrendous atrocities occurring will be. This is the not so subtle inference of the atheist atrocities fallacy. I won’t bore you with statistics that show societies with higher rates of atheism are generally more peaceful; have higher standards of education, health and personal freedom, [37] as I have already pulled the first proposition in this “slippery slope” from beneath the starry-eyed apologist’s feet.
A FINAL WORD
So, what is the atheist atrocities fallacy, really? It is little more than erroneous historical data wrapped in illogical argumentation and cloaked with the rhetorical garb of apologetic propaganda. Yet and still, above all of this inanity, the atheist atrocities fallacy is the result of a psychological defence mechanism, the aim of which is the distortion of reality for the protection of the hypersensitive religious ego.
To finish, let me now surrender and admit defeat. You look puzzled. Please lend me just one more moment to explain my surrender.
Suppose the Christian apologist is correct, and atheist tyrants are worse than religious ones. What does this, from the point of view of the believer, show? What are the implications? On the one hand, you can interpret it to show that the more people believe in the Christian god, the more virtuous they will behave, despite the fact that the truth of history will laugh at such vacuous attempts to ignore its tomes of evidence to the contrary. On the other, what does it say about an all-powerful, all-knowing and all-loving god, one who allows tyrants, whether secular or religious, to murder helpless and innocent children by the millions, who turns a blind eye to the wrongful imprisonment of innocent men and women, and who starves to bare bones, the poor and meek?
Perhaps now you see that my surrender was but a Trojan horse, in which I smuggled Epicurus’ old, yet unanswered, problem of evil. I guess I could have just said that there is no way for a religious apologist to win this one. For if the atheist admits defeat, they still leave the faithful with the dissonance of evil, and as many theologians and philosophers have correctly concluded, freewill is no answer to such evil. But that is a story for another time.
 
I guess you @ForwardRetreat assume no one except you and your comrades can discern the difference between history and the present as well as that between thousands and millions? Well, it is indeed very telling! :)
This article talks about religion in general and its damaging effect on humankind. Your god is not unique in this matter. your fellow gods are equally detrimental.

THE HARMFUL INFUENCE OF RELIGION ON SOCIETY
Throughout history, religion has been a force for control, repression and authoritarianism. Examples include the Catholic Church’s attempts to suppress free speech with its Index of Prohibited Books, the wholesale persecution of purported witches throughout the Medieval and Early Modern periods in Europe and the New World, and the 15th Century forced conversion and repression of Jews and Muslims in Spain. As late as the 19th Century in England, atheists who had the temerity to openly advocate their beliefs were jailed, and even today laws still exist in many parts of the United States forbidding atheists from serving on juries or from holding public office.
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I wouldn't say that religion has promoted the social progress of mankind. I say that it has been a detriment to the progress of civilization, and I would also say this: that the emancipation of the mind from religious superstition is as essential to the progress of civilization as is
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emancipation from physical slavery.
- Culbert Olson (1961)

It has also been a reactionary force deeply opposed to intellectual and scientific advances. For example, for over a millennium (from the time of St. Augustine until the Renaissance), Christianity, the dominant religion in Europe, deliberately arrested the development of science and scientific thinking, limiting systematic investigation of the natural world to theological investigation. The scientific discoveries of the ancient Greeks and Egyptians were, as far as possible, suppressed and destroyed for centuries by the Christian Church, and were only later re-imported back into Europe via Middle Eastern sources. As a result, scientific knowledge progressed hardly at all during the so-called Dark Ages, and the populace was mired in the deepest squalor and ignorance.
Even when scientific investigation into the natural world resumed in the Renaissance of the 16th Century, organized Christianity did everything it could to stamp it out (the cases of Nicolas Copernicus, Galileo Galilei and Giordano Bruno are good example of this). The Church also opposed the introduction of the printing press, concerned that the scriptures and other knowledge would become easily available to the masses, thus by-passing the traditional vetting and interpretation of the clergy. Despite some significant back-pedalling, the conflict between religion and science continues today as Christian fundamentalists demand that their creation myth be taught in place of, or alongside, the theory of evolution in the public schools.
Religion has also been accused of the repression of literature and the freedom of the press, examples being the Catholic Church’s Index of Prohibited Books, the Muslim fatwa against author Salman Rushdie for his 1989 book “The Satanic Verses”, and violent Muslim demonstrations against the Danish cartoons depicting Mohammed in 2005.
Karl Marx saw religion as a political tool utilized by the oppressing ruling classes, arguing that it is in the interests of the ruling classes to instill in the masses the religious conviction that their current suffering will lead to eventual happiness, so that they will not attempt to make any genuine effort to understand and overcome the real source of their suffering. It was on this basis that he described religion as “the opium of the people”.
Some political leaders (such as the Egyptian Pharaohs, the deified Roman emperors and the Emperor of Japan) have taken this a step further, claiming to be the earthly embodiment of a god. Some controversial religious cults have also taken authoritarianism to a higher level, with cult leaders like Sun Myung Moon, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Raël and Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh establishing absolute, dictator-like powers over their members, to the extent of obtaining sexual gratification on demand, and in some cases leading members into bankruptcy, terrorist attacks and mass suicides.
It can also be argued that religions do tremendous harm to society through their use of war, violence and terrorism to promote their religious goals (to give just a few examples: the Crusades, the Jewish-Roman Wars, the French and other European wars of religion, the European and Russian pogroms against Jews, the Taiping Rebellion, the Mideast conflict between Israel and neighbouring Muslim countries, the Islamic Jihad, the Indo-Pakistani War after Partition, the “Troubles” in Northern Ireland, the Sri Lankan civil war, etc). Religious leaders often contribute to secular wars and terrorism by endorsing or supporting the violence, and, conversely, religious fervour is often exploited by secular leaders to support war and terrorism. In a world largely dominated by the religious moralities of various factions, we are still constantly beset by wars, injustice and brutality.
Women in particular have suffered at the hands of organized religion over the centuries. From the Biblical encouragement of the treatment of women as property to the barbarous witch hunts of medieval Europe to the Catholic crusade against birth control and abortion rights to the ghettoization and repression of women by Islam, women have been singled out for special treatment by the dominant religious groups. Some extremist faiths keep their girls and women ignorant of almost everything, believing that the only suitable occupations for women are marriage and motherhood.
Sex in general is often depreciated by religion, with some practices like homosexuality being the victim of outright hostility and sometimes violence, and many religions seem to have an unhealthy and rather anachronistic preoccupation with sex.
Some religions also come into direct conflict with both the medical profession and the law, and there are numerous accounts of faith-based healing practices (e.g. religious parents withholding medical care and relying on prayer to cure a child's disease) leading to harm and even death. The current pope, Benedict XVI, is on record in 2009 as defending the views of some of his cardinals that condoms in some unexplained way worsen the AIDS problem, and has claimed that the Catholic Church itself is “the most effective presence” in the battle agains HIV/AIDS. An archbishop in Mozambique has even claimed that European condom manufacturers are deliberately infecting condoms with HIV in order to spread AIDS in Africa.
The religious right is often responsible for some of the more radical invective against environmentalism, such as opposition to action on global warming and cavalier attitudes towards the extraction of oil and other natural resources. One high profile example comes in James Watt (Ronald Reagans’s Minister of the Interior in the early 1980s), who told the US Congress that protecting natural resources was unimportant in the light of the imminent return of Jesus Christ: “That is the delicate balance the Secretary of the Interior must have: to be steward for the natural resources for this generation as well as future generations. I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns.”
 
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