中国餐馆添加罂粟壳 是真是假？

[不懂就问问]

我不知道罂粟籽油有没有毒品。看罂粟籽绝对是含有毒品的，和禁止不禁止没有关系。大量用罂粟籽也相当于吸毒。

有什么成份和是不是毒品两回事，混为一谈的都是耍流氓
罂粟壳是提炼鸦片的原料，罂粟壳浸汤也是提炼鸦片的类似方法，所以中国才会明令禁止。你要是觉得没问题，上人大提交议案去
而罂粟籽不是提炼毒品的原料，所以中国允许作为食品调料。你要是信不过国家卫生部，也上人大抗议去
这里最莫明其妙的问题是，这跟洋人有什么关系？这是中国政府颁布的法令条例，明显违法的事情你为什么支持？“和禁止不禁止没有关系”，你确定？
承认自己说错了就这么难吗？为了反驳而反驳完全没有意义
好了我不再回复了

 

[salas88]

有什么成份和是不是毒品两回事，混为一谈的都是耍流氓
罂粟壳是提炼鸦片的原料，罂粟壳浸汤也是提炼鸦片的类似方法，所以中国才会明令禁止。你要是觉得没问题，上人大提交议案去
而罂粟籽不是提炼毒品的原料，所以中国允许作为食品调料。你要是信不过国家卫生部，也上人大抗议去
这里最莫明其妙的问题是，这跟洋人有什么关系？这是中国政府颁布的法令条例，明显违法的事情你为什么支持？“和禁止不禁止没有关系”，你确定？
承认自己说错了就这么难吗？为了反驳而反驳完全没有意义
好了我不再回复了

一心哥最大的问题就是自然流露出来一些东西，被人指出后，不是坚定立场据理力争，而是千方百计的找办法自己给自己圆，结果越圆越不圆

You got it?

 

[胡说芝]

一心哥最大的问题就是自然流露出来一些东西，被人指出后，不是坚定立场据理力争，而是千方百计的找办法自己给自己圆，结果越圆越不圆

是的。
他那个臭名昭著的多行不义必自毙讲出来被大家批评后，他千方百计给自己圆，结果越圆越不圆。。。
他帮贪腐分子背书的那个著名的不应期也是如此，为了帮贪腐分子开脱，搞出个不应期要3-4天。。。以后拼命圆也圆不了

最近那个9%的小坡停不住，本来是很稀松平常的小事，他停不住也不丢脸，非要圆来圆去拉不下翔怪洗手间。。。
今天这个罂粟壳一样的一心行为。。。扯吧圆吧
一心，你也不想想，CFC群众的脑子是在自己肩膀上的，你在那里瞎圆，大家就听你忽悠了？你还真把自己当小沈阳啊

 

[一心无住]

有什么成份和是不是毒品两回事，混为一谈的都是耍流氓
罂粟壳是提炼鸦片的原料，罂粟壳浸汤也是提炼鸦片的类似方法，所以中国才会明令禁止。你要是觉得没问题，上人大提交议案去
而罂粟籽不是提炼毒品的原料，所以中国允许作为食品调料。你要是信不过国家卫生部，也上人大抗议去
这里最莫明其妙的问题是，这跟洋人有什么关系？这是中国政府颁布的法令条例，明显违法的事情你为什么支持？“和禁止不禁止没有关系”，你确定？
承认自己说错了就这么难吗？为了反驳而反驳完全没有意义
好了我不再回复了

承认错了没什么难的。一个使用违法，一个使用不违法，我错误地同样看待了。
我之所以说洋人，是因为：1洋人报道中餐馆在先。2我在国内的时候从来没见过谁吃罂粟籽（罂粟籽油不算），在国外见到很多面包都有罂粟籽的。它也是含有毒品的。看到我上面的链接了吗？喝罂粟籽茶，毒品摄入过量也死人。

 

[一心无住]

一心哥最大的问题就是自然流露出来一些东西，被人指出后，不是坚定立场据理力争，而是千方百计的找办法自己给自己圆，结果越圆越不圆

我圆什么了？罂粟壳和罂粟籽都含有毒品，使用过量都High，都死人。只不过一个违法，一个不违法，这是我之前不知道的。
你如果不相信罂粟籽茶喝多了死人，你试试？

点击：Poppy Seed Tea
Q: I read all of these stories about people obtaining opiate-like highs from some sort of preparation of poppy seeds. Is such a thing really possible? I knew about the false positive the seeds can give on drug tests, but are they actually psychoactive?

A: Yes, many poppy seeds that are sold in grocery stores are the seeds of P. somniferum, the opium poppy. These seeds contain small quantities of psychoactive opiates, primarily morphine. Some people make tea out of relatively large quantities of poppy seeds in order to get the effects of the morphine. Following are details about a poppy seed tea related death which provide more information about the quantities of opiates present in poppy seeds and the related potential dangers associated with the ingestion of such tea.

In November 2005, we were contacted by a woman who reported that her son died in 2003 after consuming poppy seed tea. She and her family created a web site (poppyseedtea.com or Erowid cache) with details about the death including the coroner's report, which identified the amount of morphine found in her son's blood and urine during autopsy, as well as lab analysis results of a similar batch of poppy seed tea. The coroner's report found 210 ng/mL morphine in her son's blood and 1880 ng/mL in urine.

In this case, the seeds were purchased in bulk at a natural foods grocery store. Between 2.5 and 3 pounds of seeds were soaked in warm water with the juice of three lemons, for an hour. It was then mixed with honey to make it drinkable. Two liters of tea were consumed, leading to death (we don't know how much total water was used with the 2.5-3 lbs of seeds).

Following his death, a similar batch of tea was made, following the same recipe. This batch was submitted for testing by the coroner. Lab testing results found that this tea contained 259 ug/ml morphine. Codeine and hydrocodone were also detected. According to these numbers, assuming the tea he ingested had the same morphine concentration as the tested batch, the 2 liters he consumed would have contained around 519 mg of morphine. This is a very high dose. Pharmaceutical morphine (hydrochloride salt) comes in tablets ranging from 10 to 60 mg.

The autopsy also found therapeutic levels (those associated with the ingestion of normal therapeutic doses) of a number of other chemicals including: desmethylsertraline, diphenhydramine, and alprazolam...as well as low levels of bupropion and delta-9-carboxy-THC. While none of these appear to be significantly related to his death, it can't be ruled out that they could have contributed in some way to it.

Asked By : Stone
Answered By : fire
Published Date : 5 / 1 / 2006
Last Edited Date : 3 / 25 / 2014
Question ID : 3107
Categories: [ Poppies ] [ Opium & Poppies ] [ Cultivation ]

 

[一心无住]

是的。
他那个臭名昭著的多行不义必自毙讲出来被大家批评后，他千方百计给自己圆，结果越圆越不圆。。。
他帮贪腐分子背书的那个著名的不应期也是如此，为了帮贪腐分子开脱，搞出个不应期要3-4天。。。以后拼命圆也圆不了

最近那个9%的小坡停不住，本来是很稀松平常的小事，他停不住也不丢脸，非要圆来圆去拉不下翔怪洗手间。。。
今天这个罂粟壳一样的一心行为。。。扯吧圆吧
一心，你也不想想，CFC群众的脑子是在自己肩膀上的，你在那里瞎圆，大家就听你忽悠了？你还真把自己当小沈阳啊

你除了造谣就是诬蔑。
今天这事，我圆什么了？我只是说罂粟籽也含有毒品，过量了也能吃死人，我给了权威网站的链接，不信你喝喝罂粟籽茶试试？

点击：Poppy Seed Tea
Q: I read all of these stories about people obtaining opiate-like highs from some sort of preparation of poppy seeds. Is such a thing really possible? I knew about the false positive the seeds can give on drug tests, but are they actually psychoactive?

A: Yes, many poppy seeds that are sold in grocery stores are the seeds of P. somniferum, the opium poppy. These seeds contain small quantities of psychoactive opiates, primarily morphine. Some people make tea out of relatively large quantities of poppy seeds in order to get the effects of the morphine. Following are details about a poppy seed tea related death which provide more information about the quantities of opiates present in poppy seeds and the related potential dangers associated with the ingestion of such tea.

In November 2005, we were contacted by a woman who reported that her son died in 2003 after consuming poppy seed tea. She and her family created a web site (poppyseedtea.com or Erowid cache) with details about the death including the coroner's report, which identified the amount of morphine found in her son's blood and urine during autopsy, as well as lab analysis results of a similar batch of poppy seed tea. The coroner's report found 210 ng/mL morphine in her son's blood and 1880 ng/mL in urine.

In this case, the seeds were purchased in bulk at a natural foods grocery store. Between 2.5 and 3 pounds of seeds were soaked in warm water with the juice of three lemons, for an hour. It was then mixed with honey to make it drinkable. Two liters of tea were consumed, leading to death (we don't know how much total water was used with the 2.5-3 lbs of seeds).

Following his death, a similar batch of tea was made, following the same recipe. This batch was submitted for testing by the coroner. Lab testing results found that this tea contained 259 ug/ml morphine. Codeine and hydrocodone were also detected. According to these numbers, assuming the tea he ingested had the same morphine concentration as the tested batch, the 2 liters he consumed would have contained around 519 mg of morphine. This is a very high dose. Pharmaceutical morphine (hydrochloride salt) comes in tablets ranging from 10 to 60 mg.

The autopsy also found therapeutic levels (those associated with the ingestion of normal therapeutic doses) of a number of other chemicals including: desmethylsertraline, diphenhydramine, and alprazolam...as well as low levels of bupropion and delta-9-carboxy-THC. While none of these appear to be significantly related to his death, it can't be ruled out that they could have contributed in some way to it.

Asked By : Stone
Answered By : fire
Published Date : 5 / 1 / 2006
Last Edited Date : 3 / 25 / 2014
Question ID : 3107
Categories: [ Poppies ] [ Opium & Poppies ] [ Cultivation ]

 

[胡说芝]

你除了造谣就是诬蔑。
今天这事，我圆什么了？我只是说罂粟籽也含有毒品，过量了也能吃死人，我给了权威网站的链接，不信你喝喝罂粟籽茶试试？

帖子在这里楼在这里你的所有发言在这里，我造你什么谣谁能造你什么谣？。。。可见你已经习惯把不同看法当成造谣和污蔑，其实你只要看一看65楼不懂就问问的发言就可以了

我没喝过Poppy Seed 茶， 但是我吃过太多Poppy Seed 麻粉了。。。道理很简单：我相信加拿大的食品管理

 

[一心无住]

帖子在这里楼在这里你的所有发言在这里，我造你什么谣谁能造你什么谣？。。。可见你已经习惯把不同看法当成造谣和污蔑，其实你只要看一看65楼不懂就问问的发言就可以了

我没喝过Poppy Seed 茶， 但是我吃过太多Poppy Seed 麻粉了。。。道理很简单：我相信加拿大的食品管理

那你见过谁吃了带罂粟壳的中餐馆就上瘾了？

 

[familyman]

那你见过谁吃了带罂粟壳的中餐馆就上瘾了？

没见过就代表没有？你不应期了，全世界都不能啪啪啪？

 

[一心无住]

帖子在这里楼在这里你的所有发言在这里，我造你什么谣谁能造你什么谣？。。。可见你已经习惯把不同看法当成造谣和污蔑，其实你只要看一看65楼不懂就问问的发言就可以了

我没喝过Poppy Seed 茶， 但是我吃过太多Poppy Seed 麻粉了。。。道理很简单：我相信加拿大的食品管理

你们几个，你、臭、宅男都是在替洋大人争论，你们骨子里只有洋人是对的，所以你们根本不讲道理，全是谩骂攻击造谣。而 @不懂就问问 是在讲道理，他拿出了法律和我讲理，我才知道一个违法，一个不违法。

 

[臭农民]

一心哥最大的问题就是自然流露出来一些东西，被人指出后，不是坚定立场据理力争，而是千方百计的找办法自己给自己圆，结果越圆越不圆

自然流露四个字用的到位，本色表演是后来圆啊圆的时候。。

 

[臭农民]

你们几个，你、臭、宅男都是在替洋大人争论，你们骨子里只有洋人是对的，所以你们根本不讲道理，全是谩骂攻击造谣。而 @不懂就问问 是在讲道理，他拿出了法律和我讲理，我才知道一个违法，一个不违法。

说你白痴吧还真没错，你那些个论点论据，还不是洋人放的零星散屁？在我眼里，只有对错，洋人算个屁啊

 

[行行行]

就一般在汤里在火锅里放一两个壳做调料，完全没有问题，比桂皮八角更健康，这两种东西也有毒性。
老父是中医，他的药铺子就有这味药，我们经常拿这个做调料。这个壳外观像这里超市卖的蜜枣，表面都是一道一道细小的划痕，已被提炼过鸦片的。

 

[贵圈]

就一般在汤里在火锅里放一两个壳做调料，完全没有问题，比桂皮八角更健康，这两种东西也有毒性。
老父是中医，他的药铺子就有这味药，我们经常拿这个做调料。这个壳外观像这里超市卖的蜜枣，表面都是一道一道细小的划痕，已被提炼过鸦片的。

欢迎专家。你觉得有瘾头吗？没这料是不是不好吃？去馆子吃的时候，你能够判断加没加吗？

 

[行行行]

欢迎专家。你觉得有瘾头吗？没这料是不是不好吃？去馆子吃的时候，你能够判断加没加吗？

有淡瘾啊，但不是非吃不可，不吃就活不下去了。酒桌上有一两样加了这个东西的卤菜什么的，喝酒特别开心
加了很好吃，有种说不出的好吃感觉，还有这个东西不能把不好吃的变好吃，它只能好上加好，你本身就得做好味道，加上它是锦上添花。有时候感觉卤菜很好吃，我们就问老妈加了鸦片壳没有？－－笑着回答：这次没有。
据我所知，有些餐馆用，但是一般大的知名的餐馆不会用这个。我个人的经验是辣的味道重的菜容易添加这个，四川境内的很多餐馆用。
金三角阿富汗等鸦片产区的老百姓家家户户都有鸦片膏，平时大人小孩感冒发烧什么的抠一坨吃了就好，都不用药的这个是听说的哈！但是有一件真事，我祖母当年逃日本难时，路上拉痢疾，快不行了，有人从鸦片枪里挑出一些鸦片屎（长年吸鸦片在枪里积累的烟诟），吃了，第二天就好了，就这么神奇。所以，我父亲当医生后，他开的药方里有的时候也用到这个，越是疑难杂症越用
话说当年的日本人真坏呀，我祖父一家老小还有一大群逃难的老百姓被日本人从湖北追到了湖南湘西山里。我祖母讲，当年逃难就看到河对面日本兵把没来得及逃过河的中国人，绑到板凳上用刀刺死。