人机大战第二局：AlphaGo又赢了，2:0领先李世石

[ottawa_it_blue_collar]

过十年八年的机器人就开始改造人类了。

人工智能已经在改变大伙的生活了。。。

 

[ottawa_it_blue_collar]

据说计算机设计的程序不会打劫。所以双方事先约好不许用打劫。就如同比武双方，一方帮了一条胳膊去比。李大师才败下阵来。俺的围棋水平0.5段。不知此传说真假。

打劫是个难事么？

 

[2016]

据说计算机设计的程序不会打劫。所以双方事先约好不许用打劫。就如同比武双方，一方绑死了一条胳膊去比。李大师才败下阵来。俺的围棋水平才0.5段。不知此传说真假。

这个'据说'不可信, 计算机不可能那么笨. 打劫这种规则清楚的算法, 恰恰是计算机的强项...

 

[lindamy]

过十年八年的机器人就开始改造人类了。

比如现在一大半人不需要学摄影技术，当傻瓜就行了，以前要对光圈，焦距。。。
以后可能很多事都交给程序员预设员为大家预设好行了。生活中许多事比下棋简单多了，当然也有很多更复杂的事，很难遵循预设的规则，需要人脑随机判断。

 

[牧歌]

计算机的学习开发能力比人更有优势

 

[冷笑9声]

GEEK搞出来的东西, 下棋有个鸟用.

哪天能发明个机器人上大街上泡个妞回来, 哥就服了 ...

那个早年的深蓝就行。。。背一背棋谱，搜一搜智能库，就那几招，胆大是王道，玩不出新花活。
这个阿法狗玩的是个格局很大的游戏，能够思考人类想都没想过的变化。。

 

[uglyducking]

下棋只是验证算法，同样的算法可以用在各种地方。。。
加拿大人民太落后了！只知道卖资源多招政府工。。。

就是啊，应该买资源买机器人。

 

[uglyducking]

这个'据说'不可信, 计算机不可能那么笨. 打劫这种规则清楚的算法, 恰恰是计算机的强项...

大姐浪费时间浪费生命。

 

[9981]

据说计算机设计的程序不会打劫。所以双方事先约好不许用打劫。就如同比武双方，一方绑死了一条胳膊去比。李大师才败下阵来。俺的围棋水平才0.5段。不知此传说真假。

that was quoted by Chinese media from chat room rumors and jokes.

In the english version, the host mentioned many times alphago didn't choose to do ko.

https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments/43g2jl/synopsis_of_myungwan_kims_analysis_of_fan_hui_vs/

On the fifth game, Myungwan Kim says AlphaGo was winning from the beginning here. They marvel at AlphaGo's decision to enter a Ko fight, but they're not sure whether AlphaGo really knew what it was doing or if it just got 'lucky' that the Ko worked in its favour.

Myungwan Kim points out AlphaGo made a huge mistake early in this game, but was saved because not long after Fan Hui made an equally huge mistake. But this is an example where he thinks a real grandmaster like Lee Sedol would not have allowed AlphaGo to get away with the kind of mistake it made there.

AlphaGo's Strengths and Weaknesses:

Myungwan Kim lists AlphaGo's strengths:

• It's not afraid of Ko.
  
  
• Reading might be AlphaGo's strength.
  

Myungwan Kim lists AlphaGo's weaknesses:

• Doesn't understand sente and gote, as explained earlier.
  
  
• At times too obsessed with following common patterns, when the specific situation might require creative deviation from those patterns. Also explained earlier.
  
  
• It doesn't understand Aji.
  
  
• Myungwan Kim thinks AlphaGo has difficulty, or even doesn't at all, evaluating the value of specific stones. It's good at making moves which directly gain territory for itself, but tends to miss moves which reduce the value of the opponent's stones.
  
  
• It can make really high level moves at times, but it doesn't understand those moves. Which it displays by making the right moves at the wrong time.
  

 

[小地主]

下棋只是验证算法，同样的算法可以用在各种地方。。。
加拿大人民太落后了！只知道卖资源多招政府工。。。

它的那个算法应该有很多简化的rules，只针对围棋的。。离通用化还远。。

 

[肥猫]

这场比赛的结果将是5：0。

没有任何悬念。

以后中日韩三国围棋赛得变成中日韩狗四方争霸赛

 

[做人要仁道]

估计围棋界已然开锅了，
李昌镐， 曹大元，估计都给李世石支招想辄呢。

这要是李世石败给了狗， 围棋界颜面尽失。 估计都轮不到 柯洁上去和狗打架了。

 

[做人要仁道]

说句实在的， 个人感觉李世石 棋下得有些保守，
他太看重得失，压力很大，下得畏首畏尾，畏惧于电脑的强大计算力，
不敢正面搏杀，大胆断吃，左上打入无功而返，中盘下得很是保守

时间太短，计算不清，也可能是个根本问题。

 

[darius]

GEEK搞出来的东西, 下棋有个鸟用.

哪天能发明个机器人上大街上泡个妞回来, 哥就服了 ...

机器人要是有房有车有存款，这应该不成问题

 

[和菜头]

GEEK搞出来的东西, 下棋有个鸟用.

哪天能发明个机器人上大街上泡个妞回来, 哥就服了 ...

下棋比泡妞容易吗？