这次美国总统选举如何收场?

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Trump: 'We should just cancel the election' and declare me the winner
By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
Updated 6:56 PM ET, Thu October 27, 2016

Trump: Cancel the election and declare me the winner

Toledo, Ohio (CNN)Donald Trump, trailing his opponent in key battleground states polls less than two weeks from Election Day, said Thursday he'd like to "cancel the election" and be declared the winner.

"Just thinking to myself right now, we should just cancel the election and just give it to Trump," the Republican presidential nominee said during a rally here on Thursday.

"Her policies are so bad. Boy, do we have a big difference," he added of his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.
The apparently lighthearted comment falls against the backdrop of Trump's repeated and serious questioning of the legitimacy of the presidential election in recent weeks as he has tumbled in the polls.
Trump has called the election "rigged," argued that the media and establishment politicians are conspiring to sink his campaign and warned supporters that the presidency could be stolen from them due to voter fraud -- instances of which are extremely rare.

Trump is trailing Clinton in national tracking polls and in key battleground states, and its unclear how Trump can amass the Electoral College votes needed to win the presidency if polls hold where they are through Election Day.

Trump's comments about the election also came as he mocked Clinton as "low energy" for the second time in as many days, even polling the crowd to ask them if they think Clinton or his GOP primary foil Jeb Bush is more "low energy."

"Who is more low energy, Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton?" Trump asked the crowd, re-upping a question he said Fox News host Bill O'Reilly asked him earlier in an interview airing Thursday evening.

"Hillary!" replied most of the crowd.

Trump had repeatedly mocked Bush, the very early favorite to win the GOP presidential nomination, as "low energy" during the primary contest and has repeatedly argued that Clinton does not have the "strength or stamina" to serve as president. On Thursday, he referred to her as "very low energy."

 

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Some Donald Trump Voters Warn of Revolution if Hillary Clinton Wins
By ASHLEY PARKER and NICK CORASANITIOCT. 27, 2016

A campaign rally for Donald J. Trump in St. Augustine, Fla., on Monday. Credit Eric Thayer for The New York Times

COLORADO SPRINGS — Big crowds still mob Donald J. Trump when he comes to town, with fans waiting in long lines to attend his rallies, where they eagerly jeer his Democratic rival and holler happily at his message.

But beneath the cheering, a new emotion is taking hold among some Trump supporters as they grapple with reports predicting that he will lose the election: a dark fear about what will happen if their candidate is denied the White House. Some worry that they will be forgotten, along with their concerns and frustrations. Others believe the nation may be headed for violent conflict.

Jared Halbrook, 25, of Green Bay, Wis., said that if Mr. Trump lost to Hillary Clinton, which he worried would happen through a stolen election, it could lead to “another Revolutionary War.”

“People are going to march on the capitols,” said Mr. Halbrook, who works at a call center. “They’re going to do whatever needs to be done to get her out of office, because she does not belong there.”

Interviews with more than 50 Trump supporters at campaign events in six states over the past week revealed a distinct change from the rollicking mood earlier this year, when Mr. Trump’s surprising primary successes and emergence as an unconventional Republican standard-bearer set off broad excitement. The crowds appeared on edge and quick to lash out.

And while some voters emphatically disputed polls suggesting that Mrs. Clinton would win, others offered an apocalyptic vision of what life would be like if she did.

“It’s not what I’m going to do, but I’m scared that the country is going to go into a riot,” said Roger Pillath, 75, a retired teacher from Coleman, Wis. “I’ve never seen the country so divided, just black and white — there’s no compromise whatsoever. The Clinton campaign says together we are stronger, but there’s no together. The country has never been so divided. I’m looking at revolution right now.”

Roger Pillath, a Trump supporter, at his home in Coleman, Wis. “It’s not what I’m going to do,” he said of what might happen if Hillary Clinton wins, “but I’m scared that the country is going to go into a riot.” Credit Lauren Justice for The New York Times
Julie Olson, a rancher who showed up for a rally in Colorado Springs, said that she and her husband had been through rough economic times in recent years, and that a Trump loss would worsen their burdens.

“I’d probably go into a depression, because life is hard enough for us right now,” Ms. Olson, 69, said. “And if Hillary gets in, it’s going to be a whole lot worse — income, lack of income, small business, large businesses.”

New York Times reporters spoke to people attending Trump rallies in Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. In every crowd, there were supporters who echoed Mr. Trump’s message that the polls did not reflect the “silent majority” who they said would turn out on Nov. 8 and elect him in a landslide.

“You go through any neighborhood and see how many Trump signs there are and how many Hillary signs there are, and I guarantee you it’s not even going to be close,” said Bill Stelling, 44, of Jacksonville, Fla. “The only way they’ve done it is by rigging the election.”

An information diet from Trump-friendly news media like Breitbart News and Infowars has led many to believe that there is no way Mr. Trump can lose, and that even contemplating the possibility is foolish. “I’d be shocked,” said Rick Hill, 58, of Fort Myers, Fla.

Mr. Hill added, “If you get on social media, he’s got Hillary beat, 3 to 1.”

But others expressed unease about what a Trump loss would bring.

“Unfortunately, I’m not a man of vigilante violence,” said Richard Sabonjohn, 48, of Naples, Fla. “I’m more of a peaceful person. But I do think there will be a large amount of people that are terribly upset and may take matters into their own hands.”

Mr. Trump has repeatedly called the election “rigged,” raised concerns about voter fraud and said that he might not accept the results if he lost, making Democrats and Republicans alike worry whether the transfer of power will be smooth.

Even some of his supporters who say they would peacefully accept Mrs. Clinton as the next president fear that the nation will take a violent turn — especially if Mrs. Clinton tries to infringe on Second Amendment rights.

Paul Swick, 42, who owns a moving business, went with his wife and daughter to see Mr. Trump speak in Green Bay last week. Mr. Swick considers himself a “Bible Christian” and “Thomas Jefferson liberal,” and said he hoped to beat Mrs. Clinton “at the ballot box.”

But Mr. Swick, by his own estimation, also owns “north of 30 guns,” and he said Mrs. Clinton would have trouble if she tried to confiscate the nation’s constitutionally protected weapons. (Mrs. Clinton has said she supports the Second Amendment, but she favors certain restrictions, like tighter background checks for gun buyers.)

“If she comes after the guns, it’s going to be a rough, bumpy road,” Mr. Swick said. “I hope to God I never have to fire a round, but I won’t hesitate to. As a Christian, I want reformation. But sometimes reformation comes through bloodshed.”

Alan Weegens, 62, a retired truck driver in Colorado Springs, also wondered aloud how the country — with so many citizens who own guns and, he said, “are willing to trample a grandma on Black Friday at midnight to save $5 on a toaster” — would react if Mr. Trump lost.

“I am not going to take my weapon to go out into the streets to protest an election I did not win,” Mr. Weegens said, “but I think that if certain events came about, a person would need to protect themselves, depending on where they lived, when your neighborhood goes up in flames.”

Asked what might cause such a conflagration, he pointed to places like Ferguson, Mo., and Charlotte, N.C., which have been hit by unrest after police shootings of black men, and said, “Because hungry people get mean.”

As Mrs. Clinton pulls away in many polls, some Trump voters found it difficult even to contemplate what a Clinton presidency would be like for them.

“I’d go home and cry for four years,” said Ken Herrmann, 69, of Punta Gorda, Fla.

Kathy Maney, 61, a hairstylist from Fletcher, N.C., used the language of love lost. “I won’t feel hatred or mad or anything like that, but my heart will be broken,” she said.

And Vicki Sanger, 40, of Grand Junction, Colo., said she had more practical concerns. “I would just be scared that Hillary would be impeached before she finishes her term,” she said.

But, Ms. Sanger added, she will accept the outcome on Election Day. “I would absolutely respect the result and support the next president,” she said. “Pray for the next president, whoever it is.”

 

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Suspect arrested in vandalism of Donald Trump's Hollywood Walk of Fame star
Jamie Otis detained by Los Angeles police Thursday on suspicion of felony vandalism
The Associated Press Posted: Oct 27, 2016 12:14 PM ET Last Updated: Oct 27, 2016 12:48 PM ET

Pedestrians walk past a cordoned off area surrounding the vandalized star for Republican U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Wednesday, in Los Angeles. Police arrested Jamie Otis on suspicion of felony vandalism Thursday. (Richard Vogel/AP Photo)

Los Angeles police arrested a man suspected of using a sledgehammer and a pickaxe to destroy U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, officials said Thursday.

Jamie Otis was taken into custody early Thursday on suspicion of felony vandalism, Officer Andrew Chambers said. It wasn't immediately known if he has an attorney.

Trump listens to speeches after he was honoured with the 2327th star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in January 2007. (Gabriel Bouys/AFP/Getty Images)

Investigators were called to the popular tourist attraction before dawn Wednesday after reports of a man smashing Trump's sidewalk plaque.

Otis told several media outlets that he originally intended to remove the star.

He said he wanted to auction off pieces of the star to raise funds for the 11 women accusing the presidential candidate of groping them. Trump has denied the groping allegations and threatened to sue his accusers.

Video captures pre-dawn attack
A video posted on Deadline Hollywood Wednesday appears to show the incident as it happened.



The Hollywood Chamber of Commerce, which bestows the stars and maintains the popular tourist attraction, said it would take several days to repair Trump's spot.

Trump's star was dedicated in 2007 in recognition of his work on NBC's reality TV show The Apprentice. Trump's star is near the Dolby Theatre, where the Academy Awards are held each year.

To receive a star on the Walk of Fame, a celebrity has to be nominated and a $30,000 US fee paid to a charitable trust.

Focus of protest
It's not the first time Trump's monument on the popular tourist boulevard has been the focus of political protest.

In July, a Los Angeles artist built a miniature border wall around the sidewalk plaque to spoof Trump's pledge to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico. The 15-centimetre-tall structure was complete with barbed wire, "Keep out" signs, and American flags.

The Hollywood Walk of Fame star of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is surrounded by a miniature wall topped by barbed wire, placed there by Californian street artist Plastic Jesus in Hollywood on July 20. (Mark Ralston/AFP/Getty Images)

"When people are unhappy with one of our honorees, we would hope that they would project their anger in more positive ways than to vandalize a California State landmark," Hollywood Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Leron Gubler wrote in a statement.

"Our democracy is based on respect for the law. People can make a difference by voting and not destroying public property."

 

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[29181]

再打场civil war.

 

[New Person]

真要上井冈山了

 

[明的凡]

"The apparently lighthearted comments ..."

 

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Trump can’t just be defeated. He must be humiliated
By Dana Milbank Opinion writer
October 21
PHOENIX

Donald Trump is running against democracy itself.

Here, in the land of Barry Goldwater, democracy is fighting back.

Only once since 1948 has Arizona gone Democratic in a presidential election, and that was the Ross Perot-skewed 1996 contest. But Trump’s manifold charms — most recently his threat to ignore the results of the election — have given Hillary Clinton a five-point lead in this red state, according to a new Arizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News poll. Disgust with Trump sent thousands of white, black and brown Arizonans on Thursday afternoon into the Phoenix Convention Center (where Trump weeks ago pledged mass deportation of illegal immigrants) to hear Michelle Obama denounce Trump’s assault on the democratic process.

“We are fortunate to live in a country where the voters decide our elections,” the first lady said. “The voters decide who wins and loses. Period. End of story. And when a presidential candidate threatens to ignore our voices and reject the outcome of this election, he is threatening the very idea of America itself, and we cannot stand for that. We do not keep American democracy ‘in suspense.’ ”

The crowd roared its approval.

Obama’s speech (she crossed the country to give the remarks, then immediately flew back to Washington) is part of a push by the Clinton campaign to expand the electoral battleground into reliably Republican states such as Texas, Georgia, Utah, Alaska and, particularly, Arizona, that have been put into play by Trump’s outrages. The Clinton campaign, which already has 32 offices and 160 staffers in Arizona, announced this week that it is spending an additional $2 million here and dispatched Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Chelsea Clinton and the first lady to campaign in the state. The campaign is considering sending the candidate herself.

As a matter of math, Arizona is irrelevant: If Clinton is doing well enough to win here, she will already have locked up the election elsewhere. But if Trump is to be denied in his bid to subvert democratic institutions by claiming a rigged election, he needs to be defeated resoundingly, removing all doubt. Clinton needs to run up the score.

The need to deal Trump a humiliating defeat has a sociological basis in the “degradation ceremony,” in which the perpetrator (Trump) is held by denouncers (officeholders and others in positions of influence) to be morally unacceptable, and witnesses (the public) agree that the perpetrator is no longer held in good standing.

Psychologist Wynn Schwartz, who teaches at Harvard Medical School, explained to me that what’s needed to have a successful degradation of Trump is an epic defeat. “If it is lopsided enough,” he said, “you don’t have critical masses of people who feel disenfranchised” or “who feel justified in saying that it was stolen.”

But if Clinton’s victory is narrow, the degradation ceremony fails, because a large chunk of the population feels swindled and remains loyal to Trump. “The margin matters a lot,” Schwartz said.

Trump’s recent actions — talking about a “rigged” election while laying the foundation for a Trump TV network — suggest that he will attempt to defy the degradation ceremony that a loss typically confers. Hence the importance of a landslide.

Arizona would offer an ideal rebuke. Carolyn Goldwater Ross, granddaughter of the conservative icon, introduced Obama on Thursday by saying, “I come from a long line of Republicans and I’ve stayed independent. . . . But this time it’s different.” She submitted that Trump violates her grandfather’s “basic values.”

Apparently, many Arizonans agree. Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the anti-immigrant icon and Trump backer, is trailing his Democratic opponent by 15 points in polling by the Republic. The newspaper endorsed Clinton, its first embrace of a Democrat for president in its 126-year history. Arizona’s junior Republican senator, Jeff Flake, is an outspoken Trump critic, its senior Republican senator, John McCain, has been attacked by Trump, and former Republican attorney general Grant Woods has endorsed Clinton.

A growing Latino population has the state trending gradually Democratic, but not enough to put Arizona in play in 2016 in ordinary circumstances. That’s all about Trump.

“Trump accelerated what’s happening anyway,” Moises Mejia, a Mexican-born engineer at Thursday’s rally, told me. Mejia, who took one of his sons out of school to attend the rally, said he comes from a Republican family and agrees “with the Republicans’ principles, but they’ve taken it so far they’ve lost a lot of us in the middle.”

The first lady, in her fiery speech, reached out to Republicans offended by Trump’s disregard for the democratic process. “Our democracy is revered around the world, and free elections are the best way on Earth to choose our leaders,” she said. “This is how we elected John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, two George Bushes, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.”

That’s right. This isn’t Trump vs. Clinton but Trump vs. Democracy. And the way to degrade the threat is to defeat Trump, convincingly.

 

[RareEarth]

humiliated 川普？ 川普不是一个人在战斗。 他敢说那些话，是因为背后有军人，警察，红脖，3K党。 如果希拉里能上台，她的政策必需很大程度满足川普支持者的要求，弥合同下层白人的裂痕

 

[uglyducking]

humiliated 川普？ 川普不是一个人在战斗。 他敢说那些话，是因为背后有军人，警察，红脖，3K党。 如果希拉里能上台，她的政策必需很大程度满足川普支持者的要求，弥合同下层白人的裂痕

Trump成了下层白人的代言人了？你信吗？我反正是信了。白这位，他还代言上帝。

 

[老闹子]

选举是民主政治的核心，推翻选举就是推翻民主政治制度。
输了就鼓励暴乱，这是一股邪气。估计大多数美国人现在只把他的言论当笑话看。一旦真有动作，正气肯定能够压住邪气。

 

[RareEarth]

Trump 现在是把邪火扇起来了。就象老毛煽动红卫兵一样。 这次竞选，上万人大活动搞了一百多场。
一定时间段，正气不一定能够压住邪气。 至于执政以后，能不能代表下层白人是另一回事。

Trump成了下层白人的代言人了？你信吗？我反正是信了。白这位，他还代言上帝。

 

[阿土仔]

洗那里如果是靠作弊赢的，那是要讨个公道。如果是正常赢的，那就没什么可说的，只有祝贺洗那里，虽然她是个瞎话篓子！政客也有政客的风度。