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Obama denies Trump's unsubstantiated claim that he wiretapped phones in Trump Tower
By Jordyn Phelps
Mar 4, 2017, 2:40 PM ET

A spokesman for former President Obama issued a strong denial to President Trump's unsubstantiated accusation that the former commander-in-chief wiretapped Trump Tower phones during the election campaign.

"A cardinal rule of the Obama administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice," Obama spokesman Kevin Lewis said in a statement Saturday. "As part of that practice, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false."
村长,截至目前,您觉得谁在说谎?
 
村长,截至目前,您觉得谁在说谎?

看了上面两篇文字,我感觉都没说谎。

特朗普是不懂相关法律和程序,推出来个奥巴马下令监听他的电话。想推就推,害死人啊。
 
看了上面两篇文字,我感觉都没说谎。

特朗普是不懂相关法律和程序,推出来个奥巴马下令监听他的电话。想推就推,害死人啊。
嗯,奥斑马又不是脑残,怎么会亲自下令干这事呢。要说是他的司法部长Lynch自作主张,那Lynch得多主动才能干这事啊。
 
嗯,奥斑马又不是脑残,怎么会亲自下令干这事呢。要说是他的司法部长Lynch自作主张,那Lynch得多主动才能干这事啊。

监听,必须经过法院批准(a FISA warrant)。
 
奥斑马又不是脑残,怎么会亲自下令干这事呢
我相信有可能,奥巴马玩窃听被逮住是有记录的:

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监听,必须经过法院批准(a FISA warrant)。
但是FISA几千个申请,只有4例没批准,所以批准肯定没问题。
这官司也不好打,Lynch一口咬定目的不是监视候选人,没法证明她说谎。而且也没法证明奥巴马看过了监听报告,况且没监听到什么可以爆料的,奥斑马也没必要看报告了。
 
你理解是错误的,奥巴马管不了国安局,FBI,CIA,的具体业务。美国情报机构窃听那个国家都很常规,德国的事闹大,是因为德国情报机构同美国合作,窃听本国总理



我相信有可能,奥巴马玩窃听被逮住是有记录的:

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最后编辑:
有一点是肯定的,俄罗斯驻美外交官的电话都是被监听的。那么,谁打电话给俄罗斯驻美外交官谁也就被监听了。
 
Spokesman Denies Obama Administration Wiretapped Trump
VOA, Last Updated: March 04, 2017 7:23 PM
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President Donald Trump arrives aboard Air Force One at Palm Beach International Airport in West Palm Beach, Fla., March 3, 2017.

WHITE HOUSE —
President Donald Trump's administration has not reacted to a spokesman's denial that former President Barack Obama ordered a telephone tap on Trump during the campaign before last year's U.S. elections.

Obama's spokesman issued a statement after a series of tweets by Trump early Saturday morning alleged that Obama "had my wires tapped in Trump Tower" in New York City before the November 2016 presidential election.

An aide to Obama said Trump's allegations were "simply false."

Trump did not cite any source for his claims, or provide any evidence that electronic surveillance occurred, but he likened the supposed intrusion on his privacy to the Watergate political scandal that eventually led to the 1974 resignation of former U.S. President Richard Nixon.

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The scandal began as a series of political "dirty tricks" aimed at the Democratic Party by Nixon's Republicans, and it expanded after a White House official disclosed that Nixon had authorized an extensive monitoring operation at the White House, recording a large number of telephone calls.

No official in the White House during the Obama administration "ever interfered with any investigation led by the Justice Department," said Kevin Lewis, a spokesman for the former president, emphasizing that prohibition was a "cardinal rule."

In a statement, Lewis said neither "President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false."

VOA asked White House officials for a comment on Saturday's developments but did not receive an immediate response. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department had any relevant statements.

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FILE - The Federal Bureau of Investigation headquarters in Washington.

FBI sought warrant

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) permits legal surveillance and collection of information between foreign countries and their agents.

The FBI sought and was granted in October a FISA court warrant for an investigation into suspected ties between Russia and people connected to the Trump campaign, according to two sources and previous news reports.

The Justice Department believed four Americans were "unwitting agents" of Russia; there was "probable cause they had been co-opted, and that was the basis for the warrant" granted by the court, according to a lawyer specializing in national security matters, Bradley Moss, who spoke with VOA.

An earlier similar request by the FBI, wider in scope, apparently had been made to the secret court four months earlier, but was rejected. "That's largely unheard of," Moss said.

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The FBI and other federal investigators "follow the facts, and the assumption was this was about money … and that would have gone through Trump Tower," added Moss, who is also the deputy executive director of the James Madison Project, an organization focused on promoting government accountability and reduction of secrecy.

Ben Rhodes, a former top national security aide to Obama, said in a Twitter message directed at Trump on Saturday that "no president can order a wiretap," and added, "Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you."

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The highest-ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Ben Cardin of Maryland, said if the Obama administration did monitor activities at Trump Tower, it would indeed have needed authorization from the FISA court.

"That's why we have the FISA courts," Cardin said Saturday on CNN. "The executive branch cannot act on its own. They must get the consent of a court before they can do those types of activities."

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FILE - Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., speaks with reporters in the Senate Press Gallery on Capitol Hill, in Washington, Nov. 15, 2016.

Graham 'very worried'

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, did not endorse Trump's claims but said Saturday that if the Trump campaign was wiretapped in New York, "it would be the biggest political scandal since Watergate."

"I'm very worried that our president is suggesting that the former president has done something illegally," Graham added at a boisterous town hall meeting in Clemson, South Carolina. "I would be very worried if, in fact, the Obama administration was able to obtain a warrant, lawfully, about Trump campaign activity with foreign governments. So it's my job as a United States senator to get to the bottom of this."

It is unknown whether Obama was aware in advance that his Justice Department was pursuing FISA court approvals.

"I certainly expect he would have been advised" at some stage, Moss said.

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FILE - Russia's ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak, speaks with reporters in Washington. Contacts with Kislyak are at the center of the latest controversy surrunding the Trump administration.

Meetings with Russian ambassador

It was disclosed earlier this week that Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak met at Trump Tower in New York in December with Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and with since-ousted national security adviser Michael Flynn. Flynn was fired after just 24 days on the job when information emerged that he had lied to top officials about the nature of his conversations with Kislyak.

Revelations of the Trump Tower meetings surfaced after Attorney General Jeff Sessions admitted earlier in the week he'd met twice with Kislyak during last year's presidential campaign.

Sessions had failed to disclose those talks during his Senate confirmation hearing. He has since said he would stay out of any federal investigation of alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and is expected to amend on Monday his written testimony response.

White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks said Thursday that the meetings at Trump Tower were intended to "establish a line of communication" between the incoming administration and the Russian ambassador. She added that Kushner also met with representatives of as many as two dozen other countries.

Investigations on the increase

U.S. government officials meet with representatives of foreign governments on many occasions and for many reasons. The Trump administration, however, had denied for months there was any contact between Russian officials and the new president's campaign.

On Friday, the Breitbart News website published a report about conservative radio host Mark Levin's allegation that Obama conducted what he called a "silent coup" against Trump by employing "police state" tactics. Trump's top strategic adviser at the White House, Stephen Bannon, previously had been executive chairman of Breitbart.

Trump's latest claims come as the Trump administration faces mounting pressure from multiple FBI and congressional investigations into contacts between members of his campaign team and Russian officials.

"I still don't know if there's any fire, but there's smoke here," national security lawyer Moss told VOA.
 
村长,我们给你打电话的话,有人请我们喝咖啡吗?最好包饭。o_O
有一点是肯定的,俄罗斯驻美外交官的电话都是被监听的。那么,谁打电话给俄罗斯驻美外交官谁也就被监听了。
 
村长,我们给你打电话的话,有人请我们喝咖啡吗?最好包饭。o_O

你自请。
 
Spokesman Denies Obama Administration Wiretapped Trump
VOA, Last Updated: March 04, 2017 7:23 PM
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President Donald Trump arrives aboard Air Force One at Palm Beach International Airport in West Palm Beach, Fla., March 3, 2017.

WHITE HOUSE —
President Donald Trump's administration has not reacted to a spokesman's denial that former President Barack Obama ordered a telephone tap on Trump during the campaign before last year's U.S. elections.

Obama's spokesman issued a statement after a series of tweets by Trump early Saturday morning alleged that Obama "had my wires tapped in Trump Tower" in New York City before the November 2016 presidential election.

An aide to Obama said Trump's allegations were "simply false."

Trump did not cite any source for his claims, or provide any evidence that electronic surveillance occurred, but he likened the supposed intrusion on his privacy to the Watergate political scandal that eventually led to the 1974 resignation of former U.S. President Richard Nixon.

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The scandal began as a series of political "dirty tricks" aimed at the Democratic Party by Nixon's Republicans, and it expanded after a White House official disclosed that Nixon had authorized an extensive monitoring operation at the White House, recording a large number of telephone calls.

No official in the White House during the Obama administration "ever interfered with any investigation led by the Justice Department," said Kevin Lewis, a spokesman for the former president, emphasizing that prohibition was a "cardinal rule."

In a statement, Lewis said neither "President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false."

VOA asked White House officials for a comment on Saturday's developments but did not receive an immediate response. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department had any relevant statements.

6C26AB18-A210-4A7C-A505-B237E783CA52_w650_r0_s.jpg

FILE - The Federal Bureau of Investigation headquarters in Washington.

FBI sought warrant

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) permits legal surveillance and collection of information between foreign countries and their agents.

The FBI sought and was granted in October a FISA court warrant for an investigation into suspected ties between Russia and people connected to the Trump campaign, according to two sources and previous news reports.

The Justice Department believed four Americans were "unwitting agents" of Russia; there was "probable cause they had been co-opted, and that was the basis for the warrant" granted by the court, according to a lawyer specializing in national security matters, Bradley Moss, who spoke with VOA.

An earlier similar request by the FBI, wider in scope, apparently had been made to the secret court four months earlier, but was rejected. "That's largely unheard of," Moss said.

Search targeted contributions

The FBI and other federal investigators "follow the facts, and the assumption was this was about money … and that would have gone through Trump Tower," added Moss, who is also the deputy executive director of the James Madison Project, an organization focused on promoting government accountability and reduction of secrecy.

Ben Rhodes, a former top national security aide to Obama, said in a Twitter message directed at Trump on Saturday that "no president can order a wiretap," and added, "Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you."

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The highest-ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Ben Cardin of Maryland, said if the Obama administration did monitor activities at Trump Tower, it would indeed have needed authorization from the FISA court.

"That's why we have the FISA courts," Cardin said Saturday on CNN. "The executive branch cannot act on its own. They must get the consent of a court before they can do those types of activities."

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FILE - Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., speaks with reporters in the Senate Press Gallery on Capitol Hill, in Washington, Nov. 15, 2016.

Graham 'very worried'

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, did not endorse Trump's claims but said Saturday that if the Trump campaign was wiretapped in New York, "it would be the biggest political scandal since Watergate."

"I'm very worried that our president is suggesting that the former president has done something illegally," Graham added at a boisterous town hall meeting in Clemson, South Carolina. "I would be very worried if, in fact, the Obama administration was able to obtain a warrant, lawfully, about Trump campaign activity with foreign governments. So it's my job as a United States senator to get to the bottom of this."

It is unknown whether Obama was aware in advance that his Justice Department was pursuing FISA court approvals.

"I certainly expect he would have been advised" at some stage, Moss said.

2413B921-5CA9-42A4-AA9A-4362C6D2D467_w650_r0_s.jpg

FILE - Russia's ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak, speaks with reporters in Washington. Contacts with Kislyak are at the center of the latest controversy surrunding the Trump administration.

Meetings with Russian ambassador

It was disclosed earlier this week that Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak met at Trump Tower in New York in December with Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and with since-ousted national security adviser Michael Flynn. Flynn was fired after just 24 days on the job when information emerged that he had lied to top officials about the nature of his conversations with Kislyak.

Revelations of the Trump Tower meetings surfaced after Attorney General Jeff Sessions admitted earlier in the week he'd met twice with Kislyak during last year's presidential campaign.

Sessions had failed to disclose those talks during his Senate confirmation hearing. He has since said he would stay out of any federal investigation of alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and is expected to amend on Monday his written testimony response.

White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks said Thursday that the meetings at Trump Tower were intended to "establish a line of communication" between the incoming administration and the Russian ambassador. She added that Kushner also met with representatives of as many as two dozen other countries.

Investigations on the increase

U.S. government officials meet with representatives of foreign governments on many occasions and for many reasons. The Trump administration, however, had denied for months there was any contact between Russian officials and the new president's campaign.

On Friday, the Breitbart News website published a report about conservative radio host Mark Levin's allegation that Obama conducted what he called a "silent coup" against Trump by employing "police state" tactics. Trump's top strategic adviser at the White House, Stephen Bannon, previously had been executive chairman of Breitbart.

Trump's latest claims come as the Trump administration faces mounting pressure from multiple FBI and congressional investigations into contacts between members of his campaign team and Russian officials.

"I still don't know if there's any fire, but there's smoke here," national security lawyer Moss told VOA.
这是奥斑马认了吗?事是有,不是我让干的。
 
前总统发言人否认奥巴马行政当局窃听川普
最后更新: 2017年3月5日
  • 美国之音
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川普总统在佛罗里达州棕榈滩登上总统专机(2017年3月3日)

美国总统川普的行政当局还没有就前总统奥巴马发言人的言论做出反应。

此前,川普星期六上午在社交媒体推特发表一系列推文,指控前总统奥巴马在2016年11月总统大选之前下令“窃听川普大楼里我的电信”。而奥巴马的一位助手说,川普的指控纯属无稽之谈。

川普没有提到他的任何消息来源,也没提供任何证据。但是他把他所谓的对他隐私的侵犯和水门事件政治丑闻相提并论。水门事件在1974年最终导致尼克松总统辞职。这个丑闻开始于尼克松共和党人为刺探民主党而采取的一系列肮脏的政治伎俩,后来事态扩大,白宫一位官员透露,尼克松授权在白宫大搞监听,给许多电话通话录音。

前总统奥巴马的发言人路易斯说,奥巴马执政时期没有白宫官员干预司法部主导的任何调查,而禁止这种干预,是当时的基本规则。

路易斯在声明里表示: “奥巴马总统和任何白宫官员都不曾下令窃听任何美国公民。任何其他说法都纯属不实之词。”

美国之音请白宫官员就星期六的事态发展发表评论,但是还没有收到答复。联邦调查局和司法部都没有发表相关声明。

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华盛顿的美国联邦调查局总部大楼

前国家安全委员会分析师和反间谍官员约翰·辛德勒在他的推特中表示,川普总统的指控可能与1978年“外国情报监控法”有关,那项法律允许对于外国的间谍特工进行监控和搜集情报。

星期五,布赖特巴特新闻网站刊登了一条消息,报道保守派广播节目主持人马克·列文指控奥巴马采取了一些“警察国家”的手段,进行了一场 “悄悄的政变”。川普的白宫战略顾问史蒂夫·班农在被川普任命为现职之前曾经是这家网站的执行主席。

参议院外交委员会最资深的民主党参议员本·卡尔丁说,如果奥巴马政府确实监听了川普大楼,这需要“外国情报监控法”法庭的批准。

“这就是为什么我们需要‘外国情报监控法’法庭的原因,”卡尔丁星期六对有线新闻电视网CNN说,“行政部门不能自行其事。他们必须得到一个法庭的准许,然后才能做这种事情。”

参议员司法委员会的共和党参议员格雷厄姆星期六说,如果川普大楼的竞选工作被窃听,那将是水门事件以来最大的政治丑闻。

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参议员司法委员会的共和党参议员格雷厄姆对记者发表谈话(2016年11月15日)

格雷厄姆说:“我很担心,我们的总统的意思是前总统有非法行为。如果事实上奥巴马行政当局能合法地得到法庭命令,监听川普竞选活动同外国政府的关系,我会很担心。所以,作为美国参议员,我的工作就是把这件事弄个水落石出。”
 
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