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In the 243 years since the United States was founded, it's only happened twice. Now, Democrats are hoping Donald Trump will become the third president in American history to be impeached.

Political historian Allan Lichtman is surprised, frankly, that it's taken this long to get to this point.

In early 2016, Lichtman, a professor at American University in Washington D.C., predicted Trump would be elected and, eventually, impeached.

In his 2017 book, The Case for Impeachment, he laid out a number of scenarios that could lead to Trump being removed from office, including, possibly presciently, "complicity of conspiracy with foreign governments."

"Trump has never been held accountable for anything in his entire life," Lichtman said. "It's now time that changed."

So what has changed since the last rumblings in the Democratic caucus to impeach Trump?

For more than a year, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has fought a movement fomented by some within her party to launch an impeachment inquiry linked to the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election and its alleged ties to the Trump campaign.


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Special counsel Robert Mueller's report into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election didn't have the kind of damaging impact on the Trump presidency that many Democrats had been hoping for. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

But Lichtman says the accusations investigated by special counsel Robert Mueller, and outlined in his report released in April, were difficult for people to grasp.

"Robert Mueller did the American people a vast disservice," Lichtman said. "He wrote a report that was essentially unreadable. And he seemed to have bent over backwards at every point not to point an accusing finger at Trump."

In contrast, these latest accusations, Lichtman says, are "simple to understand."

Days after freezing a $400-million military aid payment to Ukraine, the president of the United States spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on the phone and asked for "a favour": To help dig up dirt on his political rival, former vice-president and 2020 presidential hopeful Joe Biden.

Now, Trump has kicked so much sand in the Democrats' faces that they've finally been forced to stop "waving their fingers in the political winds" and act, Lichtman said.

"I think the critical thing that's happened is a lot of moderate Democrats, including many in swing districts, finally seem to have crossed the Rubicon on impeachment," he said. "So Pelosi can no longer claim they want to avoid impeachment to protect these embattled members."

But deciding to pursue impeachment is but a small first step in the process of actually removing a president from office.

'Russia Part II'
Jarryd Gonzales, former political director of the California Republican Party, said Pelosi and the House Democrats have challenged Trump to a "high stakes game of political poker."

"Only the first hand has really been dealt," he said. "Right now, it's a battle of the messaging."

And having come through the inquiry into Russian meddling, he said, many Republicans are confident Trump can weather this latest storm.

"I think what they're hoping is that it is a Russia Part II, where they know the song, they know the tune."

Staunch Trump defenders like Sen. Lindsey Graham wasted no time on Wednesday characterizing the Ukraine matter as another Democratic witch hunt.

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But a special counsel investigation and an impeachment inquiry are two very different things.

The U.S. Constitution allows for the impeachment of a president in cases of treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanours. Only Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were actually impeached by the House, but neither was removed from office by the Senate.

Because the U.S. Department of Justice has a long-standing memo that says a sitting president cannot be indicted, the president is insulated from criminal prosecution while in office, which basically leaves impeachment as the only constitutional remedy for a president suspected of breaking the law.


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A phone call between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Trump is at the centre of the Democrats' decision to pursue an impeachment inquiry against Trump. (Chris Helgren/Reuters)

It's a nebulous process, said Georgetown University constitutional law professor Mike Seidman, because when it comes to impeachment, there is no rule book.

"This is not, strictly speaking, a legal process, so there aren't rules of evidence … It's a question of judgment."

Even though Trump acknowledged that he withheld the aid before discussing a possible Biden investigation with Zelensky, Trump maintains there was no quid pro quo.

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But Seidman said that may not matter.

"In terms of a criminal prosecution, an explicit quid pro quo is not required, so long as both parties understand what's going on." Being vague or evasive, he said, "isn't a defence to a bribery prosecution."

Even though Seidman believes there is a "prima facie case that the president violated the laws against bribery and maybe the laws against campaign finance by foreign governments," it's not necessary for Trump to have actually violated any law in order to be impeached.

"The issue is whether the president has abused his powers," Seidman said, "and that is as much a question about politics or statesmanship as it is about law."

'Pink slip standard'
Kimberly Wehle, a law professor at the University of Baltimore and author of How to Read the Constitution, agrees.

"This is really about firing someone. This is a pink slip standard. It's governed really by politics: what is enough to convince the Senate and to convince the American people that that's what they want their senators to do?"

To make their case, Democrats may need further evidence. But obtaining that evidence could be difficult. The Trump administration has typically refused to provide information requested by Congress, and has challenged dozens of congressional subpoenas in court.

"The types of privilege that the White House is asserting right now are, for a lack of a better word, ridiculous," said Ciara Torres-Spelliscy, a law professor at Stetson University in Florida. "They're asserting privileges that don't exist. And that's not going to work in court for very long."


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The White House has released a summary of a call between Trump, right, and Zelensky, centre, in which the U.S. president asks the president of Ukraine to investigate former U.S. vice-president and 2020 presidential hopeful Joe Biden, right. The call is at the heart of the Democrats' decision to try to impeach Trump. (Bastiann Slabbers, Ludovic Marin, Yuri Gripas/Reuters)

The concern over Trump's call with Zelensky was initially raised by a whistleblower in a complaint to the inspector general for the intelligence community.

The White House says it has volunteered to provide the whistleblower's complaint to Congress.

According to the law, it may not have a choice.

"I read the statute," said law professor Kimberly Wehle. "It's unequivocal."

Kel McClanahan, a D.C.-based lawyer specializing in national security and privacy law who represents whistleblowers, says once the White House hands over the whistleblower complaint to Congress, the whistleblower can testify without having to ask permission from the director of national intelligence.

However, McClanahan isn't sure the whisteblower's testimony is strictly even necessary. He feels the House could impeach Trump simply based on the summary of the call between Trump and Ukraine's president, "which is incriminating as hell," despite the fact that the document didn't reveal a direct quid pro quo.

"If this were a criminal Mob shakedown prosecution, that argument would be laughed out of the room. Because he did not say, 'I will not sell you weapons unless you investigate Joe Biden,' that doesn't mean it wasn't clear to everybody on the phone call that he wouldn't sell them weapons unless they investigated Joe Biden."

'This will get our base fired up'
Nonetheless, many experts acknowledge this effort to impeach Trump may ultimately prove quixotic. Without a shift in the political winds, even if the House votes to impeach, it would be dead in the water in the Republican-controlled Senate, where a two-thirds supermajority would be required to remove Trump from office.

"I just don't see enough Republicans — no matter what Trump does — breaking away from him," said Ryan Williams, a Republican strategist and former spokesperson for Sen. Mitt Romney.

Romney has gone further than other Republicans in expressing concern over the Ukraine scandal. But he's been largely on his own. While some members in the House and Senate have immediately jumped to the president's defence, many have stayed quiet.

"Obviously many Republicans don't want to criticize the leader of their party and they'd like to focus on other matters," Williams said.

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Some have speculated that Trump is setting a trap for Democrats, encouraging them to focus on impeachment, which a majority of Americans oppose. But Williams doesn't buy it.

"I don't think this is by any means some grand strategy. They're going to try to spin it as, 'This will get our base fired up.'"

Even though Republicans show few signs of abandoning Trump, Wehle said it's still early and minds can be changed.

And even if the impeachment inquiry ultimately leads to a dead end, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be pursued, she said.

"If we don't have this kind of oversight of the executive branch, American democracy will morph into something that is closer to a monarchy, or even one day, a dictatorship."

Torres-Spelliscy, who has taught students about the constitutional issues involved in President Richard Nixon's Watergate scandal in the early 1970s, said she feels like she's living through a similar moment in history, in which the rule of law is swirling in uncertainty.

"You're not sure that the constitutional design of the Founding Fathers of checks and balances between our three branches of government will sustain itself and work in real time."

She said even though the Founding Fathers could see a leader like Trump from "a mile away" and tried to build in mechanisms so "that such a person could do only limited damage," she still asks herself if the constitution is up to the task.

"I don't know how this story is going to end," she said. "And I think that's part of why it's fascinating. It's also why it's a little bit horrifying."


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Washington (CNN) Three times in total in the last month, the Justice Department and the FBI heard from top intelligence community officials about President Donald Trump's call with the Ukrainian president.

Those referrals prompted prosecutors to consider whether to open a full-blown campaign finance criminal investigation. DOJ decided not to, yet the intelligence community's inspector general and the Director of National Intelligence had thought the whistleblower's allegation was credible enough to seek legal backup.

So what happened?

The information in the Justice Department moved quickly beginning at the end of August. Two weeks after Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson received the whistleblower's complaint about Trump's July phone call, he notified his superior, the acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire. Atkinson believed it to be a credible complaint and found it worthy to be handled by the intelligence community and referred to Congress under the law.

But instead of the route to Congress, the whistleblower's allegation wound its way across the Justice Department.

In that final week of August, Maguire's team reached out to the Justice Department. The intel office had a question for Justice's Office of Legal Counsel on whether the office needed to alert Congress. That was the first time DOJ was alerted about the situation, senior officials said. The Office of Legal Counsel later said the complaint could be looked at as a possible criminal matter, sending it along to the department's Criminal Division, according to a legal memo released Wednesday.

Around the same time, Atkinson, who had first heard from the whistleblower, also referred the matter to the Justice Department.
Together, those notifications kicked off the Justice Department's probe of whether there was a possible violation of a campaign finance criminal statute.

Justice's Criminal Division took the lead. Prosecutors obtained the summary transcript of the call from the White House, and prosecutors confirmed with knowledgeable people at the White House that the five-page document was the best evidence available, according to the officials. They did not interview any to gather more facts.

On the day after Labor Day, the Office of Legal Counsel had its answer for Maguire. The whistleblower's complaint shouldn't be considered of "urgent concern" and require disclosure to Congress, Steven Engel, the assistant attorney general for the Office of Legal Counsel wrote.

Engel reasoned that preventing foreign campaign contributions that could influence an election was not in the "operational responsibility" of the Director of National Intelligence. The DOJ also noted that the President is not a member of the intelligence community, and Trump's phone call itself wasn't an intelligence activity.

"The [whistleblower] complainant describes a hearsay report that the President, who is not a member of the intelligence community, abused his authority or acted unlawfully in connection with foreign diplomacy," Engel wrote. But the whistleblower's allegations "do not arise in connection with any such intelligence activity at all" that's handled by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

The follow day, September 4, inspector general Atkinson spoke up again, this time to the FBI. With the Criminal Division at work, the FBI deferred to the prosecutors.

Two more weeks went by, with career public integrity prosecutors looking at the matter, according to the officials. Then sometime last week, the Justice Department made its final determination: no reason for a full-blown criminal investigation. What the President asked of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky couldn't amount to a quantifiable "thing of value" under campaign finance law, top administration officials determined.

Criminal Division assistant attorney general Brian Benczkowski made the final call, the senior DOJ officials said. The Office of Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen was also involved with the legal analysis, as were the heads of the National Security Division and the Office of Legal Counsel, the officials said.

"All relevant components of the Department agreed with this legal conclusion," Justice Department spokesperson Kerri Kupec said.

Attorney General William Barr, for his part, had "minimal involvement" in the Justice Department's handling of the referral, an official briefed on the matter said.
 
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(CNN) Trump's decision to push Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate a political opponent one day after the country heard special counsel Robert Mueller testify before Congress suggests a man with a political death wish.

Now, after a career built on demanding attention but evading meaningful scrutiny, Donald Trump is facing accountability for the first time in his life.

Trump is struggling to respond to revelations that he pressured Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden. And judging from his babbling public performance before reporters at the UN General Assembly in New York on Wednesday, he does not know how to cope.

As usual, the President talked about a "witch hunt" and "fake news" and popularity polls as he spoke in the hoarse voice that seems to come over him in moments of stress. Then he damaged the case for his own defense, saying that if then-Vice President Joe Biden had sought a favor from Ukraine in 2015, it would have constituted an "impeachable event."

There's no proof that Biden sought favors from Ukraine. In fact the idea that he did is refuted in original reports on the matter. But a rough White House transcript of a phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky shows that the President did exactly what he'd suggested Biden had done.

"I would like you to do us a favor," Trump said to Zelensky, according to the White House transcript of the call. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son. That Biden stopped the prosecutions and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it. ... It sounds horrible to me."

If there's "a lot of talk" about Biden's son, it has been generated mainly by the President, his supporters and his personal lawyer, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Trump told Zelensky that both Attorney General William Barr and Giuliani would be calling the Ukrainian President.

As Biden has long occupied the front-runner position in the Democratic primary, Trump has cause to fear him -- and to try to undermine him. But urging Ukraine to investigate Biden's son constitutes an abuse of the public trust.

Why would Trump use a phone call with a foreign leader to ask for a blatantly personal and political favor? I would suggest that Trump expects the government to function like his personal business -- and as a result he can't imagine that anything he might desire would be out of bounds for a president.

Throughout his life, Trump has operated under special conditions that allowed him to get away with almost anything. The classic example came when his extremely wealthy father bailed out his casino by purchasing $3.5 million worth of chips at a blackjack table and then left the casino without gambling. This gambit broke state regulations, but the resulting fine -- $30,000 -- was paltry, and the deposit provided much-needed cashflow.

Family wealth bailed Trump out of other difficulties and made it possible for him to take risks that others would have avoided. Bankruptcy followed bankruptcy, but because Trump's family money was protected by corporate structures, he maintained his high-profile lifestyle and kept on promoting himself as a super-successful businessman. He spread lies about the prominent women who had allegedly pursued him as a romantic partner, and he offered wildly varying claims about his personal wealth. Trump has even said that his net worth depends on how he feels at a given moment.

The truth about Trump remained elusive because so much of what he claimed could not be verified. His privately held businesses were not required to produce accurate public financial reports, and they never did. Meanwhile, how do you determine whether, as Trump claimed, he had once been one of the best young baseball players in New York?

As his biographer, I put time into checking Trump's claims and discovered that many, like the one about his baseball prowess, were false. These lies didn't threaten the whole country when he was just the clown prince of New York real estate and a reality TV show host boasting, falsely, about his ratings.

But now that Trump is President, all the bluster that may have seemed amusing and harmless to those who stayed outside Trump's orbit has plunged the nation into a constitutional crisis.

What we've seen in just this one Trump scandal -- and there are many more -- suggests that the President is incapable of fulfilling his duties and may even be driven by self-destructive impulses.

As Trump acknowledged last week, a president's calls with foreign leaders are overheard by other US officials, who take notes. Given this knowledge, Trump's attempt to enlist Zelensky in his harebrained scheme was not just an abuse of public trust; it also demonstrates Trump's true beliefs about human nature. Who could be surprised that a national security official filed a whistleblower complaint about that phone call with Zelensky? Only a person who assumes that no one else ever acts out of a sense of ethical and moral duty.

What Trump seems to have ignored is that the American President operates in a system designed to check abuses -- and that the government he heads might be filled with people of conscience. As this scandal unfolds, the administration will come to learn the meaning of accountability. For Trump personally, it will be the first time.
 
Whistleblower complaint says White House officials acted to 'lock down' record of Trump-Ukraine call
The official concluded that the president was "using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country."

Sept. 26, 2019, 8:28 AM EDT / Updated Sept. 26, 2019, 9:50 AM EDT
By Ken Dilanian and Allan Smith

A whistleblower's complaint about President Donald Trump, made public on Thursday, says White House officials were so concerned about what the president said in a July call with Ukraine's new leader that they intervened to "lock down" the transcript of the conversation.

The whistleblower, whose name and gender has not been released, lodged the formal complaint out of a belief that Trump was "using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country" in the 2020 election.

In the call, Trump discussed having Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy help investigate the Biden family's business dealings. The matter is now the subject of a formal impeachment inquiry that was launched by the House this week.

"The interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the president's main domestic political rivals," the whistleblower wrote. "The president's personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General (William) Barr appears to be involved as well."

The complaint, which was made public with minimal redactions, makes clear there are witnesses who can back up the account, and it indicates concern over the internal handling of the White House record of the phone call.

The whistleblower says White House officials told them the conversation on July 25 between Trump and Zelenskiy was removed from the computer system that is typically used for such records of calls with foreign leaders.

Instead, the whistleblower writes, the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is used only for information that is of an "especially sensitive nature." One White House official described that as an abuse of the secure system because there was nothing "remotely sensitive" on the phone call from a national security perspective, the whistleblower said.

The nine-page complaint includes inside information from a number of White House and administration officials, in addition to accounts from previously published stories in the media.

The whistleblower said the actions described in the complaint posed "risks" to national security and undermined efforts to counter foreign interference.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ern-over-handling-trump-ukraine-call-n1058941
 
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A redacted version of a whistleblower complaint at the centre of an impeachment probe against U.S. President Donald Trump was released Thursday, and alleges Trump abused his office's power during a phone call with Ukraine's president.

The nine-page document was released ahead of testimony to House investigators from Joseph Maguire, the acting director of national intelligence, who had released the complaint to Congress and the public this week after weeks of delay.

The still-unnamed whistleblower, who filed the complaint on Aug. 12, said they were reporting an "urgent concern" regarding Trump's behaviour while on a phone call this summer with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

"I am deeply concerned that the actions described below constitute 'a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, or violation of law or executive order' that 'does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters,' consistent with the definition of an 'urgent concern,'" the nine-page redacted report said, quoting the whistleblower in part.

The concerns cite Trump's July 25 call with Zelensky in which Trump prodded the Ukrainian president to investigate Democratic political rival Joe Biden, as being was part of "ongoing concerns."

In the days following the phone call, senior White House officials intervened to "lock down" all records of the call, the report said.

The complaint said the whistleblower learned about the effort from "multiple U.S. officials."

The whistleblower's statement also raises concerns about the role of Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, in seeking assistance from Ukraine to benefit the president's 2020 re-election campaign.

It suggests Ukrainian leadership was "led to believe" that a phone was conditioned on whether Zelensky "showed willingness to "play ball" on issues raised by Giuliani.

Giuliani had publicly stated his intention to secure from Ukraine derogatory information about Biden and his son Hunter.

The complaint also details concerns from U.S. officials about "Giuliani's circumvention of national security decision making processes."

Trump attacks report
Trump quickly denounced the report, tweeting in all capitals only minutes after its release that:

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The White House claims the complaint "shows nothing improper."

Press secretary Stephanie Grisham argued the complaint "is nothing more than a collection of third-hand accounts of events and cobbled-together press clippings."

Grisham said Trump released a rough transcript of his call with Zelensky on Wednesday "because he has nothing to hide."

She said, "The White House will continue to push back on the hysteria and false narratives being peddled by Democrats and many in the mainstream media."

However, House Democrats who have read the document say it's "deeply disturbing."

In opening Thursday's House intelligence committee session, chair Adam Schiff said Trump's actions as detailed read like "a classic organized crime shakedown."

Schiff said the whistleblower shows "more of a dedication of country, more of an understanding of the president's oath of office, than the president himself."
 
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A complaint by a secret whistleblower that centres on U.S. President Donald Trump's conversation with Ukraine's president is "unprecedented," but the whistleblower simply followed all applicable law in handling the matter, the acting director of national intelligence testified Thursday to open a House intelligence committee session.

Shortly before Joseph Maguire's testimony, the committee released a redacted nine-page version of the complaint. The whistleblower's identity has not been made public, even to members of Congress.

The complaint suggests Ukrainian leadership was "led to believe" a phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was conditioned on whether Zelensky "showed willingness to 'play ball"' on issues raised by Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani had publicly stated his intention to secure from Ukraine derogatory information about former vice-president Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

The complaint also details concerns from U.S. officials about "Giuliani's circumvention of national security decision-making processes" and alleges that he learned from White House officials that efforts were made to "lock down" records of the phone call.
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House intelligence committee chair Adam Schiff, a California Democrat, praised Maguire's military and political service but said he found some of the acting intelligence director's actions 'bewildering.' (Pablo Martinez Monsivais/The Associated Press)

Democratic intelligence chair Adam Schiff, in his opening statement Thursday, said Trump's actions detailed in the complaint read like "a classic organized crime shakedown."

He praised the courage of the whistleblower, but blasted the White House for not sharing information about the complaint "weeks ago," and characterized Maguire's hesitancy on that matter as "bewildering," given his reputation as a respected military leader. Maguire retired from the navy as a vice-admiral.

The unidentified whistleblower first submitted a complaint to Michael Atkinson, the U.S. government's intelligence inspector general, in August. Maguire then blocked release of the complaint to Congress, citing issues of presidential privilege and saying the complaint did not deal with an "urgent concern." Atkinson disagreed, but said his hands were tied.

During his testimony Thursday, Maguire defended his actions, stating an "urgent concern" requirement is statutorily defended and the Trump phone call did not meet the criteria, as it resided outside the purview of the intelligence community. He also said he did not have the authority to waive executive privilege, which often applies to presidential phone calls.

Maguire said he believed both the whistleblower and Atkinson acted "in good faith."

"I believe the whistleblower did the right thing," Maguire said, adding he thought the whistleblower "followed the law every step of the way."


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The White House released a summary of a call between Trump, right, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, centre, in which Trump asked Zelensky to investigate former U.S. vice-president and 2020 presidential hopeful Joe Biden. (Bastiann Slabbers, Ludovic Marin, Yuri Gripas/Reuters)

Maguire, who's only been in the role for a period of weeks after some high-profile departures, admitted he spoke to White House counsel about the complaint, but would not answer a question as to whether he spoke directly to Trump about it, citing executive privilege.

Several Democrats also questioned Maguire on why he would bring up the complaint to Attorney General William Barr, who is also a subject of it, instead of the intelligence committees.

Maguire told Sen. Mike Quigley of Illinois he was unaware if Giuliani, who previously travelled to Ukraine to meet with officials, had a security clearance to work on behalf of the U.S. government.

"My only knowledge of what Mr. Giuliani does, I have to be honest with you, I get from TV and news media," said Maguire. "I am not aware of what he does for the president."

The committee hearing comes after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday said the various committees investigating alleged wrongdoing of the Trump administration were operating under the "umbrella" of an impeachment inquiry.

At her weekly press briefing on Thursday, Pelosi was unsparing in reading the allegation of "repeated abuse of an electronic records system designed to store classified, sensitive, national security information, which the White House used to hide information of a political nature."

"This is a coverup," she said.

Trump, speaking to reporters after the three-hour hearing, described it as a "perfect" phone call with Zelensky and unleashed a familiar laundry list of grievances against Schiff, Pelosi and investigations he again described as a "witch hunt."

Republicans disagree on seriousness
The ranking Republican member of the committee, Devin Nunes of California, accused Democrats of launching an "information warfare operation against the president," aided by "media mouthpieces."

Nunes wondered aloud how the details leaked to the media and questioned Maguire directly.

"Ranking member, I lead the intelligence community — we know how to keep a secret," Maguire responded.


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Some Republicans have expressed concerns about the contents of Trump's phone call, but ranking member Devin Nunes chose to focus not on the substance of the call, accusing Democrats of trying to take down the president. (Pablo Martinez Monsivais/The Associated Press)

Nunes seemed to express doubts, pointing to phone calls Trump engaged in with the leaders of Australia and Mexico in 2017 that were made public.

Atkinson said in his report the whistleblower had "arguable political bias," a term many conservatives have seized on in support of the president.

On Thursday morning, Nunes's Republican colleague in the House, Will Hurd, said on social media the allegations need to be fully investigated.

Ohio Republican Mike Turner also addressed the Trump-Zelensky call, expressing his disappointment.

"I want to say to the president, 'This is not OK. That conversation is not OK,'" said Turner.

Most Republicans defended the president as they left the secure rooms where they read the complaint Wednesday, though senators Mitt Romney and Ben Sasse expressed their concerns.

Atkinson, who met privately with House lawmakers last week, will talk behind closed doors to the Senate intelligence panel Thursday.

Maguire, too, will go behind closed doors Thursday to speak to the Senate intelligence panel.

Advised after the hearing that Trump tweeted that he had no credibility, Schiff responded, "I'm always flattered when I'm attacked by someone of the president's character."

The House and Senate committees have also invited the whistleblower to testify, but it is uncertain whether the person will appear and whether their identity could be adequately protected without Maguire's blessing.

The whistleblower is prepared to speak privately before the Senate and House intelligence committees, but the person's lawyers want to first ensure they have the appropriate security clearances so they can be present for any meeting, according to correspondence reviewed by The Associated Press.

White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham has told reporters the complaint "is nothing more than a collection of third-hand accounts of events and cobbled-together press clippings."

"The White House will continue to push back on the hysteria and false narratives being peddled by Democrats and many in the mainstream media," said Grisham.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/democrats-whistleblower-complaint-trump-1.5297818
 
这总统当的窝囊。:D

根本没有意识到问题的严重性,宣布次日将公布电话记录的时候还那么不以为然,那么牛哄哄。

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Washington (CNN) In a tweet on Friday morning, President Donald Trump called for the resignation of Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, as he has also done in the past.

"Rep. Adam Schiff fraudulently read to Congress, with millions of people watching, a version of my conversation with the President of Ukraine that doesn't exist. He was supposedly reading the exact transcribed version of the call, but he completely changed the words to make it sound horrible, and me sound guilty. HE WAS DESPERATE AND HE GOT CAUGHT," Trump wrote. "Adam Schiff therefore lied to Congress and attempted to defraud the American Public. He has been doing this for two years. I am calling for him to immediately resign from Congress based on this fraud!"

We can't endorse Trump's claim that Schiff "lied," since Schiff introduced his comments at Thursday's committee hearing by saying he would be outlining "the essence of what the president communicates," not providing "the exact transcribed version of the call." And it's important to note that we do not even have an "exact transcribed version" of the call -- the rough transcript released by the White House cautions explicitly that it is "not a verbatim transcript."

Still, Schiff's remarks did make it easy for viewers to get confused. He did not make clear which words he was taking directly from Trump's comments in the rough transcript, which words were his own analysis, and which words were meant to be the comedic "parody" he later said he was intending.

At some points, Schiff's words strayed quite far from what the rough transcript showed Trump saying.

Given Schiff's prominent role at the high-profile Thursday hearing and in the Democrats' overall opposition to Trump as the party makes an impeachment push, it's worth taking a deep dive into what happened here.

What Schiff said about the call
Let's go quote by quote through the relevant part of Schiff's statement.

Schiff: "President Zelensky, eager to establish himself at home as the friend of the president of the most powerful nation on earth, had at least two objectives: get a meeting with the president and get more military help. And so what happened on that call? Zelensky begins by ingratiating himself, and he tries to enlist the support of the president. He expresses his interest in meeting with the president, and says his country wants to acquire more weapons from us to defend itself."

Analysis: This is an accurate summary. Zelensky complimented Trump, saying he had used "quite a few of your skills and knowledge" in his winning election campaign; urged Trump to "call me more often" and (later in the call) to visit Ukraine; and said Ukraine is "almost ready" to buy more Javelin anti-tank missiles from the United States.

Schiff: "And what is the President's response? Well, it reads like a classic organized crime shakedown."

Analysis: This is a subjective matter of opinion.

Schiff: "Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the President communicates. We've been very good to your country. Very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what? I don't see much reciprocity here."

Analysis: Schiff shifted here from his own voice to the voice of Trump. But this is a roughly accurate summary of what Trump said, though Schiff used slightly different words.

Trump said in the call, "I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are." Trump then said of the US-Ukraine relationship: "I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine."

Schiff: "I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you, though. And I'm going to say this only seven times, so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent. Understand? Lots of it, on this and on that."

Analysis: Here's where Schiff veered quite a distance from what the rough transcript says.
Trump did not repeat a demand related to a political opponent "seven times," according to the rough transcript. He told Zelensky three times that he would get his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, to call Zelensky. He twice mentioned Biden's effort to get a Ukrainian prosecutor fired, saying this is what he wanted Zelensky to look into. (The prosecutor was widely criticized for failing to prosecute corruption, and there is no evidence of Biden wrongdoing.

Trump said in the call, "I would like you to do us a favor though," nearly identical to Schiff's version. But the next thing Trump said was not about Biden -- it was that he wanted Zelensky to look into something related to cybersecurity company CrowdStrike and "the server," possibly referring to Democratic National Committee computers hacked by Russia in 2016.
Trump was alluding to a conspiracy theory; we explain here.

Trump also did not tell Zelensky to "make up dirt" on Biden. Rather, Trump said in the call: "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it...It sounds horrible to me."

As we have previously noted, Trump was himself inaccurate here: Biden has not boasted about having "stopped the prosecution" of a Ukrainian case in which his son Hunter Biden had an interest.

But Trump asked Zelensky in the call to "look into" his baseless claim about Biden, not to make things up.

Schiff's subtext
Schiff's team argues that there was a subtext here -- that asking Zelensky to dig into Biden was effectively asking him to "make up dirt," since there is not actual Biden wrongdoing to be found.

Schiff: "I'm going to put you in touch with people, and not just any people. I'm going to put you in touch with the attorney general of the United States, my attorney general, Bill Barr. He's got the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him. And I'm going to put you in touch with Rudy."

Analysis: Trump did tell Zelensky that he would have Giuliani and the attorney general, William Barr, call him.

Trump did not tell Zelensky that Barr has "the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him," but this is obviously true of the attorney general.

Schiff: "You're going to love him (Giuliani). Trust me. You know what I'm asking? And so I'm only going to say this a few more times in a few more ways. And by the way, don't call me again. I'll call you when you've done what I asked."

Analysis: Trump did not tell Zelensky not to call him again until he had done what Trump asked, nor did he say "you know what I'm asking?" The call ended on a positive note, with Trump saying of Zelensky's request for a visit to Ukraine, "Okay, we can work that out," then adding, "I look forward to seeing you in Washington and maybe in Poland because I think we are going to be there at that time."

The whistleblower complaint alleges that Trump instructed Vice President Mike Pence to call off a planned trip to Ukraine, and alleges that it had been "made clear" to US officials that "the President did not want to meet with Mr. Zelensky until he saw how Zelensky 'chose to act' in office."

Schiff: "This is in sum and character what the president was trying to communicate with the president of Ukraine. It would be funny if it wasn't such a graphic betrayal of the President's oath of office. But as it does represent a real betrayal, there's nothing the president says here that is in America's interest after all."

Analysis: This concluding quote may have further confused viewers. Schiff suggested here that he had just provided listeners with what "the president says," though he had added in things that Trump did not actually say.

A 'parody'?
Later in the hearing, Republican Rep. Mike Turner criticized Schiff's comments, saying that "sometimes fiction is better than the actual words or the text."

"But luckily the American public are smart," Turner said. "They have the transcript. They've read the conversation. They know when someone's just making it up."

Schiff responded by saying that his summary of Trump's call was "meant to be at least part in parody," a claim Trump's campaign also criticized. Schiff had not clearly distinguished the serious parts of his analysis from the supposed "parody."

Schiff's post-hearing response
Asked by CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Thursday whether he regretted saying what he did, Schiff said, "No, I think everyone understood -- and my GOP colleagues may feign otherwise. But when I said, suggested, that it was as if the President said, 'Listen carefully, because I'm only gonna tell you seven more times' -- that I was mocking the President's conduct."

Schiff continued to stand by the comments on Friday morning.

"It was entirely clear in context of Chairman Schiff's opening statement that he was not misleading anyone. He began that portion of his statement by saying, 'In essence, what the President Trump communicates is this,' and then proceeded to describe, accurately, the message the President communicated on the call," Schiff spokesman Patrick Boland said in an email.
Boland added: "When his Republican colleagues suggested they had been confused about that portion, he clarified further that he was not reading the transcript. The suggestions that he was misleading gives credence to the absurd attacks from the President and his allies in their desperate effort to distract from their wrongdoing."
 
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Former U.S. defence secretary James Mattis says the whistleblower complaint threatening U.S. President Donald Trump with impeachment is the "normal heave and ho of democracies."

"Democracies go through raucous periods and you see some of that going on right now — and by the way, you see it going on in Germany and France and the United Kingdom especially, and certainly very much so here in Washington, D.C., right now," said Mattis, who served as Trump's secretary of defence from January 2017 to December 2018, but resigned over a series of policy disagreements with the president.

Trump is facing an impeachment inquiry over a whistleblower allegation that he asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to look for damaging information on rival Democrat Joe Biden. Trump has denied he exerted "any pressure," but has been accused by Democrats of trying to bolster his own re-election bid.

While Mattis acknowledges the impeachment inquiry is "historically significant," he says whistleblowing is a normal part of how power is practised.

"In the Pentagon, a whistleblower complaint can actually be a large part of creating change, and of disciplining internally the organization," he told The Current's interim host Laura Lynch.

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Mattis resigned as U.S. President Donald Trump's secretary of defence over a series of policy disagreements. (Leah Millis/Reuters)

Mattis has written a new book, Call Sign Chaos: Learning to Lead, which focuses not on his time in the Pentagon, but his career as a marine and a wartime commander. He has faced criticism for not speaking out about the Trump administration.

But Mattis says it would be inappropriate for him to comment on the current probe, adding his position "is not unique to me in these very, very, I think, passionate times right now."

"This is a long-standing tradition at the Department of Defence — and of our military — that we don't do politics," he said.

"I prefer to continue that tradition, even as it frustrates those of you who want everyone to speak out right now."

He said that those in power should be trusted to lead without outside interference.

"The last thing I think you need to do at that point is … have the troops looking over their shoulder at the former secretary of defence, when I'm no longer responsible for the foreign policy."

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Asked if he would speak up if he believed Trump was "a danger to U.S. national security," he replied, "I absolutely would."

"I have a lot of confidence in the hardiness of our Constitution, and in the long-term wisdom of the American people and the choices they make," he said.

"We're just going to have to see how it plays out. I would just say there's rough sledding ahead for everyone involved."
 
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