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猪队友，一锅粥。。。
或许早早帮土豆竞选
辞职了。应该说是不得不辞职的或者说是被辞职的。就算他不辞职 ，回到加拿大驻中国大使馆里的日子也不好过。他在一次讲话里提到自从12月1日孟被捕后，他在中国的情况也发生了很大的变化。
加国前任驻中大使赵朴（Guy Saint-Jacques）表示，加拿大当前与中国的外交僵局，是1970年两国建交以来最严重的危机。他主张，特鲁多应该换下麦家廉、改派特使前往北京，设法化解这场危机。
加国智库「麦克唐纳－劳裡埃研究所」（Macdonald-Laurier Institute，MLI）资深学者马占达（Shuvaloy Majumdar）和寇尔嘉（Marcus Kolga）则撰文指出，麦家廉有关孟晚舟案带著政治干预性的评论，显示他「不惜一切代价也要维护与中国往来的讨好意图」。
特鲁多在麦家廉失言风波后，没有同意撤换麦家廉，只说这样的改变对让两名加拿大人早日获释没有帮助。但MLI两位学者表示，如果杜鲁道政府不愿换掉麦家廉，隐含的意义就是麦家廉正代表政府发言，「这是完全不可接受的」。为表明政府在这个关键问题上立场前后一致，特鲁多必须撤换麦家廉，以洗涮清白。
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那不是危机处理，他的反口覆舌让人太哗然了。应该说是被舆论推倒的吧。危机处理，可是有点晚
回到黄牙大使这里来，现在他的这个位置真的非常不好干。
那些在中国的日子基本上应该很不错的，可不成想到来了孟的这一出，他在中国的好日子也基本到头了。他反反复复的说那些话，也许还真不是他想说的（你懂的）。他说也不行不说也不行，得，那就豁出去了，于是眼睛一闭，不成功就成仁吧。
他出任驻中国大使，实际上是变相的降职（是不是记仇放小土豆的冷箭呢？WHO KNOWS.)。而现在来了这一出孟事件，他成了夹心人。
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俺就说这位前大使不配代表加拿大政府和人民。早该fire掉。留在中国当双面间谍吧。
中英文媒体对此事评论纷纷，CFC上也有许多偏激的论点， 大使今天又被炒了鱿鱼。事到如今让大家回头看看自由党大佬，曾任加拿大工业部长，外交部长，财长，代总理的John Manley 12月15号对孟一案的看法。也许对大家对此事的理解有帮助。
John Manley是咱窝村土生土长的政治家， 律师。没上过大藤， Carleton university 的 BA ，University of Ottawa 的LLA（等于现在的JD)。
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Manley
John Paul Manley PC OC (born January 5, 1950) is a Canadian lawyer, businessman, and politician. He served as Liberal Member of Parliament for Ottawa South from 1988 to 2004, and was deputy prime minister between 2002 and 2003. From January 2010 until October 2018 he was President and CEO of the Business Council of Canada.
下面是John Manley 12月15号在CBC Radio对孟一案的看法。
对土豆政府为美国抓孟，John Paul Manley说：“we find ourselves in a situation where lots of warning bells should have gone off， this was not an extradition of somebody who was a drug trafficker, you know a human smuggler, or any of the typical thing is that we find people getting extradited for. This is a senior executive of a global company. Yes, they accuse Huawei of doing things that they ought not to have done. But before you arrest somebody in that category, you make awfully with sure that this is really what it's claimed to be. And I think the president (Trump) has made it pretty clear that's not what it was at all". John Manley 还谈到：“ I think it was a good opportunity for a little bit of creative incompetence on the part of Canadian authorities. And somehow just miss her. This has happened from time to time that we sometimes don't always do exactly everything we needed to do. And the world wouldn't have really been any wiser about it”.
仅仅是麦大使说了不该说的话，把此案政治化了吗？土豆和加外长就没有？两人在抓孟后都曾公开表示他们事先知道。看看John Paul Manley开始怎么说的：“ The trouble with the prime minister having been informed — and I don't think he should have been — is that to the Chinese that means this was political. The prime minister was informed. And you know I think extradition matters, prime ministers shouldn't even necessarily know who's on such lists that there are extradition requests about. We don't run our law that way.
在此事上，中国应该尊重加拿大法律？John Manley说：“ And rule of law is one of the fundamental principles of the Canadian system. But we could also be talking about abuse of process. And to abuse legal processes is not to respect the rule of law it’s to abuse the rule of law. John Manley在这里指美国滥用法律, 而且加的的处理过程也有问题。
加拿大应该如何解决此事？John Paul Manley说：“My hope is that there are people burning the midnight oil at the Justice Department to see if that advice （drop this extradition process) can be given to the attorney general. And "I actually do think it's an abuse of process, and it should be brought to an end as quickly as possible. But the communication of that would be very tricky".
当然，John Manley对中国抓2位加拿大人也很愤怒，认为无助于问题的解决而把问题复杂化了。
麦大使说的都是实话，对加拿大好的话。我相信在土豆召集6国大使开会他发表了同样的见解。我认为土豆政府会教条式的走下去。就如他的内阁必须50%的女性，Omar Khadr, 沙特一事的做法。人没有基本的智慧，只知道几个教条的人领导一个国家好戏会一个接一个来的。
声明： 本人长期自由党选民，以前大选让自由党在房前插牌，上次大选我拒绝了并明确说只要土豆当头我不去投票。
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappen...thinks-canada-botched-huawei-affair-1.4946539
John Manley是咱窝村土生土长的政治家， 律师。没上过大藤， Carleton university 的 BA ，University of Ottawa 的LLA（等于现在的JD)。
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Manley
John Paul Manley PC OC (born January 5, 1950) is a Canadian lawyer, businessman, and politician. He served as Liberal Member of Parliament for Ottawa South from 1988 to 2004, and was deputy prime minister between 2002 and 2003. From January 2010 until October 2018 he was President and CEO of the Business Council of Canada.
下面是John Manley 12月15号在CBC Radio对孟一案的看法。
对土豆政府为美国抓孟，John Paul Manley说：“we find ourselves in a situation where lots of warning bells should have gone off， this was not an extradition of somebody who was a drug trafficker, you know a human smuggler, or any of the typical thing is that we find people getting extradited for. This is a senior executive of a global company. Yes, they accuse Huawei of doing things that they ought not to have done. But before you arrest somebody in that category, you make awfully with sure that this is really what it's claimed to be. And I think the president (Trump) has made it pretty clear that's not what it was at all". John Manley 还谈到：“ I think it was a good opportunity for a little bit of creative incompetence on the part of Canadian authorities. And somehow just miss her. This has happened from time to time that we sometimes don't always do exactly everything we needed to do. And the world wouldn't have really been any wiser about it”.
仅仅是麦大使说了不该说的话，把此案政治化了吗？土豆和加外长就没有？两人在抓孟后都曾公开表示他们事先知道。看看John Paul Manley开始怎么说的：“ The trouble with the prime minister having been informed — and I don't think he should have been — is that to the Chinese that means this was political. The prime minister was informed. And you know I think extradition matters, prime ministers shouldn't even necessarily know who's on such lists that there are extradition requests about. We don't run our law that way.
在此事上，中国应该尊重加拿大法律？John Manley说：“ And rule of law is one of the fundamental principles of the Canadian system. But we could also be talking about abuse of process. And to abuse legal processes is not to respect the rule of law it’s to abuse the rule of law. John Manley在这里指美国滥用法律, 而且加的的处理过程也有问题。
加拿大应该如何解决此事？John Paul Manley说：“My hope is that there are people burning the midnight oil at the Justice Department to see if that advice （drop this extradition process) can be given to the attorney general. And "I actually do think it's an abuse of process, and it should be brought to an end as quickly as possible. But the communication of that would be very tricky".
当然，John Manley对中国抓2位加拿大人也很愤怒，认为无助于问题的解决而把问题复杂化了。
麦大使说的都是实话，对加拿大好的话。我相信在土豆召集6国大使开会他发表了同样的见解。我认为土豆政府会教条式的走下去。就如他的内阁必须50%的女性，Omar Khadr, 沙特一事的做法。人没有基本的智慧，只知道几个教条的人领导一个国家好戏会一个接一个来的。
声明： 本人长期自由党选民，以前大选让自由党在房前插牌，上次大选我拒绝了并明确说只要土豆当头我不去投票。
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappen...thinks-canada-botched-huawei-affair-1.4946539
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说来说去，都是看屁股坐在那里而已。
卖家连可能说了他的真心话，但是奈何他屁股坐在那个位置上就不能这么说，说了，那就被辞职。很简单吧。
Manley也一样，他心里怎么想的不重要，但是他的屁股坐在那个位置上，那就必须为Telus利益发声。
邱少云也一样，他趴在阵地上准备战斗，他在那个位置，就必须趴着不出声。跟他愿不愿意趴着，是否疼痛无关。哪有人被火烧会不痛的？哪有人愿意趴着一声不吭被烧死？邱少云伟大就伟大在他对于自己的职责超过了对自己生命的爱护。
卖家连卸任后，爱咋说咋说；邱少云下了阵地，爱跳舞爱唱歌也随便。
卖家连在任上说那样的话，就跟邱少云不顾大局跳起来扑火一样。
为卖家连与Manley的言论鼓吹，就是在否定邱少云的伟大，是在否定与侮辱英烈。
卖家连可能说了他的真心话，但是奈何他屁股坐在那个位置上就不能这么说，说了，那就被辞职。很简单吧。
Manley也一样，他心里怎么想的不重要，但是他的屁股坐在那个位置上，那就必须为Telus利益发声。
邱少云也一样，他趴在阵地上准备战斗，他在那个位置，就必须趴着不出声。跟他愿不愿意趴着，是否疼痛无关。哪有人被火烧会不痛的？哪有人愿意趴着一声不吭被烧死？邱少云伟大就伟大在他对于自己的职责超过了对自己生命的爱护。
卖家连卸任后，爱咋说咋说；邱少云下了阵地，爱跳舞爱唱歌也随便。
卖家连在任上说那样的话，就跟邱少云不顾大局跳起来扑火一样。
为卖家连与Manley的言论鼓吹，就是在否定邱少云的伟大，是在否定与侮辱英烈。
