中美第一阶段协议签了?

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如果习不签字,你剖腹吗?
说明,不是要你谢罪,是你应该自认为不该继续活着。
我又没代表习大大说签字或者不签字,我干嘛剖腹?
我相信习会签字的。要过年了,猪肉价格还降不下来的话,维稳的难度会增大的。
如果他真的不签,我会替国内的同胞难过。但我没有什么理由认为我不该继续活着。
 
我又没代表习大大说签字或者不签字,我干嘛剖腹?
我相信习会签字的。要过年了,猪肉价格还降不下来的话,维稳的难度会增大的。
如果他真的不签,我会替国内的同胞难过。但我没有什么理由认为我不该继续活着。


好吧。
你不敢赌。
 
看看rumours是否成真。
https://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2019/12/13/8943367.html
中国商务部副部长王受文在北京时间星期五(12月13日)晚10点召开的记者会上宣布,美中双方已就第一阶段贸易协议文本达成一致。

王受文表示,协议文本共包括序言、知识产权、技术转让、视频和农产品、金融服务、汇率和透明度、扩大贸易、双边评估和争端解决、最终条款等共九个章节。他还表示,美方将分阶段取消对中国产品加征的关税,“实现加征关税由升到降的转变”。

王受文周五晚在国务院新闻办举行的记者会上宣读了《中方关于中美第一阶段经贸协议的声明》。声明说,“本协议总体上符合中国深化改革开放的大方向,以及自身推动经济高质量发展的内在需要。”出席记者会的中方官员还包括中国国家发改委副主任宁吉喆、中国外交部副部长郑泽光、财政部副部长廖岷和农业农村部副部长韩俊。

美国各大媒体星期四纷纷报道了美中两国已在原则上达成了双方第一阶段的贸易协议,但仍有待特朗普总统最终批准。特朗普星期四下午在白宫与他的经贸顾问举行了约一个小时的会谈。在那之后,彭博社、华尔街日报和路透社均报道特朗普已经批准了这份与中国的第一阶段贸易协议。

美东时间周五上午9点05分,特朗普发推文,指责华尔街日报前一天的报道“完全错误”,是“假新闻”,尤其是在关税的部分。这加剧了外界对美中贸易谈判有可能像过去几次那样再度破局的担忧。

但是在中方举行新闻发布会的同时,特朗普再发推文称,“已经与中国达成一项非常大的协议。他们同意进行许多结构性改变,大量购买农产品、能源和制成品,以及更多。 25%的关税将保持不变,其余大部分产品关税为7.5%。由于我们已达成协议,因此原定12月15日的“惩罚性关税”不再加征。我们将立即开始第二阶段协议谈判,而不是等到2020年大选以后。这对所有人来说都是一个了不起的协议。”

与此同时,北京方面对美国媒体广泛报道的美中已在原则上达成了第一阶段协议完成一度保持沉默。中国外交部发言人华春莹在星期五的例行记者会上没有直接回答媒体有关美中贸易谈判进展的提问,只是重申了中方的一贯立场。她说:“我们始终坚持,磋商必须给予平等和相互尊重的原则,协议必须是互利共赢的。”

华尔街日报周四(12月12日)引述知情人士的话报道说,美国贸易谈判代表提出取消定于12月15日开征的新一轮对中国输美商品的关税,同时将现有的对价值3600亿美元中国商品加征的关税降低一半,以换取中国承诺大笔采购美国农产品、改善保护美国知识产权以及扩大中国金融服务领域的市场准入。

美中双方目前还没有正式公布协议的文本。从中方的声明内容来看,这份协议的重点将包括中国扩大从美国进口、承诺加强知识产权保护、改善外国企业在华营商环境、人民币汇率和扩大金融服务领域的市场准入。

中方的声明说,“下一步双方将各自尽快完成法律审核、翻译校对等必要的程序,并就正式签署协议的具体安排进行协商。”
 
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Trump said on Twitter that China and the U.S have agreed to a very large part of what he called a "Phase One" deal.


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The U.S. will modify its tariffs on Chinese goods in a "significant way," while China would buy substantially more U.S. goods and services, the U.S. Trade Representative's (USTR) office said on Friday.

Under the agreement, Washington will maintain 25 per cent tariffs on about $250 billion US of Chinese imports, and reduce to around 7.5 per cent tariffs imposed on $120 billion of other Chinese imports, USTR said in a statement.

The trade agreement required structural reforms to China's economic and trade regime in areas of intellectual property, technology transfer, agriculture, financial services, currency and foreign exchange. The deal also includes a "strong dispute resolution system," USTR said. It offered no further details on any of the reforms or a timeline for their implementation.

The two countries have achieved major progress in their trade negotiations, agreeing on the text of that part of the deal, Beijing officials said.

The deal would also provide more protection for foreign companies in China, and Chinese companies in the U.S., Chinese officials said.

China will also import more U.S. wheat and corn after the deal, China's vice agricultural minister said.

However, they offered no specific details on the amount of U.S. agricultural goods Beijing had agreed to buy, a key sticking point of the lengthy deal negotiations.

The U.S. has been pushing for Beijing to commit to buy $50 billion US in agricultural products in 2020, a figure that Chinese officials have previously balked at.

Asked specifically about the $50 billion figure, officials in Beijing said details on value will be disclosed later.
 
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U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese officials said Friday that they have agreed to the first phase of a trade deal that included cutting U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods.

Trump said on Twitter that China and the U.S have agreed to a very large part of what he called a "Phase One" deal.


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We have agreed to a very large Phase One Deal with China. They have agreed to many structural changes and massive purchases of Agricultural Product, Energy, and Manufactured Goods, plus much more. The 25% Tariffs will remain as is, with 7 1/2% put on much of the remainder....


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The U.S. will modify its tariffs on Chinese goods in a "significant way," while China would buy substantially more U.S. goods and services, the U.S. Trade Representative's (USTR) office said on Friday.

Under the agreement, Washington will maintain 25 per cent tariffs on about $250 billion US of Chinese imports, and reduce to around 7.5 per cent tariffs imposed on $120 billion of other Chinese imports, USTR said in a statement.

The trade agreement required structural reforms to China's economic and trade regime in areas of intellectual property, technology transfer, agriculture, financial services, currency and foreign exchange. The deal also includes a "strong dispute resolution system," USTR said. It offered no further details on any of the reforms or a timeline for their implementation.

The two countries have achieved major progress in their trade negotiations, agreeing on the text of that part of the deal, Beijing officials said.

The deal would also provide more protection for foreign companies in China, and Chinese companies in the U.S., Chinese officials said.

China will also import more U.S. wheat and corn after the deal, China's vice agricultural minister said.

However, they offered no specific details on the amount of U.S. agricultural goods Beijing had agreed to buy, a key sticking point of the lengthy deal negotiations.

The U.S. has been pushing for Beijing to commit to buy $50 billion US in agricultural products in 2020, a figure that Chinese officials have previously balked at.

Asked specifically about the $50 billion figure, officials in Beijing said details on value will be disclosed later.
还是没有明确双方是否签字了。

我估计川普已经签了。 中国要拿回去让习近平签字。

如果搞定了, 这么大的事, 白宫和中南海都应该各自开一个新闻发布会的吧。
 
还是没有明确双方是否签字了。

我估计川普已经签了。 中国要拿回去让习近平签字。

如果搞定了, 这么大的事, 白宫和中南海都应该各自开一个新闻发布会的吧。
习近平不同意,刘鹤敢签字吗?中美谈判官员的授权程度是不一样的,流程也不完全一样。
新华社的声明都发了,习99.99%不可能反悔不签的。
 
还是没有明确双方是否签字了。

我估计川普已经签了。 中国要拿回去让习近平签字。

如果搞定了, 这么大的事, 白宫和中南海都应该各自开一个新闻发布会的吧。
商务部都官宣了还不签就属于自己跟自己过不去了。
 
商务部都官宣了还不签就属于自己跟自己过不去了。
所以, 就等双方的新闻发布会就行了。
 
隔着太平洋,各签个的?真新鲜!
 
还是没有明确双方是否签字了。

我估计川普已经签了。 中国要拿回去让习近平签字。

如果搞定了, 这么大的事, 白宫和中南海都应该各自开一个新闻发布会的吧。
中方的声明说,“下一步双方将各自尽快完成法律审核、翻译校对等必要的程序,并就正式签署协议的具体安排进行协商。”

看来字是要签了。希望不要再出幺蛾子。
 
隔着太平洋,各签个的?真新鲜!
那怎么办?到太平洋中间找个岛去签? 还是开个船停到距离中美大致相等的地方去签?
 
隔着太平洋,各签个的?真新鲜!
那怎么办?到太平洋中间找个岛去签? 还是开个船停到距离中美大致相等的地方去签?
是美方最终还需要川普签字批准这个流程把大家带蒙了。
中国的流程是不一样的。没有习的首肯,谁都不可能签的。
 
其实中美最主要的矛盾,并不在于中国买多少大豆猪肉吧?美国最想要的而中国又最不想给的,是中国开放金融市场和取消强制性知识产权转让规定等等。但是中文媒体报道,基本都只着眼于大豆猪肉汽车等产品的进出口,因为要制造一种美帝就是在bully,中国则很大方一再加大农产品购买量这样的印象。实际上,我相信如果中方在金融市场和知识产权保护方面没有做出大幅退让的话,川普是不会签这个协议的。不过这种退让中国媒体是不会详细报道的,最多稍微提一下有关于这些领域的内容。因为对于这种退让,第一中国政府内部肯定存在巨大分歧,第二他们绝不愿意让P民们看到中国退让,那样的话战狼还怎么带领民众继续中国梦。
我认为这个第一阶段的协议是双方都想要的,尤其是美国。
美国决定了12月15日不涨关税,以及降低以前的关税,不能不说是一个让步。换来的仅仅是购买农产品,这个协议还没有涉及美国挑起贸易战的核心目的,知识产权,高新技术,金融市场等部分。川普曾多次说过不想要部分协议,但是他现在还是不得不先拿下它作为他的政绩,说可以等到连任以后再签,那纯属打肿脸充胖子。
就在今早,他还怒怼WSJ泄露关于关税的让步的消息。


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强制性知识产权转让规定等等
其实强制性知识产权转让本身就是个伪命题
1。 我招标,有两人来投标
一个说我要 200 万,包括知识产品转让
另一个说,我要 100 万,不转让
我权衡知识产权值 150 万,我当然选第一个

2。你要到我这开工厂,你只要工人干活,什么核心技术都不让我沾边。我一点好处没有。当然不同意你开工厂

你不主动转让我就不同意,理由多的是。只是不明确说出来。这能说是强制吗?
 
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