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中国好像已经确认7,8月发射,如果顺利明年2月到火星,

印度在火星和深空探测其实走在天朝前面,印度在2013年就实现了发射火星探测器,并一次成功入火星环绕轨道。这是印度全民信心最爆棚的时候。以往美国,苏联和欧洲火星探测的第一次(就是入火星卫星轨道)都是失败的。应该说之前7-8年印度在大推力火箭和深空火箭和卫星测控是领先中国的。2014年莫迪上台前后,是印度民族自豪感最强的时候,莫迪去美国在加州一个巨大的体育场聚拢几万印度IT精英一起欢呼印度世纪的到来。

天朝的这计划是一次豪赌,第一次飞火星,就带LAND ROVER准备在火星软着陆,并在火星表面待3个月。如果能成功,那就把印度比下去很远一节了。可以坐稳世界航天第三甚至第二的交椅。中国这些年有不少技术积累,月球背面的LAND ROVER就很很成功,印度的最近一次就摔碎了。



 
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有趣的是NASA今年7月发射一个火星探测器/登陆器。
应该在中国之前发射

美国这次火星探测有几个里程碑的目标
-采集火星岩石和物质标本,返回轨道舱并带回地球
-在火星上使用特殊小直升飞机。扩大探测和运输能力
-在火星上搞建筑(生命支持系统),目标是未来人类登陆火星并居住。
-用空中抛射和接力方式把火星上需要返回地球的东西交接到返回舱。

 
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大国竞争,这火星探险就是关键的良性竞争点。

如果中国这次成功,航天和国字号的水平更加坐3望2, 或者坐2不为过。印度和其他中小国想挑战中国的,或想从中美G2 竞争浑水摸鱼的就老老实实中立吧。
如果美国那些目标实现,美国更加坐稳老大交椅,中国也要心里有数,认识到和老大的差距,中美矛盾还是不要继续恶化。自己多打基础,把几个卡脖子的项目(芯片,EDA,系统软件和大型软件)搞起来

总之,希望中美两家这新的火星探险都成功吧,对世界稳定是有利的。
 
这就是15年莫迪访美在硅谷和印裔在美人员在几万人体育场联欢的高光时分,不可否认,印裔在美人员确实在美国取得了很大的成功,加上印度火星探险的成功,这都是莫迪和人民党抬高印度的期望值成为全球列强的底气之一。



2019年莫迪再次访美在德州也有类似场合,那时正是美国已经开始中美大战,印度信心满满,俨然就象老邓78年访美的场景。

 
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你把以前中国卫星发射失败,粘贴在这就没意思了。

北斗最后一星已经顺利入轨。


呼叫,呼叫!看看你附近有多少颗北斗卫星
2020/6/23 18:23:12来源:IT之家作者:骑士责编:骑士评论:479

IT之家6月23日消息 今天,西昌卫星发射中心宣布:北斗三号最后一颗全球组网卫星顺利进入预定轨道,发射任务取得圆满成功。相比原计划,北斗三号全球系统星座部署提前半年完成。
今天,央视新闻和千寻位置发起了扫码呼叫北斗活动,在该活动中可以查看已经有多少颗北斗卫星在陪伴着你了。
 
川普刚刚在竞选集会说,要让美国人第一个在火星插旗,插美国旗。

来个竞争吧,看谁拖得起。

中国没必要象美苏那样冷战比谁先这种竞争。 中国在航天方面按美国专家的说法还有20-25年差距。看看美国这次火星探险4个任务确实很牛,如果这4个任务都能完成,可以说是一骑绝尘。航天把老二甩20年的说法是可信的。

中国现在就别惦记在啥地方抢个先之类的,老老实实把探测器发过去,能入轨,能软着陆,能把高清图像传回中国,能演示远端控制ROVER就很牛了,基本老三甚至老二位置坐稳。印度基本心凉,别和天朝较劲。

让美国去着急争这口气,保它的第一位置。。。。。
 
你把以前中国卫星发射失败,粘贴在这就没意思了。

北斗最后一星已经顺利入轨。


呼叫,呼叫!看看你附近有多少颗北斗卫星
2020/6/23 18:23:12来源:IT之家作者:骑士责编:骑士评论:479

IT之家6月23日消息 今天,西昌卫星发射中心宣布:北斗三号最后一颗全球组网卫星顺利进入预定轨道,发射任务取得圆满成功。相比原计划,北斗三号全球系统星座部署提前半年完成。
今天,央视新闻和千寻位置发起了扫码呼叫北斗活动,在该活动中可以查看已经有多少颗北斗卫星在陪伴着你了。
欧洲伽利略导航,起步早于北斗,2019年出事后基本处于瘫痪状态,而中国出资参与合作却被排挤出局后单干,奋斗十几年终于功成,不得不说项目很成功
 
如果换一个说法,就是中国在参与伽利略项目后偷窃了卫星技术,然后自己单干,搞出来了一个克隆版本。

伽利略系统和GPS类似。
中国的北斗系统设计和他们不一样,有很多创新。比如增加了通讯功能。精度目前也超过GPS。
这么大系统是不可能靠复制别人而成功的。伽利略核心都在欧洲,根本不让中国参与,中国主要就是出资方,欧洲基本对中国也是排斥。并没有让中国参与核心或主要的研发。这就如同NASA也分包了一些小活给加拿大,欧洲国家。都是支离破碎的,任何NASA参与方都不可能凭分给自己的小活而自立门户单干。况且人家连活都不给中国分,知道巴黎统筹委员会吧。美国也对欧洲施压,那前些年,中美况且在蜜月期都这样,中国只能自己干。中国的强项是工业门类全,加上举国体制。中国北斗现在脱颖而出一点不奇怪,围绕北斗的还有上千亿元的北斗经济圈。
 
伽利略系统和GPS类似。
中国的北斗系统设计和他们不一样,有很多创新。比如增加了通讯功能。精度目前也超过GPS。
这么大系统是不可能靠复制别人而成功的。伽利略核心都在欧洲,根本不让中国参与,中国主要就是出资方,欧洲基本对中国也是排斥。并没有让中国参与核心或主要的研发。这就如同NASA也分包了一些小活给加拿大,欧洲国家。都是支离破碎的,任何NASA参与方都不可能凭分给自己的小活而自立门户单干。况且人家连活都不给中国分,知道巴黎统筹委员会吧。美国也对欧洲施压,那前些年,中美况且在蜜月期都这样,中国只能自己干。中国的强项是工业门类全,加上举国体制。中国北斗现在脱颖而出一点不奇怪,围绕北斗的还有上千亿元的北斗经济圈。
北斗发射了最后一颗卫星,以后中国可以使用自己的导航系统,打起仗了,至关重要,现在各种导弹,智能,无人机等等都离不开导航。
 
有两段视频很有意思,可以看出印度2013年的火星入轨成功是怎么提升印度民族自豪感和超级大国意识。

客观说。根据在这次中国火星探测前。中印双方航天的记录。其实是各有强项,中国并非全面领先。

印度的强项(相对于中国)
- 火箭技术,或动力系统。能把舱送到火星那么远,基本说明问题,印度还有一次一个火箭送130个小卫星上天的记录
- 测控技术,印度应该微微领先,能在全程6个月的探测器飞向火星并入绕星轨道全程控制,基本说明问题

中国的强项(相对于印度)
- 材料技术 (载人航天, LANDER,返回舱)
- 通讯技术
- 各种机器人,机电和姿态控制。(标志里程碑就是月球背面LANDER 和ROVER全面成功。而印度LANDER+ROVER却失去控制坠毁
- 生命维持系统 (载人航天和空间站)
- 图像处理技术
- 大系统设计和集成技术(空间站)

我个人认为,如果把各分项技术一起综合,中国领先印度,但印度至少在2项子系统是强过中国的。当然如果这次中国火星四个任务(把舱送到火星引力圈,入轨ORBITOR, 软着陆 LANDER, 表面探测器ROVER)如果都完成,那么中国就全面领先印度很多了。印度基本就该暂时消停了。

-CNN在印度火星任务成功后请中印航天专家讨论“中国是否能赶上印度的航天技术”





-印度火星成功后。对巴基斯坦的震撼。170万浏览量,14000个评论





-印度在去年2019年成功用地空导弹击中它一个废弃的低轨道卫星,继美,俄,中后加入了有能力打击卫星的太空大战俱乐部


 
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热掐的印度老板最近下指标啦?:monster:

这叫战略策划,晓得伐?

看看印度2013年的火星探测吧,客观说,确实有不少可圈可点的。
-验证了印度星际导航的能力
-超星际测控能力
-印度用了非常少的资金BUDGET,达到了预期的目的。

整个印度航天的思路非常类似中国航天前期的道路。在经济很落后的情况下,集中力量,精打细算,赢得了国际地位和大国之间谈判的砝码。

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Mars Orbiter Mission
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This article is about the Mars probe from India. For other Mars orbiters, see List of Mars orbiters and List of missions to Mars.
Mars Orbiter Mission
Orbital parameters
Mars orbiter
Start of mission
Spacecraft properties
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Mars Orbiter Mission Spacecraft (illustration)
NamesMangalyaan
Mission typeMars orbiter
OperatorISRO
COSPAR ID2013-060A
SATCAT no.39370
Websitewww.isro.gov.in/pslv-c25-mars-orbiter-mission
Mission durationPlanned: 6 months[1]
Elapsed: 5 years, 8 months, 29 days
BusI-1K[2]
ManufacturerISAC
Launch mass1,337.2 kg (2,948 lb)[3]
BOL mass≈550 kg (1,210 lb)[4]
Dry mass482.5 kg (1,064 lb)[3]
Payload mass13.4 kg (30 lb)[3]
Dimensions1.5 m (4.9 ft) cube
Power840 watts[2]
Launch date5 November 2013, 09:08 UTC[5]
RocketPSLV-XL C25[6]
Launch siteSatish Dhawan FLP
ContractorISRO
Orbital insertion24 September 2014, 02:00 UTC[7]
MSD 50027 06:27 AMT
2098 days / 2042 sols
Periareon altitude421.7 km (262.0 mi)[8]
Apoareon altitude76,993.6 km (47,841.6 mi)[8]
Inclination150.0°[8]
showInstruments
Indian missions to Mars
Mars Orbiter Mission 2
The Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM), also called Mangalyaan ("Mars-craft", from Sanskrit: मंगल mangala, "Mars" and यान yāna, "craft, vehicle"),[9][10] is a space probe orbiting Mars since 24 September 2014. It was launched on 5 November 2013 by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO).[11][12][13][14] It is India's first interplanetary mission[15] and it made it the fourth space agency to reach Mars, after Roscosmos, NASA, and the European Space Agency.[16][17] It made India the first Asian nation to reach Martian orbit and the first nation in the world to do so on its maiden attempt.[18][19][20][21]
The Mars Orbiter Mission probe lifted-off from the First Launch Pad at Satish Dhawan Space Centre (Sriharikota Range SHAR), Andhra Pradesh, using a Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) rocket C25 at 09:08 UTC on 5 November 2013.[22] The launch window was approximately 20 days long and started on 28 October 2013.[5] The MOM probe spent about a month in Earth orbit, where it made a series of seven apogee-raising orbital manoeuvres before trans-Mars injection on 30 November 2013 (UTC).[23] After a 298-day transit to Mars, it was put into Mars orbit on 24 September 2014.
The mission is a "technology demonstrator" project to develop the technologies for designing, planning, management, and operations of an interplanetary mission.[24] It carries five scientific instruments.[25] The spacecraft is currently being monitored from the Spacecraft Control Centre at ISRO Telemetry, Tracking and Command Network (ISTRAC) in Bengaluru with support from the Indian Deep Space Network (IDSN) antennae at Bengaluru, Karnataka.[26]
Contents
History[edit]
On 23 November 2008, the first public acknowledgement of an uncrewed mission to Mars was announced by then-ISRO chairman G. Madhavan Nair.[27] The MOM mission concept began with a feasibility study in 2010 by the Indian Institute of Space Science and Technology after the launch of lunar satellite Chandrayaan-1 in 2008. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh approved the project on 3 August 2012,[28][29] after the Indian Space Research Organisation completed ₹125 crore (US$18 million) of required studies for the orbiter.[30] The total project cost may be up to ₹454 crore (US$64 million).[11][31] The satellite costs ₹153 crore (US$21 million) and the rest of the budget has been attributed to ground stations and relay upgrades that will be used for other ISRO projects.[32]
The space agency had planned the launch on 28 October 2013 but was postponed to 5 November following the delay in ISRO's spacecraft tracking ships to take up pre-determined positions due to poor weather in the Pacific Ocean.[5] Launch opportunities for a fuel-saving Hohmann transfer orbit occur every 26 months, in this case the next two would be in 2016 and 2018.[33]
Assembly of the PSLV-XL launch vehicle, designated C25, started on 5 August 2013.[34] The mounting of the five scientific instruments was completed at Indian Space Research Organisation Satellite Centre, Bengaluru, and the finished spacecraft was shipped to Sriharikota on 2 October 2013 for integration to the PSLV-XL launch vehicle.[34] The satellite's development was fast-tracked and completed in a record 15 months.[35] Despite the US federal government shutdown, NASA reaffirmed on 5 October 2013 it would provide communications and navigation support to the mission "with their Deep Space Network facilities.".[36] During a meeting on 30 September 2014, NASA and ISRO officials signed an agreement to establish a pathway for future joint missions to explore Mars. One of the working group's objectives will be to explore potential coordinated observations and science analysis between the MAVEN orbiter and MOM, as well as other current and future Mars missions.[37]
 
伽利略系统和GPS类似。
中国的北斗系统设计和他们不一样,有很多创新。比如增加了通讯功能。精度目前也超过GPS。
这么大系统是不可能靠复制别人而成功的。伽利略核心都在欧洲,根本不让中国参与,中国主要就是出资方,欧洲基本对中国也是排斥。并没有让中国参与核心或主要的研发。这就如同NASA也分包了一些小活给加拿大,欧洲国家。都是支离破碎的,任何NASA参与方都不可能凭分给自己的小活而自立门户单干。况且人家连活都不给中国分,知道巴黎统筹委员会吧。美国也对欧洲施压,那前些年,中美况且在蜜月期都这样,中国只能自己干。中国的强项是工业门类全,加上举国体制。中国北斗现在脱颖而出一点不奇怪,围绕北斗的还有上千亿元的北斗经济圈。


关键是导弹、卫星、激光武器都有自己的单独的导航系统。
 
这叫战略策划,晓得伐?

看看印度2013年的火星探测吧,客观说,确实有不少可圈可点的。
-验证了印度星际导航的能力
-超星际测控能力
-印度用了非常少的资金BUDGET,达到了预期的目的。

整个印度航天的思路非常类似中国航天前期的道路。在经济很落后的情况下,集中力量,精打细算,赢得了国际地位和大国之间谈判的砝码。

.

Mars Orbiter Mission
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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This article is about the Mars probe from India. For other Mars orbiters, see List of Mars orbiters and List of missions to Mars.
Mars Orbiter Mission
Spacecraft properties
Start of mission
Mars orbiter
Orbital parameters
Mars Orbiter Mission Spacecraft.jpg
Mars Orbiter Mission Spacecraft (illustration)
NamesMangalyaan
Mission typeMars orbiter
OperatorISRO
COSPAR ID2013-060A
SATCAT no.39370
Websitewww.isro.gov.in/pslv-c25-mars-orbiter-mission
Mission durationPlanned: 6 months[1]
Elapsed: 5 years, 8 months, 29 days
BusI-1K[2]
ManufacturerISAC
Launch mass1,337.2 kg (2,948 lb)[3]
BOL mass≈550 kg (1,210 lb)[4]
Dry mass482.5 kg (1,064 lb)[3]
Payload mass13.4 kg (30 lb)[3]
Dimensions1.5 m (4.9 ft) cube
Power840 watts[2]
Launch date5 November 2013, 09:08 UTC[5]
RocketPSLV-XL C25[6]
Launch siteSatish Dhawan FLP
ContractorISRO
Orbital insertion24 September 2014, 02:00 UTC[7]
MSD 50027 06:27 AMT
2098 days / 2042 sols
Periareon altitude421.7 km (262.0 mi)[8]
Apoareon altitude76,993.6 km (47,841.6 mi)[8]
Inclination150.0°[8]
showInstruments
Indian missions to Mars
Mars Orbiter Mission 2
The Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM), also called Mangalyaan ("Mars-craft", from Sanskrit: मंगल mangala, "Mars" and यान yāna, "craft, vehicle"),[9][10] is a space probe orbiting Mars since 24 September 2014. It was launched on 5 November 2013 by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO).[11][12][13][14] It is India's first interplanetary mission[15] and it made it the fourth space agency to reach Mars, after Roscosmos, NASA, and the European Space Agency.[16][17] It made India the first Asian nation to reach Martian orbit and the first nation in the world to do so on its maiden attempt.[18][19][20][21]
The Mars Orbiter Mission probe lifted-off from the First Launch Pad at Satish Dhawan Space Centre (Sriharikota Range SHAR), Andhra Pradesh, using a Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) rocket C25 at 09:08 UTC on 5 November 2013.[22] The launch window was approximately 20 days long and started on 28 October 2013.[5] The MOM probe spent about a month in Earth orbit, where it made a series of seven apogee-raising orbital manoeuvres before trans-Mars injection on 30 November 2013 (UTC).[23] After a 298-day transit to Mars, it was put into Mars orbit on 24 September 2014.
The mission is a "technology demonstrator" project to develop the technologies for designing, planning, management, and operations of an interplanetary mission.[24] It carries five scientific instruments.[25] The spacecraft is currently being monitored from the Spacecraft Control Centre at ISRO Telemetry, Tracking and Command Network (ISTRAC) in Bengaluru with support from the Indian Deep Space Network (IDSN) antennae at Bengaluru, Karnataka.[26]
Contents
History[edit]
On 23 November 2008, the first public acknowledgement of an uncrewed mission to Mars was announced by then-ISRO chairman G. Madhavan Nair.[27] The MOM mission concept began with a feasibility study in 2010 by the Indian Institute of Space Science and Technology after the launch of lunar satellite Chandrayaan-1 in 2008. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh approved the project on 3 August 2012,[28][29] after the Indian Space Research Organisation completed ₹125 crore (US$18 million) of required studies for the orbiter.[30] The total project cost may be up to ₹454 crore (US$64 million).[11][31] The satellite costs ₹153 crore (US$21 million) and the rest of the budget has been attributed to ground stations and relay upgrades that will be used for other ISRO projects.[32]
The space agency had planned the launch on 28 October 2013 but was postponed to 5 November following the delay in ISRO's spacecraft tracking ships to take up pre-determined positions due to poor weather in the Pacific Ocean.[5] Launch opportunities for a fuel-saving Hohmann transfer orbit occur every 26 months, in this case the next two would be in 2016 and 2018.[33]
Assembly of the PSLV-XL launch vehicle, designated C25, started on 5 August 2013.[34] The mounting of the five scientific instruments was completed at Indian Space Research Organisation Satellite Centre, Bengaluru, and the finished spacecraft was shipped to Sriharikota on 2 October 2013 for integration to the PSLV-XL launch vehicle.[34] The satellite's development was fast-tracked and completed in a record 15 months.[35] Despite the US federal government shutdown, NASA reaffirmed on 5 October 2013 it would provide communications and navigation support to the mission "with their Deep Space Network facilities.".[36] During a meeting on 30 September 2014, NASA and ISRO officials signed an agreement to establish a pathway for future joint missions to explore Mars. One of the working group's objectives will be to explore potential coordinated observations and science analysis between the MAVEN orbiter and MOM, as well as other current and future Mars missions.[37]


印度的火星探测器进入轨道还是没有,反正它说了算。别的国家也不能去验证。
 
伽利略系统和GPS类似。
中国的北斗系统设计和他们不一样,有很多创新。比如增加了通讯功能。精度目前也超过GPS。
这么大系统是不可能靠复制别人而成功的。伽利略核心都在欧洲,根本不让中国参与,中国主要就是出资方,欧洲基本对中国也是排斥。并没有让中国参与核心或主要的研发。这就如同NASA也分包了一些小活给加拿大,欧洲国家。都是支离破碎的,任何NASA参与方都不可能凭分给自己的小活而自立门户单干。况且人家连活都不给中国分,知道巴黎统筹委员会吧。美国也对欧洲施压,那前些年,中美况且在蜜月期都这样,中国只能自己干。中国的强项是工业门类全,加上举国体制。中国北斗现在脱颖而出一点不奇怪,围绕北斗的还有上千亿元的北斗经济圈。
台海危机时美国关闭过GPS。中国一看这东西只能用自己的
 
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