医学界，还有CFC普通读者，多是二把刀。这么明显的事儿，决然没有考虑进去。使用HCQ的国家，HCQ有病毒复制抑制作用，同时会影响人体对疫苗的反应。拿以色列说事儿。。。。
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Impact of Hydroxychloroquine on Antibody Responses to the SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus
Isabel Kinney Ferreira de Miranda Santos1,* and Carlos Henrique Nery Costa2Author information Article notes Copyright and License information
This article has been corrected. See Front Immunol. 2020 November 02; 11: 615628.
This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.
- Humoral immunity is a crucial aspect in mitigating the COVID-19 pandemic.
- Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are lysosomotropic drugs that affect antigen-presenting pathways and B-cell activation.
- Chloroquine inhibits antibody responses to vaccines, but reports about this effect apparently have not been called to the attention of investigators in the field of COVID-19.
- Studies on immunity to Sars-CoV-2 must take into account treatment regimens for COVID-19.
Introduction
Recent large observational studies indicate that hydroxychloroquine (HY) does not affect outcomes of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 (1, 2) and may even be harmful (3). Results of double-blind, randomized studies to assess efficacy of HY more rigorously are still not available. In spite of these facts, officials are currently advocating use of hydroxychloroquine (HY) for treatment and even prevention of COVID-19. In view of this situation and of the importance of correct interpretation of antibody profiles for planning preventive measures for COVID-19, we would like to bring the attention of readers to studies that raise concerns about the possible impact of HY upon antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2.Impact of Chloroquine and Derivatives on Responses to Vaccines and Antigen Presentation
In 1986, Pappaionaou et al. (4) recalled the tragic story of a Peace Corps worker in Kenya who succumbed to rabies after being bitten by her rabies-infected pet dog despite having received a full regimen of human diploid-cells rabies vaccine 6 months prior to the bite. The subject had been vaccinated while receiving chloroquine as prophylaxis for malaria. Prompted by this finding, Pappaionaou et al. carried out a randomized controlled trial that showed that chloroquine suppressed antibody responses to the rabies vaccine (4). Subsequently, Fryauff et al. demonstrated a similar effect of chloroquine, but not of primaquine, on antibody responses to tetanus and diphtheria vaccines (5). More recently, Endy et al. showed that antibody responses of individuals vaccinated with a purified chick embryo cell rabies vaccine, given on a postexposure prophylaxis schedule, were significantly lower in individuals receiving chloroquine compared with controls (6).HY and chloroquine are lysosomotropic drugs that increase the pH of the lysosome, thus affecting functions of proteins involved in antigen presenting pathways and in B-cell activation (7). To the best of our knowledge, there are no new facts in the scientific and medical literature that indicate that the same mechanism could not operate in HY-treated patients suffering from COVID-19 and negatively impact their SARS-CoV-2-specific antibody responses. Indeed, recent findings indicate that some individuals, including hospitalized patients, who have recovered from COVID-19 have not made vigorous IgG antibody responses. However, the most comprehensive publications addressing antibody responses, wherein study subjects presented viability in levels of IgG antibody responses, have not detailed the treatment regimens delivered to the subjects (8–11).
Discussion
Plans for employing immunity profiles against SARS-CoV-2 to relax social distancing and other epidemic mitigation measures and to create “immunity passports” to control spread of COVID-19 have recently been questioned by the World Health Organization because of uncertainty regarding antibody responses (12). As more needs to be learned about the role of antibodies in recovery from and protection against infection with SARS-CoV-2, the impact of HY and other treatment regimens on antibody responses requires systematic evaluation.Frontiers | Impact of Hydroxychloroquine on Antibody Responses to the SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus
Recent large observational studies indicate that hydroxychloroquine (HY) does not affect outcomes of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 [1,2] and may even b...
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只要把楼主的主贴放入google中，很容易找到这篇全文，抄写于此，文中的绿字几乎完全相同吧？
如果我没有理解错，这篇文章主要是说，HCQ的治疗作用现在基本还是未知，没有经过严格的双盲试验。
但是，却发现氯喹和羟氯喹对B细胞和疫苗产生不良作用。
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Impact of Hydroxychloroquine on Antibody Responses to the SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus
Isabel Kinney Ferreira de Miranda Santos1,* and Carlos Henrique Nery Costa2
Author information Article notes Copyright and License information
This article has been corrected. See Front Immunol. 2020 November 02; 11: 615628.
This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.
- Humoral immunity is a crucial aspect in mitigating the COVID-19 pandemic.
- Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are lysosomotropic drugs that affect antigen-presenting pathways and B-cell activation.
- Chloroquine inhibits antibody responses to vaccines, but reports about this effect apparently have not been called to the attention of investigators in the field of COVID-19.
- Studies on immunity to Sars-CoV-2 must take into account treatment regimens for COVID-19.
Introduction
Recent large observational studies indicate that hydroxychloroquine (HY) does not affect outcomes of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 (1, 2) and may even be harmful (3). Results of double-blind, randomized studies to assess efficacy of HY more rigorously are still not available. In spite of these facts, officials are currently advocating use of hydroxychloroquine (HY) for treatment and even prevention of COVID-19. In view of this situation and of the importance of correct interpretation of antibody profiles for planning preventive measures for COVID-19, we would like to bring the attention of readers to studies that raise concerns about the possible impact of HY upon antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2.
Impact of Chloroquine and Derivatives on Responses to Vaccines and Antigen Presentation
In 1986, Pappaionaou et al. (4) recalled the tragic story of a Peace Corps worker in Kenya who succumbed to rabies after being bitten by her rabies-infected pet dog despite having received a full regimen of human diploid-cells rabies vaccine 6 months prior to the bite. The subject had been vaccinated while receiving chloroquine as prophylaxis for malaria. Prompted by this finding, Pappaionaou et al. carried out a randomized controlled trial that showed that chloroquine suppressed antibody responses to the rabies vaccine (4). Subsequently, Fryauff et al. demonstrated a similar effect of chloroquine, but not of primaquine, on antibody responses to tetanus and diphtheria vaccines (5). More recently, Endy et al. showed that antibody responses of individuals vaccinated with a purified chick embryo cell rabies vaccine, given on a postexposure prophylaxis schedule, were significantly lower in individuals receiving chloroquine compared with controls (6).
HY and chloroquine are lysosomotropic drugs that increase the pH of the lysosome, thus affecting functions of proteins involved in antigen presenting pathways and in B-cell activation (7). To the best of our knowledge, there are no new facts in the scientific and medical literature that indicate that the same mechanism could not operate in HY-treated patients suffering from COVID-19 and negatively impact their SARS-CoV-2-specific antibody responses. Indeed, recent findings indicate that some individuals, including hospitalized patients, who have recovered from COVID-19 have not made vigorous IgG antibody responses. However, the most comprehensive publications addressing antibody responses, wherein study subjects presented viability in levels of IgG antibody responses, have not detailed the treatment regimens delivered to the subjects (8–11).
Discussion
Plans for employing immunity profiles against SARS-CoV-2 to relax social distancing and other epidemic mitigation measures and to create “immunity passports” to control spread of COVID-19 have recently been questioned by the World Health Organization because of uncertainty regarding antibody responses (12). As more needs to be learned about the role of antibodies in recovery from and protection against infection with SARS-CoV-2, the impact of HY and other treatment regimens on antibody responses requires systematic evaluation.
只要把楼主的主贴放入google中，很容易找到这篇全文，抄写于此，文中的绿字几乎完全相同吧？
如果我没有理解错，这篇文章主要是说，HCQ的治疗作用现在基本还是未知，没有经过严格的双盲试验。
但是，却发现氯喹和羟氯喹对B细胞和疫苗产生不良作用。
哈哈，为什么会影响疫苗的反应？因为有效。非常简单。
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这就是你对这段的理解？帮你翻译一下大意：我认为你找了一篇不利的论据，也就是说，你根本就没有读懂全文，就把似是而非的前4行贴上来忽悠人。
这位医生在1986年发现，肯尼亚人被携带狂犬病的宠物咬伤后，完整疫苗却没有发挥出应有的作用，就是因为患者使用过防治疟疾的氯喹。受到这个病例的启发，这位医生进行了随机对照试验，发现：氯喹抑制狂犬疫苗的抗体反应。随后其他几位医生也发现氯喹对破伤风，白喉疫苗也有类似的抑制反应。
Impact of Chloroquine and Derivatives on Responses to Vaccines and Antigen Presentation
In 1986, Pappaionaou et al. (4) recalled the tragic story of a Peace Corps worker in Kenya who succumbed to rabies after being bitten by her rabies-infected pet dog despite having received a full regimen of human diploid-cells rabies vaccine 6 months prior to the bite. The subject had been vaccinated while receiving chloroquine as prophylaxis for malaria. Prompted by this finding, Pappaionaou et al. carried out a randomized controlled trial that showed that chloroquine suppressed antibody responses to the rabies vaccine (4). Subsequently, Fryauff et al. demonstrated a similar effect of chloroquine, but not of primaquine, on antibody responses to tetanus and diphtheria vaccines (5). More recently, Endy et al. showed that antibody responses of individuals vaccinated with a purified chick embryo cell rabies vaccine, given on a postexposure prophylaxis schedule, were significantly lower in individuals receiving chloroquine compared with controls (6).
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