方舟子说:实际使用效果证明美国疫苗有效而中国疫苗无效

目前没有疫苗通过Phase 3 吧,只是紧急批准使用。
 
我现在对他也比较反感。但反感归反感,事实归事实。不知视频中具体哪一点让你觉得是假的或错的?
谢谢转发的视频。注意到他说的比较重要的两点:

1. 中国没有公布临床实验结果。有没有人知道他说的是不是实际情况?如果是,中国不公布临床实验结果的原因是什么?

2. 秘鲁一个医院有12个医务人员打了中国疫苗后仍然感染了病毒,其中7人情况严重,进了ICU。由于进ICU人数占感染人数比例太高,他提出了疫苗起反作用的可能性。有没有人了解此事?中方对此有没有辟谣或解释?
1. 我觉得中国没有必要自己再公布三期试验结果。一是中国自己没有第一手数据,二是国外作过的数据不管是正面的,负面的都已经公布了。
2. 如果是我,或者是更外行一点儿的人说这话,有情可原。它不管怎么说是相关领域的博士,实在是贻笑大方。听听他对“疫苗反作用”的解释,哈哈灭活疫苗不但没有有效的抗体,反而有可能有些其它没有用的抗体。它当灭活疫苗是老太太腌酸菜啊。作为博士,应该知道引用数据或者例证要有可靠的出处,某记者说,某医院?12个打了疫苗的都感染,并且7个进ICU这么严重的事情,在这么多国家,这么大的试验范围内都没发现?要么这个是谣言,要么所有第三方国家都在帮助中国作假。
3. 再听听他后面关于中国开始在国内推广疫苗的厥词,是他妈的人话吗?
 
图里9种疫苗的确都是 approved for early use,那也是在 III 期临床试验的基础上的。

举个例子,Moderna的要十月才结束P3的呢。你找其他的都一样。



A Study to Evaluate Efficacy, Safety, and Immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 Vaccine in Adults Aged 18 Years and Older to Prevent COVID-19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov



Study Description


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Brief Summary:

The mRNA-1273 vaccine is being developed to prevent COVID-19, the disease resulting from Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) infection. The study is designed to primarily evaluate the efficacy, safety, and immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 to prevent COVID-19 for up to 2 years after the second dose of mRNA-1273.



Condition or disease
Intervention/treatment
Phase
SARS-CoV-2Biological: mRNA-1273Biological: PlaceboPhase 3



Detailed Description:

This is a 2-part Phase 3 study, with Part A (Blinded Phase) and Part B (Open-label Observational Phase). Participants in Part A are blinded to their treatment assignment, with participants receiving either 2 active mRNA-1273 vaccine doses or placebo. Part B of the study is designed to offer participants to be unblinded so that participants who received placebo in Part A can request 2 doses of open-label mRNA-1273 vaccine. Additionally, participants who choose to be unblinded and was only able to receive 1 dose of mRNA-1273 due to administrative reasons, can choose to receive the second dose of mRNA-1273 during Part B.

Please access www.modernatx.com/cove-study for additional information, such as Study Overview, Participation, and Site Locations along with contact numbers for each location for the study.

Study Design

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Study Type :​
Interventional (Clinical Trial)
Actual Enrollment :​
30420 participants
Allocation:​
Randomized
Intervention Model:​
Parallel Assignment
Masking:​
Quadruple (Participant, Care Provider, Investigator, Outcomes Assessor)
Masking Description:​
Part A is observer-blind. During Part B participants may request to be unblinded by scheduling a Participant Decision clinic visit.
Primary Purpose:​
Prevention
Official Title:​
A Phase 3, Randomized, Stratified, Observer-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Study to Evaluate the Efficacy, Safety, and Immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine in Adults Aged 18 Years and Older
Actual Study Start Date :​
July 27, 2020
Estimated Primary Completion Date :​
October 27, 2022
Estimated Study Completion Date :​
October 27, 2022
Moderna疫苗都没complete的

 
例子正确,但 Phase III clinical trial 是可以先出 interim analysis 或者阶段结果,得到 regulatory approval 然后继续做下去的,目的是继续确认、拓展人群 subgroups、增大样本量。
举个例子,Moderna的要十月才结束P3的呢。你找其他的都一样。



A Study to Evaluate Efficacy, Safety, and Immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 Vaccine in Adults Aged 18 Years and Older to Prevent COVID-19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov



Study Description


Go to

Brief Summary:

The mRNA-1273 vaccine is being developed to prevent COVID-19, the disease resulting from Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) infection. The study is designed to primarily evaluate the efficacy, safety, and immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 to prevent COVID-19 for up to 2 years after the second dose of mRNA-1273.



Condition or disease
Intervention/treatment
Phase
SARS-CoV-2Biological: mRNA-1273Biological: PlaceboPhase 3



Detailed Description:

This is a 2-part Phase 3 study, with Part A (Blinded Phase) and Part B (Open-label Observational Phase). Participants in Part A are blinded to their treatment assignment, with participants receiving either 2 active mRNA-1273 vaccine doses or placebo. Part B of the study is designed to offer participants to be unblinded so that participants who received placebo in Part A can request 2 doses of open-label mRNA-1273 vaccine. Additionally, participants who choose to be unblinded and was only able to receive 1 dose of mRNA-1273 due to administrative reasons, can choose to receive the second dose of mRNA-1273 during Part B.

Please access www.modernatx.com/cove-study for additional information, such as Study Overview, Participation, and Site Locations along with contact numbers for each location for the study.

Study Design

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Study Type :​
Interventional (Clinical Trial)
Actual Enrollment :​
30420 participants
Allocation:​
Randomized
Intervention Model:​
Parallel Assignment
Masking:​
Quadruple (Participant, Care Provider, Investigator, Outcomes Assessor)
Masking Description:​
Part A is observer-blind. During Part B participants may request to be unblinded by scheduling a Participant Decision clinic visit.
Primary Purpose:​
Prevention
Official Title:​
A Phase 3, Randomized, Stratified, Observer-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Study to Evaluate the Efficacy, Safety, and Immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine in Adults Aged 18 Years and Older
Actual Study Start Date :​
July 27, 2020
Estimated Primary Completion Date :​
October 27, 2022
Estimated Study Completion Date :​
October 27, 2022
Moderna疫苗都没complete的

 
最后编辑:
这个比较可以翻篇了,辉瑞中国两种疫苗摆在前面选择,再粉红也知道选哪个,何必去费力说服,让人保持嘴瘾的快乐有何不好。
这个如果是出于立场的比较应该翻篇,但是出于学习和搞清事实的目的,不应该翻篇。说我不是什么粉红你们可能不同意,我的选择是,我可能接受辉瑞,但是有得选的话,我是坚决主张我儿子打灭活疫苗。
 
举个例子,Moderna的要十月才结束P3的呢。你找其他的都一样。



A Study to Evaluate Efficacy, Safety, and Immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 Vaccine in Adults Aged 18 Years and Older to Prevent COVID-19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov



Study Description


Go to

Brief Summary:

The mRNA-1273 vaccine is being developed to prevent COVID-19, the disease resulting from Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) infection. The study is designed to primarily evaluate the efficacy, safety, and immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 to prevent COVID-19 for up to 2 years after the second dose of mRNA-1273.



Condition or disease
Intervention/treatment
Phase
SARS-CoV-2Biological: mRNA-1273Biological: PlaceboPhase 3



Detailed Description:

This is a 2-part Phase 3 study, with Part A (Blinded Phase) and Part B (Open-label Observational Phase). Participants in Part A are blinded to their treatment assignment, with participants receiving either 2 active mRNA-1273 vaccine doses or placebo. Part B of the study is designed to offer participants to be unblinded so that participants who received placebo in Part A can request 2 doses of open-label mRNA-1273 vaccine. Additionally, participants who choose to be unblinded and was only able to receive 1 dose of mRNA-1273 due to administrative reasons, can choose to receive the second dose of mRNA-1273 during Part B.

Please access www.modernatx.com/cove-study for additional information, such as Study Overview, Participation, and Site Locations along with contact numbers for each location for the study.

Study Design

Go to

Study Type :​
Interventional (Clinical Trial)
Actual Enrollment :​
30420 participants
Allocation:​
Randomized
Intervention Model:​
Parallel Assignment
Masking:​
Quadruple (Participant, Care Provider, Investigator, Outcomes Assessor)
Masking Description:​
Part A is observer-blind. During Part B participants may request to be unblinded by scheduling a Participant Decision clinic visit.
Primary Purpose:​
Prevention
Official Title:​
A Phase 3, Randomized, Stratified, Observer-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Study to Evaluate the Efficacy, Safety, and Immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine in Adults Aged 18 Years and Older
Actual Study Start Date :​
July 27, 2020
Estimated Primary Completion Date :​
October 27, 2022
Estimated Study Completion Date :​
October 27, 2022
Moderna疫苗都没complete的

不会吧?我记得这几个批准的疫苗都已经完成了三期试验了。

Moderna Announces Primary Efficacy Analysis in Phase 3 COVE Study for Its COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate and Filing Today with U.S. FDA for Emergency Use Authorization​

November 30, 2020 at 6:59 AM EST
PDF Version
Primary efficacy analysis of the Phase 3 COVE study of mRNA-1273 involving 30,000 participants included 196 cases of COVID-19, of which 30 cases were severe
Vaccine efficacy against COVID-19 was 94.1%; vaccine efficacy against severe COVID-19 was 100%
mRNA-1273 continues to be generally well tolerated; no serious safety concerns identified to date
Phase 3 COVE Study has exceeded 2 months of median follow-up post vaccination as required by the U.S. FDA for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)
Moderna plans today to request EUA from the U.S. FDA, to apply for a conditional marketing authorization with the European Medicines Agency (EMA) and to progress with the rolling reviews, which have already been initiated with international regulatory agencies
FDA has told Company to expect VRBPAC meeting for mRNA-1273 likely on December 17, 2020


CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 30, 2020-- Moderna, Inc. (Nasdaq: MRNA), a biotechnology company pioneering messenger RNA (mRNA) therapeutics and vaccines to create a new generation of transformative medicines for patients, today announced that the primary efficacy analysis of the Phase 3 study of mRNA-1273 conducted on 196 cases confirms the high efficacy observed at the first interim analysis. The data analysis indicates a vaccine efficacy of 94.1%. Safety data continue to accrue and the study continues to be monitored by an independent, NIH-appointed Data Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB). The Company also announced that today, Moderna plans to request an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and conditional approval from the European Medicines Agency (EMA). The Phase 3 study, known as the COVE study, enrolled more than 30,000 participants in the U.S. and is being conducted in collaboration with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), part of the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

The primary endpoint of the Phase 3 COVE study is based on the analysis of COVID-19 cases confirmed and adjudicated starting two weeks following the second dose of vaccine. Vaccine efficacy has been demonstrated at the first interim analysis with a total of 95 cases based on the pre-specified success criterion on efficacy. Today’s primary analysis was based on 196 cases, of which 185 cases of COVID-19 were observed in the placebo group versus 11 cases observed in the mRNA-1273 group, resulting in a point estimate of vaccine efficacy of 94.1%. A secondary endpoint analyzed severe cases of COVID-19 and included 30 severe cases (as defined in the study protocol) in this analysis. All 30 cases occurred in the placebo group and none in the mRNA-1273 vaccinated group. There was one COVID-19-related death in the study to date, which occurred in the placebo group.

Efficacy was consistent across age, race and ethnicity, and gender demographics. The 196 COVID-19 cases included 33 older adults (ages 65+) and 42 participants identifying as being from diverse communities (including 29 Hispanic or LatinX, 6 Black or African Americans, 4 Asian Americans and 3 multiracial participants).

The safety profile of the Phase 3 study of mRNA-1273 was previously described on November 16. A continuous review of safety data is ongoing and no new serious safety concerns have been identified by the Company. Based on prior analysis, the most common solicited adverse reactions included injection site pain, fatigue, myalgia, arthralgia, headache, and erythema/redness at the injection site. Solicited adverse reactions increased in frequency and severity in the mRNA-1273 group after the second dose.

The Company will submit data from the Phase 3 COVE study to a peer-reviewed publication.

“This positive primary analysis confirms the ability of our vaccine to prevent COVID-19 disease with 94.1% efficacy and importantly, the ability to prevent severe COVID-19 disease. We believe that our vaccine will provide a new and powerful tool that may change the course of this pandemic and help prevent severe disease, hospitalizations and death,” said Stéphane Bancel, Chief Executive Officer of Moderna. “I want to thank the thousands of participants in our Phase 1, Phase 2 and Phase 3 studies, as well as the staff at clinical trial sites who have been on the front lines of the fight against the virus. I would again like to thank our partners at NIH, NIAID, BARDA and Operation Warp Speed who have helped us advance the clinical development of mRNA-1273. Finally, I want to thank the Moderna team and our suppliers and partners for their tireless work on the research, development and manufacturing of our vaccine. We will file today for an Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA and continue forging ahead with the rolling reviews that have already been initiated with several regulatory agencies around the globe.”

Today, Moderna will submit for an EUA with the U.S. FDA and an application for Conditional Marketing Authorization (CMA) with the European Medicines Agency. The Company has already initiated the rolling review process with the EMA, Health Canada, SwissMedic, the United Kingdom Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), Ministry of Health in Israel, and Health Sciences Authority in Singapore and intends to seek Prequalification (PQ) and/or Emergency Use Listing (EUL) with the World Health Organization (WHO).

Additionally, Moderna announced that the FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) meeting to review the safety and efficacy data package for mRNA-1273 will likely be scheduled for Thursday, December 17. The Company expects that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) will make a recommendation on immunization priorities. The Company anticipates that the shipping of mRNA-1273 to designated distribution points throughout the U.S. will occur shortly after an Emergency Use Authorization is granted.

Moderna is working with the U.S. CDC, Operation Warp Speed and McKesson (NYSE: MCK), a COVID-19 vaccine distributor contracted by the U.S. government, as well as global stakeholders to be prepared for distribution of mRNA-1273, in the event that it receives an EUA and similar global authorizations and approvals. By the end of 2020, the Company expects to have approximately 20 million doses of mRNA-1273 available in the U.S. The Company remains on track to manufacture 500 million to 1 billion doses globally in 2021. On November 10, the American Medical Association (AMA) issued a Current Procedural Terminology (CPT) code to report vaccination with mRNA-1273 (code: 91301). Moderna recently announced further progress towards ensuring the distribution, storage and handling of the vaccine can be done using existing infrastructure.

To learn more about Moderna’s work on mRNA-1273, visit www.modernatx.com/COVID19.

 
这个病不存在群体免疫。病毒一直在变异。体内抗体也消失得很快。

中国的网格化管理,监控每个居民的行踪,现在看来依然是唯一有效的非疫苗抗疫手段
也只能国内有效,西方基本行不通。群体免疫还是可能。
 
谢谢转发的视频。注意到他说的比较重要的两点:

1. 中国没有公布临床实验结果。有没有人知道他说的是不是实际情况?如果是,中国不公布临床实验结果的原因是什么?

2. 秘鲁一个医院有12个医务人员打了中国疫苗后仍然感染了病毒,其中7人情况严重,进了ICU。由于进ICU人数占感染人数比例太高,他提出了疫苗起反作用的可能性。有没有人了解此事?中方对此有没有辟谣或解释?

对于2. 如果证实,确实证明疫苗有问题,是爆炸性新闻。我刚才网上谷歌了一下,没有这方面的新闻。如果谁发现这个新闻贴出来大家看一下。

这种爆炸性新闻西方媒体最喜欢报道,如果有,没有理由不大规模出现。如果是传闻,方舟子就是自己砸自己
 
Phase III 还可以继续做、拓展人群 subgroups、增大样本量。注册临床试验时的 Estimated study completion date 并不是不可变通的,可以基于有效性、安全性提前结束 (比如安全性不够、有效性不够可以提前结束,安全性、有效性得到验证后也可以为了安慰剂对照组的人尽早施打疫苗而提前结束)。

不会吧?我记得这几个批准的疫苗都已经完成了三期试验了。

Moderna Announces Primary Efficacy Analysis in Phase 3 COVE Study for Its COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate and Filing Today with U.S. FDA for Emergency Use Authorization​

November 30, 2020 at 6:59 AM EST
PDF Version
Primary efficacy analysis of the Phase 3 COVE study of mRNA-1273 involving 30,000 participants included 196 cases of COVID-19, of which 30 cases were severe
Vaccine efficacy against COVID-19 was 94.1%; vaccine efficacy against severe COVID-19 was 100%
mRNA-1273 continues to be generally well tolerated; no serious safety concerns identified to date
Phase 3 COVE Study has exceeded 2 months of median follow-up post vaccination as required by the U.S. FDA for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)
Moderna plans today to request EUA from the U.S. FDA, to apply for a conditional marketing authorization with the European Medicines Agency (EMA) and to progress with the rolling reviews, which have already been initiated with international regulatory agencies
FDA has told Company to expect VRBPAC meeting for mRNA-1273 likely on December 17, 2020


CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 30, 2020-- Moderna, Inc. (Nasdaq: MRNA), a biotechnology company pioneering messenger RNA (mRNA) therapeutics and vaccines to create a new generation of transformative medicines for patients, today announced that the primary efficacy analysis of the Phase 3 study of mRNA-1273 conducted on 196 cases confirms the high efficacy observed at the first interim analysis. The data analysis indicates a vaccine efficacy of 94.1%. Safety data continue to accrue and the study continues to be monitored by an independent, NIH-appointed Data Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB). The Company also announced that today, Moderna plans to request an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and conditional approval from the European Medicines Agency (EMA). The Phase 3 study, known as the COVE study, enrolled more than 30,000 participants in the U.S. and is being conducted in collaboration with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), part of the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

The primary endpoint of the Phase 3 COVE study is based on the analysis of COVID-19 cases confirmed and adjudicated starting two weeks following the second dose of vaccine. Vaccine efficacy has been demonstrated at the first interim analysis with a total of 95 cases based on the pre-specified success criterion on efficacy. Today’s primary analysis was based on 196 cases, of which 185 cases of COVID-19 were observed in the placebo group versus 11 cases observed in the mRNA-1273 group, resulting in a point estimate of vaccine efficacy of 94.1%. A secondary endpoint analyzed severe cases of COVID-19 and included 30 severe cases (as defined in the study protocol) in this analysis. All 30 cases occurred in the placebo group and none in the mRNA-1273 vaccinated group. There was one COVID-19-related death in the study to date, which occurred in the placebo group.

Efficacy was consistent across age, race and ethnicity, and gender demographics. The 196 COVID-19 cases included 33 older adults (ages 65+) and 42 participants identifying as being from diverse communities (including 29 Hispanic or LatinX, 6 Black or African Americans, 4 Asian Americans and 3 multiracial participants).

The safety profile of the Phase 3 study of mRNA-1273 was previously described on November 16. A continuous review of safety data is ongoing and no new serious safety concerns have been identified by the Company. Based on prior analysis, the most common solicited adverse reactions included injection site pain, fatigue, myalgia, arthralgia, headache, and erythema/redness at the injection site. Solicited adverse reactions increased in frequency and severity in the mRNA-1273 group after the second dose.

The Company will submit data from the Phase 3 COVE study to a peer-reviewed publication.

“This positive primary analysis confirms the ability of our vaccine to prevent COVID-19 disease with 94.1% efficacy and importantly, the ability to prevent severe COVID-19 disease. We believe that our vaccine will provide a new and powerful tool that may change the course of this pandemic and help prevent severe disease, hospitalizations and death,” said Stéphane Bancel, Chief Executive Officer of Moderna. “I want to thank the thousands of participants in our Phase 1, Phase 2 and Phase 3 studies, as well as the staff at clinical trial sites who have been on the front lines of the fight against the virus. I would again like to thank our partners at NIH, NIAID, BARDA and Operation Warp Speed who have helped us advance the clinical development of mRNA-1273. Finally, I want to thank the Moderna team and our suppliers and partners for their tireless work on the research, development and manufacturing of our vaccine. We will file today for an Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA and continue forging ahead with the rolling reviews that have already been initiated with several regulatory agencies around the globe.”

Today, Moderna will submit for an EUA with the U.S. FDA and an application for Conditional Marketing Authorization (CMA) with the European Medicines Agency. The Company has already initiated the rolling review process with the EMA, Health Canada, SwissMedic, the United Kingdom Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), Ministry of Health in Israel, and Health Sciences Authority in Singapore and intends to seek Prequalification (PQ) and/or Emergency Use Listing (EUL) with the World Health Organization (WHO).

Additionally, Moderna announced that the FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) meeting to review the safety and efficacy data package for mRNA-1273 will likely be scheduled for Thursday, December 17. The Company expects that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) will make a recommendation on immunization priorities. The Company anticipates that the shipping of mRNA-1273 to designated distribution points throughout the U.S. will occur shortly after an Emergency Use Authorization is granted.

Moderna is working with the U.S. CDC, Operation Warp Speed and McKesson (NYSE: MCK), a COVID-19 vaccine distributor contracted by the U.S. government, as well as global stakeholders to be prepared for distribution of mRNA-1273, in the event that it receives an EUA and similar global authorizations and approvals. By the end of 2020, the Company expects to have approximately 20 million doses of mRNA-1273 available in the U.S. The Company remains on track to manufacture 500 million to 1 billion doses globally in 2021. On November 10, the American Medical Association (AMA) issued a Current Procedural Terminology (CPT) code to report vaccination with mRNA-1273 (code: 91301). Moderna recently announced further progress towards ensuring the distribution, storage and handling of the vaccine can be done using existing infrastructure.

To learn more about Moderna’s work on mRNA-1273, visit www.modernatx.com/COVID19.

 
对于2. 如果证实,确实证明疫苗有问题,是爆炸性新闻。我刚才网上谷歌了一下,没有这方面的新闻。如果谁发现这个新闻贴出来大家看一下。

这种爆炸性新闻西方媒体最喜欢报道,如果有,没有理由不大规模出现。如果是传闻,方舟子就是自己砸自己
从黄金大米试验开始,他已经砸自己很多年了。
 
Phase III 还可以继续做、拓展人群 subgroups、增大样本量。注册临床试验时的 Estimated study completion date 也并不是不可变通的,可以基于有效性、安全性提前结束。
我记得是几个疫苗都先跳过了部分人群的试验,16,18岁以下,孕妇等,所有是有条件批准,以后这些人群的试验都在补做中,有些已经完成。

这些都是紧急情况下,通过一部分,先打一部分人。
 
从黄金大米试验开始,他已经砸自己很多年了。
刚才查Peru,倒是出现了秘鲁一个大规模丑闻,一些有钱有势的人在做临床试验的时候,就偷偷打了中国疫苗。
曝光这么大的新闻没有出处起码多疑吧,咱们CFC大家也是贴出新闻来源,虽然很多人有不同的解释或者Cherry picking挑选不同的新闻来源
 
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