英国提倡自然免疫，估计有30%自然免疫的，再加疫苗，美帝比不上COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
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看数字，还是英帝国的疫苗好啊。米帝一天八万，印度一天十三万五，秘鲁和俄帝都小一万。英帝只有三千，这是什么原理？
你们下得很多结论是不是太轻易了？如果没记错的话，印度也是打得牛津疫苗吧？COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
看数字，还是英帝国的疫苗好啊。米帝一天八万，印度一天十三万五，秘鲁和俄帝都小一万。英帝只有三千，这是什么原理？
我有一个疑问自然免疫和灭活疫苗的效果是不是一样的 还是自然免疫的效果更好一点
但是好多人工疫苗 都是灭活疫苗比如天花呀什么的也是100%或者接近100%的有效力
英国感染人数比例排38位，在它前面的那些国家是不是更应当都达到群体免疫了？
| # | Country, Other | Total Cases | New Cases | Total Deaths | New Deaths | Total Recovered | Active Cases | Serious, Critical | Tot Cases/ 1M pop | Deaths/ 1M pop | Total Tests | Tests/ 1M pop | Population |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Andorra | 12,409 | 120 | 11,692 | 597 | 12 | 160,406 | 1,551 | 193,595 | 2,502,521 | 77,360 | ||
| 2 | Montenegro | 93,566 | 1,345 | 87,388 | 4,833 | 69 | 148,960 | 2,141 | 348,152 | 554,270 | 628,127 | ||
| 3 | Czechia | 1,567,848 | 27,466 | 1,434,281 | 106,101 | 1,349 | 146,196 | 2,561 | 13,812,844 | 1,287,997 | 10,724,279 | ||
| 4 | San Marino | 4,932 | 85 | 4,411 | 436 | 10 | 145,119 | 2,501 | 55,350 | 1,628,612 | 33,986 | ||
| 5 | Gibraltar | 4,276 | 94 | 4,178 | 4 | 126,948 | 2,791 | 218,120 | 6,475,670 | 33,683 | |||
| 6 | Slovenia | 223,416 | 4,097 | 205,655 | 13,664 | 129 | 107,455 | 1,971 | 1,091,068 | 524,764 | 2,079,158 | ||
| 7 | Luxembourg | 63,180 | 762 | 58,874 | 3,544 | 30 | 99,688 | 1,202 | 2,478,479 | 3,910,661 | 633,775 | ||
| 8 | USA | 31,717,404 | 573,856 | 24,272,869 | 6,870,679 | 9,121 | 95,392 | 1,726 | 415,167,153 | 1,248,642 | 332,494,997 | ||
| 9 | Aruba | 9,896 | 92 | 9,205 | 599 | 14 | 92,387 | 859 | 132,894 | 1,240,667 | 107,115 | ||
| 10 | St. Barth | 907 | 1 | 462 | 444 | 91,616 | 101 | 26,385 | 2,665,152 | 9,900 | |||
| 11 | Israel | 835,486 | 6,279 | 824,748 | 4,459 | 280 | 90,837 | 683 | 13,686,147 | 1,488,014 | 9,197,590 | ||
| 12 | Bahrain | 153,074 | 548 | 141,911 | 10,615 | 72 | 87,647 | 314 | 3,724,104 | 2,132,340 | 1,746,487 | ||
| 13 | Estonia | 112,421 | 990 | 91,789 | 19,642 | 70 | 84,704 | 746 | 1,181,481 | 890,191 | 1,327,222 | ||
| 14 | Sweden | 849,629 | 13,595 | N/A | N/A | 345 | 83,726 | 1,340 | 7,530,772 | 742,118 | 10,147,676 | ||
| 15 | Lithuania | 223,127 | 3,647 | 203,803 | 15,677 | 161 | 82,858 | 1,354 | 2,446,061 | 908,341 | 2,692,888 | ||
| 16 | Panama | 357,704 | 6,152 | 347,060 | 4,492 | 105 | 81,915 | 1,409 | 2,214,840 | 507,202 | 4,366,782 | ||
| 17 | Portugal | 825,633 | 16,899 | 782,895 | 25,839 | 122 | 81,153 | 1,661 | 9,363,361 | 920,343 | 10,173,778 | ||
| 18 | Belgium | 908,212 | 23,301 | 58,568 | 826,343 | 898 | 78,103 | 2,004 | 11,511,956 | 989,984 | 11,628,425 | ||
| 19 | Netherlands | 1,327,136 | 16,691 | N/A | N/A | 788 | 77,321 | 972 | 10,795,845 | 628,980 | 17,164,061 | ||
| 20 | France | 4,939,258 | 98,065 | 303,639 | 4,537,554 | 5,729 | 75,541 | 1,500 | 68,007,540 | 1,040,114 | 65,384,711 | ||
| 21 | Serbia | 633,013 | 5,620 | 541,317 | 86,076 | 265 | 72,675 | 645 | 3,547,832 | 407,318 | 8,710,216 | ||
| 22 | Hungary | 698,490 | 22,681 | 419,765 | 256,044 | 1,337 | 72,447 | 2,352 | 4,825,607 | 500,507 | 9,641,434 | ||
| 23 | Lebanon | 489,428 | 6,549 | 395,261 | 87,618 | 880 | 71,955 | 963 | 3,653,828 | 537,181 | 6,801,858 | ||
| 24 | Georgia | 286,406 | 3,849 | 276,084 | 6,473 | 71,902 | 966 | 3,584,251 | 899,828 | 3,983,263 | |||
| 25 | Spain | 3,336,637 | 76,179 | 3,088,946 | 171,512 | 2,024 | 71,343 | 1,629 | 43,458,915 | 929,230 | 46,768,730 | ||
| 26 | Liechtenstein | 2,714 | 56 | 2,605 | 53 | 4 | 71,025 | 1,466 | 32,252 | 844,028 | 38,212 | ||
| 27 | Switzerland | 615,024 | 10,445 | 556,090 | 48,489 | 189 | 70,666 | 1,200 | 6,300,365 | 723,909 | 8,703,258 | ||
| 28 | Croatia | 285,765 | 6,185 | 266,813 | 12,767 | 171 | 69,942 | 1,514 | 1,610,669 | 394,219 | 4,085,720 | ||
| 29 | Mayotte | 19,408 | 167 | 2,964 | 16,277 | 8 | 69,854 | 601 | 159,240 | 573,142 | 277,837 | ||
| 30 | Slovakia | 368,470 | 10,322 | 255,300 | 102,848 | 576 | 67,465 | 1,890 | 2,411,744 | 441,576 | 5,461,679 | ||
| 31 | Armenia | 200,129 | 3,675 | 179,043 | 17,411 | 67,440 | 1,238 | 889,872 | 299,872 | 2,967,508 | |||
| 32 | North Macedonia | 138,891 | 4,108 | 112,619 | 22,164 | 124 | 66,668 | 1,972 | 655,924 | 314,847 | 2,083,308 | ||
| 33 | Qatar | 187,150 | 322 | 168,001 | 18,827 | 428 | 66,653 | 115 | 1,786,516 | 636,268 | 2,807,805 | ||
| 34 | Malta | 29,463 | 401 | 28,508 | 554 | 66,591 | 906 | 826,461 | 1,867,928 | 442,448 | |||
| 35 | Poland | 2,499,507 | 56,659 | 2,076,504 | 366,344 | 3,362 | 66,099 | 1,498 | 12,700,278 | 335,856 | 37,814,661 | ||
| 36 | French Polynesia | 18,647 | 141 | 4,842 | 13,664 | 2 | 66,087 | 500 | 26,355 | 93,405 | 282,157 | ||
| 37 | Curaçao | 10,632 | 60 | 5,942 | 4,630 | 22 | 64,589 | 365 | 81,316 | 493,995 | 164,609 | ||
| 38 | UK | 4,370,321 | 126,980 | 3,945,354 | 297,987 | 440 | 64,118 | 1,863 | 133,233,062 | 1,954,703 | 68,160,254 |
我还有一个问题就是自然免疫的英国人会不会还会得病 比如说遇到的是南非变种
应该自然免疫比任何疫苗效果都好，因为二次感染者目前为止报道的不到10个，应该免疫率接近100%
好像自然免疫防变种的不一定有效，有报道用恢复病人的血浆抗体，对于变异效果比较差
我的理解两个作用是一样的，只是剂量控制，疫苗剂量控制好，刚好产生抗体，同时又去了毒性，就不会大力伤害身体。而自然免疫当大剂量感染时，在身体还没有足够时间产生抗体前就被病毒大规模攻击了。
我没有提及加拿大啊。你这个群体免疫的概念怎么理解？感染数占测试数的比率，那是有人极力反对的阳性率。
