加拿大是分裂了么? 特鲁多的自由党选举大会被保守党支持者谩骂威胁搅黄,并因安全原因被迫取消

说你疯,你还不承认。 这回选举最大的几个议题和孟没一毛钱关系,你是不管啥事都往你的斗争方向引导,你是否很偏执?

这回加拿大选举争议最主要的是疫苗政策。

自由党支持政府和社会强制疫苗和疫苗护照,如果没有接种疫苗或疫苗护照,就会在职场或社会场所,雇主或业主可以采取措施。

民意统计74%的加拿大支持疫苗政策。保守党支持者这么闹革命,嘿,依我看还真搞错了方向。

The Conservative policy may not be the most popular one. A CTV News poll recently showed that 74% of Canadians either strongly or somewhat support mandatory vaccines at work for people who can be vaccinated.

首先你的74%的数据不知道从何而来。 其次, my body is my body, 你凭什么用74%的身体要求去要求另外26%的身体, 这是违宪的, 当然民众可以竖中指 ,可以骂娘, 只有你的自由是自由, 别人的自由不是自由?

外交政策一定会是政党竞选重要的拼图, 疫苗政策也不是联邦一级来定, 需要省一级一起定。 但是出国的疫苗护照呢? 加拿大的出口经济呢?两个麦克呢?移民政策呢? 这些当然都是两党竞选时候需要考虑进去的东西
 
首先你的74%的数据不知道从何而来。 其次, my body is my body, 你凭什么用74%的身体要求去要求另外26%的身体, 这是违宪的, 当然民众可以竖中指 ,可以骂娘, 只有你的自由是自由, 别人的自由不是自由?

外交政策一定会是政党竞选重要的拼图, 疫苗政策也不是联邦一级来定, 需要省一级一起定。 但是出国的疫苗护照呢? 加拿大的出口经济呢?两个麦克呢?移民政策呢? 这些当然都是两党竞选时候需要考虑进去的东西

74%支持疫苗政策和疫苗护照的统计源自非政府资助的CTV。而不是有政府资助的CBC


AGAR: The truth about the Liberals' mandatory vaccine policy​

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Jerry Agar
Publishing date:
Aug 16, 2021 • August 16, 2021 • 2 minute read • 36 Comments
A syringe and a vial labelled COVID-19 vaccine are placed on a passport with printed words COVID-19 vaccinated in this illustration taken April 27, 2021.
A syringe and a vial labelled "COVID-19 vaccine" are placed on a passport with printed words "COVID-19 vaccinated" in this illustration taken April 27, 2021. PHOTO BY DADO RUVIC /REUTERS

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Right off the top, we have an important election issue to deal with: mandatory vaccines for federal workers.

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The Liberals are for it and the Conservatives are not.




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If it were that simple, you would have your choice. But it isn’t that simple.

The Conservative policy may not be the most popular one. A CTV News poll recently showed that 74% of Canadians either strongly or somewhat support mandatory vaccines at work for people who can be vaccinated.

The Liberals say they are for mandatory vaccines, but how will they police that? Will an employee who refuses to get vaccinated be fired?

They won’t say. Party spokespeople, when asked, have mumbled about people who have exemptions and allowing administrators in workplaces to make decisions.

That is the classic political non-answer. A real answer would be: “We will allow people to show that they cannot be vaccinated, and we will deal with that on an individual basis, but, across the board, if people choose not to be vaccinated, they will have chosen not to work in the federal service.”

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Voters can deal with sort of policy statement.

The Liberals want to have their cake and eat it, too. They are claiming to act tough on vaccines, but they are signaling to the federal service that they don’t really mean it.

The Liberals seem to be signaling a suggestion, not a mandate. To borrow from Mark Twain, the difference between a mandate and a suggestion is the difference between lightning and the lightning bug.




Social media is alive with armchair lawyers saying that a mandate would be illegal.

Actual employment lawyer Howard Levitt says otherwise: “If Parliament passes legislation requiring employees, who work closely with others in federally regulated industries, to be vaccinated as a term of employment, then an employee refusing to do so will lose their jobs and will have no recourse. The reason for that is two-fold.

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“First, Parliament has the jurisdiction to pass such laws regarding federally regulated employees and, like other laws within its domain, it is binding.

Levitt continues: “Second, all employers have the right to require employees, who must work closely with others, to vaccinate. The only exceptions, in both cases, because of both the Charter and Human Rights legislation, are employees who have legitimate medical and religious exemptions who must be accommodated to the extent that is possible by, for example, letting them work from home if feasible or requiring daily testing and PPEs.”

Does it make a difference if the employees are unionized? Levitt says, “Not theoretically but there is less predictability in what an arbitrator may decide.”

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Who would fall under the mandate of federally regulated employees? A thumbnail version of the list is: airports and air transportation, banks, First Nations band councils, Canada Post, ports, borders, bridges etc. as well as trucks, trains and busses that cross provincial and international borders, radio and TV broadcasters, telecommunications and federal employees.

Also, Parliament. If the Liberals win and put in a policy, do MPs have to resign if not vaccinated? Will all Liberal candidates be vaccinated as of now?

So, where does that leave us? Unless the Liberals are more declarative about a mandate with teeth, it is unlikely to happen.

But that doesn’t mean individual employers will not soon adopt their own mandate. Legally they can, and some will.
 
俺觉得虽然现在保守党党领先一点,但是保不准最后几天那些抗议活动演变成暴力冲突,然后土豆翻盘一下成就多数政府。
 
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