中国是否有向美国摊牌的准备和能力？

[阿搜]

想要咬文嚼字的:几年前的说法不代表就不是现在的说法.

不想咬文嚼字的:台湾独立就开打没的说.

 

[胡说之]

台湾公投早就有想法了,起初是用建立核电站为公投议题.当初国台办的反映强烈程度,决不亚于今天.

咬文嚼字就是在收缩底线.看来现在没有准备好.

 

[阿搜]

准不准备好,想不想打,讨论太多了.
那您说底线是什么呢?
今天如果台湾独立,你说没准备好,不打,可能吗?

 

[胡说之]

当然可能.底线一直在退缩,现在还不知道要退到什么程度.

两国论-->
公投-->
公投不设限-->

后面还有余地:
独立议题不入公投-->
独立公投不付诸实践-->
公投结果不独立.....

至于大陆的强烈反应是否影响到两岸经贸交流或人员往来等，张铭清表示，「不希望会有所影响」。---- 再明白不过了,就是不想打.

 

[一把手]

最初由 Sawol 发布
准不准备好,想不想打,讨论太多了.
那您说底线是什么呢?
今天如果台湾独立,你说没准备好,不打,可能吗?

台湾 is actually 独立的. They just have not declared it. Otherwise, why don't we send CCP representitive to Taiwan?

I think the 底线 is:

A) elite group can stay in power
B) their personal interests in US won't be at risk

It depends on how our elite group protect their kids(US citizens) and properties in US if they want to start a war. Do you agree?

 

[一把手]

最初由 TWU_lover 发布
看你们讨论挺有意思的

继续继续

We are entertaining you? It's not free. I will mail you a bill.

 

[一把手]

最初由 Sawol 发布
to msft:

虽然您可能不支持台独,但是您好像支持公投.
您知道公投的象征意义吗?

If the people in Taiwan don't like independence, why is 公投 a big deal?

 

[十里马]

最初由 msft 发布


If the people in Taiwan don't like independence, why is 公投 a big deal?

因为不能开地方公投决定能否独立的先例.

 

[一把手]

最初由 十里马 发布

因为不能开地方公投决定能否独立的先例.

Whose 先例? China's? In China, what 公投 has a 先例?

 

[十里马]

最初由 msft 发布


Whose 先例? China's? In China, what 公投 has a 先例?

sorry, I do not get your point.

 

[一把手]

最初由 十里马 发布

sorry, I do not get your point.

"因为不能开地方公投决定能否独立的先例. "

Your statement is a little bit funny, because:

A)To us, we never had 公投, so any 公投 is 开先例.

B)To them, they voted and selected their own president.

 

[十里马]

最初由 msft 发布


"因为不能开地方公投决定能否独立的先例. "

Your statement is a little bit funny, because:

A)To us, we never had 公投, so any 公投 is 开先例.

B)To them, they voted and selected their own president.

it is another issue. you cannot mix them up.

 

[一把手]

最初由 十里马 发布

it is another issue. you cannot mix them up.

So, we should know what the word "shame" means when we are telling them what is good for 公投 - we never had one.

I am not saying the island is not China's, but I feel the way we have been dealing with this issue is ridiculous.

 

[freelly]

china has the abilities and capabilities to do so.