5-11岁儿童疫苗, 美国有510万接种, 发现8例心肌炎, 有200+万己双针(12月16日数据更新)

以前是登机之前测PCR, 入境后不测, 就有假阴性漏网入境的。现在要求所有人入境后都测, 别管从哪国来


根据发布会的内容,Kieran Moore博士首先向大家介绍了昨天确诊的两个病例,这两名在渥太华确诊了Omicron变种的人是近期刚从尼日利亚旅行回来的,并且是从蒙特利尔机场入境。

另一个值得注意的点,尼日利亚并不在加拿大政府周五宣布禁飞的非洲七国当中。


也正是因此,Kieran Moore博士表示,目前联邦政府的旅行禁令没有多大意义,“这种病毒已经在全球存在了许多、许多星期甚至数月,只防这七个国家没啥效果。

我们应该对所有返加旅客进行检测,这样更加稳妥。”
我们应该对所有返加旅客进行检测,这样更加稳妥” :good::good::good:
 
我们应该对所有返加旅客进行检测,这样更加稳妥” :good::good::good:

我觉得这对保护学校安全尤其重要。我自己完全接种、在家上班、全网购curb side pick up, 所以觉得对我本人影响不大。但是孩子们上个学年:
1、大部分孩子由于学校关门, 宅家6+5=11个月
2、一部分孩子去年全网课, 一口气宅了18个月
3、还有孩子至今仍网课, 宅了21个月了。。。

盼望学校越来越安全:
1、己经返校的孩子, 不必回家
2、还在宅家的孩子, 能够返校
:jiayou:
 

加拿大旅行新规正式生效!

根据联邦政府在10月初宣布的旅行新规,加拿大全国将正式从11月30日起,要求所有乘坐飞机、火车、轮船的旅客必须提供疫苗接种证明。

之前,旅客是可以用阴性证明代替疫苗接种证明登机的,但是新规将不再允许,没有接种疫苗的旅客将失去乘坐国内交通工具的资格。

以上规定是对年满12岁后4个月以上的人。
 

Travel with unvaccinated children​

Unvaccinated children under 12 years and 4 months of age don’t require a COVID-19 test to travel within or depart Canada. International destinations may have different requirements.”

COVID-19 Boarding flights and trains in Canada – Travel.gc.ca

Vaccination requirements to board a flight, train or ship in Canada, starting October 30, 2021.
travel.gc.ca
 
Ottawa public health从12月2日到23日,在不同的学校开始课后(after school hour)疫苗接种clinic。

 
勇敢的家长们,有没有想过在个案中如果其中一个是你的孩子,你还敢说安全,个别案例吗?我想你想杀了政府都有可能。在说服自己是安全的时候,其实也是不知道是否安全的,打了没病就是自己赢了,安全了。有病,向谁哭去。问一问自己的内心,有必要吗?小孩新冠康复率99%。
 
勇敢的家长们,有没有想过在个案中如果其中一个是你的孩子,你还敢说安全,个别案例吗?我想你想杀了政府都有可能。在说服自己是安全的时候,其实也是不知道是否安全的,打了没病就是自己赢了,安全了。有病,向谁哭去。问一问自己的内心,有必要吗?小孩新冠康复率99%。
你过于乐观了,

疫苗药物的副作用不仅仅是短暂的反应,长期副作用,根本没有实验和观察。你主动给孩子打,等于是卖了孩子当小猪,还给人数钞票。

仅仅举两个可能的问题的例子
1 心肌受伤害,哪怕没有症状,也是不可恢复的。
2 DNA损伤,可以有长期隐藏的副作用,孕妇婴儿,小孩子要很小心

当然了,如果疫苗效能超高。95%防感染,逼着孩子打疫苗,至少,是对社会的贡献,在集体主义国家,可以理解。
 
勇敢的家长们,有没有想过在个案中如果其中一个是你的孩子,你还敢说安全,个别案例吗?
没人敢说绝对安全。 世上不存在绝对的安全。

连开车上路都有风险, 而且风险还不小。但也不能就把汽车废了吧:)

所以要比较利弊, 看哪个更值。两害相权, 取其轻, 是不是?

小孩新冠康复率99%。
我不记得具体数字, 但我同意, 就是儿童重症不多, 大家不要忧心过度、紧张过度。

但同时, 疫苗没有严重副作用的概率, 可要大大高于99%了。
 
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上周四, 我村卫生官接受电视采访, 讲解5到11岁儿童接种, 回答听众20个问题

Is there concern about myocarditis in the 5 to 11 age group?
关于本年龄组的心肌炎
"Based on the studies that have been done so far in children 5 to 11, it hasn't been detected. So myocarditis is an inflammation of the heart, and it has been seen in older age groups - usually older teenagers, young adults, more so in men, more so after the second dose. So it's something we're looking out for, and we do want to make sure, of course, if people have something that seems not right after a vaccine to let us know. There's a safety system to monitor for anything serious after vaccines and to investigate that."

Will there be enough Pfizer vaccine to ensure second shots for children? Can we avoid mixing vaccines as happened in adults?
关于两针不混打
"At this point, we have enough doses for every child between five and 11 to have their first dose in Canada, in Ontario and coming to Ottawa. We know that interval for the second dose is recommended to be eight weeks, and so we expect the supply to be there for that time as well. So enough supply, supply is not a problem. At this point the only vaccine that we have approved for children is the Pfizer one, so that is the vaccine we will be using

Grade 2 student Sadie asked, "Why did they start making vaccines for children?
给儿童接种的目的
"I'm sure I don't have to tell you, I think you know how hard this pandemic has been for children. The COVID made your school disrupted, you've had to be home from school, it's meant you can't gather in your friend's houses the same way. So, people want to protect children from getting the infection and that vaccine is what can do that. It can prevent you from getting that COVID and make sure that we can get back to some of the things that we enjoy," said Etches.

"So people were interested in stopping the spread of COVID, and that includes making sure children don't get sick."

A parent said their son is 5, and they're wondering, "As it has not been approved for those under 5, if my son is more vulnerable to any adverse reactions or complications because he is close to the cut-off age?"
刚满5岁的男童
"This vaccine has been shown to be safe and effective in children who are five, and it's even being studied now in younger ages as well. We feel very comfortable, there were no serious side effects reported in this age group and we recommend that anyone who is turning 5 this year can book an appointment."

Grade 3 student Willow asks, "If we get the vaccine, will we be able to go to more places and do more activities?"
接种后能否更自由活动
"Willow, that is the idea absolutely! You've been missing out being able to go to some of your sports activities, whether that's hockey or dance, to join in kids in after-school groups or even go to a restaurant where there are crowds or there are more people gathering, children just haven't had that protection from the vaccine. So when you have that - and it's going to take two doses, two little boosts to strengthen your immune system - then you can have really a lot of confidence, you can feel good protection to go forward and do more things."
 
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Grade 4 student Serene asks, "If you've already had COVID-19 and you get the vaccine, what will happen? Will it have the same effect as someone who never had COVID-19?"
如果孩子己经得过新冠
"We do want people who had COVID before to get the vaccine because it's more protection. It's like extra training for your immune system to fight off any COVID that comes around again. That can happen; it is still in our community. We think it might actually be some of the best protection you can have if you had an infection and then you get the vaccine afterwards, based on what we're seeing in older kids."

Should children with heart murmurs get vaccinated?
如果孩子有心脏杂音
"The vaccine is important for children who have chronic conditions. It can be very important to protect children with heart conditions – heart murmurs are not always serious. If you have questions about an active, serious heart condition like myocarditis is to check in with your regular health care provider."
 
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听谁?​

辉瑞:可预防Omicron严重疾病,特别第3针!​

莫德纳:效力会大幅下降​


在周二的采访中, BioNTech SE co-Founder Dr. Ugur Sahin说, 虽然新变种更容易感染, 但接种过的人群很可能并不易重症。

由于变种容易逃逸疫苗导致的抗体, 所以容易侵入人体导致感染。但进入人体后, 病毒很可能仍被免疫细胞截获消灭。T cell是第二道防线, 减少重症。

他还说, 根据疫苗作用的原理和各种变种的生物学结构, 他相信接种疫苗的人发生突破感染后也不易重症, 这一点已在其它发生突破感染的变种上验证。

他认为现阶段重点应是用己有疫苗打第三针。他认为重新开发针对变种的疫苗需要100天左右上市, 但他认为不一定有必要。

以上访谈发表于莫德纳高管周二早间的访谈之后。莫德纳高管预测, 现有疫苗效力对新变种显著下降, 但因为没有数据, 所以还不能确定究竟降多大。该公司相信其目前的新冠疫苗,在针对Omicron变种方面,相比于其他毒株,产生的有效抗体可能会减少八倍。公司仍然需要2-6周的时间,才能真正了解当前疫苗的效果。这番话引起股市下跌

两家mRNA疫苗厂家今天给出不同的信息,辉瑞说可以预防Omicron 病毒变体引起的严重疾病,特别是打完第三针会有一层额外保护,但莫德纳却警告称当前疫苗对Omicron保护可能会大幅下降。

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多伦多全科医院传染病专家艾萨克·博戈奇(Isaac Bogoch)博士说,加拿大人不应该听从疫苗公司首席执行官的每一句话。

“我想听听正在进行实际研究的科学家的意见,听听他们的想法和所见。”

博戈奇并补充说,未来几周疫苗的功效将更加清晰。

博戈奇认为疫苗在对抗 COVID-19 的斗争中仍将被证明是有用的

博戈奇强调说:“出现一种完全消除疫苗保护免疫力的变种是非常不寻常的。” “它可能会削弱一些有效性,但我们的疫苗或疫苗计划现在忽然变得毫无用处,这是非常不寻常的。”



三种意见,到底哪个对?听谁好呢?
 
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本来就不确定, 现在还没有实验证明疫苗真的有用。 他珲瑞凭什么说有用。也可能omicron本身就轻症。结论需要evidence based.
 
本来就不确定, 现在还没有实验证明疫苗真的有用。 他珲瑞凭什么说有用。也可能omicron本身就轻症。结论需要evidence based.
这三方(辉瑞-生物科技、莫德纳、多伦多传染病医生)都说是根据原理的推测(likely)可能性。目前谁也没有结论。

需要2-6周收集分析足够的数据以后、 才有可能出结论。
 
讲常识吧,辉瑞连delta都拦不住,何谈convid21.

真是。
 
而且有意思的是, 上周六本来辉瑞更倾向于100天上市更新版, 莫德纳考虑用老版打加强针, 今天这俩药厂的立场似乎对换了。

而欧美加政府的态度似乎是认为:
1、需要两三个月以后新变种才会占主流, 现在就以不变应变
2、也需要三四个月才能批准更新版疫苗。
2、老版疫苗保护效力对变种会减弱, 但总比完全没保护好
所以还是建议公众抓紧打。
 
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