有个疑问，卡车大闹渥太华产生的额外安全费用只能让我们居民均摊？

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堵了几条路是真，但是，渥太华的哪一栋大楼哪一座民房给占领了？这个“占领渥太华“的帽子扣得很不科学

占领是省长说的

 

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听说你刚立志投奔白左，就这么快学会了白左的hypocrisy。2020年初土著人堵铁路，土豆政府和他们谈，你就靠着自己的想象不记得这回事了吗？

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/indigenous-services-marc-miller-tyendinaga-meeting-1.5462264

这个没办法，占领渥太华的不是土著人

 

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示威刚开始时是违法的吗？这些人刚到渥太华时就是“违法犯罪份子”？

我的理解是一开始就违法了，但要两天就自己走了，可能不算犯罪

 

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人家来是反强制，结果被你来个强制他人反强制，别搞笑拉。

那你说说是先有鸡还是先有蛋

 

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那你说说是先有鸡还是先有蛋

没事抬这杠，就为不缴费吗？
矫正你的逻辑混乱，正确答案是先有鸡后有蛋
快交费去吧。 前几天跳着脚打鸣市中心是村里人的，要这权力那权利的，缴费时就不是村里人的了？让外地人看笑话不好嘛

 

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那你说说是先有鸡还是先有蛋

这都什么乱七八糟的。
原本就是土豆强制在先，卡车反强制在后。2年了，你难道还喜欢被强？强的意义又在哪，不该认真反思一下吗，那么多国家已经取消强制了，若加拿大仍然坚持强制，土豆不该给个解释吗？

 

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我的理解是一开始就违法了，但要两天就自己走了，可能不算犯罪

卡车最多算违反bylaw,不算违法，但土豆政府已经违宪了，这就是他为什么坚持紧急状态法，为了给自己续命。

 

[gocanoeing]

这都什么乱七八糟的。
原本就是土豆强制在先，卡车反强制在后。2年了，你难道还喜欢被强？强的意义又在哪，不该认真反思一下吗，那么多国家已经取消强制了，若加拿大仍然坚持强制，土豆不该给个解释吗？

卡车最多算违反bylaw,不算违法，但土豆政府已经违宪了，这就是他为什么坚持紧急状态法，为了给自己续命。

这些都是你的想像

首先不存在强制，顶多就是不打疫苗不能过境免隔离而已，这不等于强制，而且这个规定对所有人有效

其次，说违宪是你的个人看法，法律上无效，只有最高法院才能决定是不是违宪

 

[ztbll]

这些都是你的想像

首先不存在强制，顶多就是不打疫苗不能过境免隔离而已，这不等于强制，而且这个规定对所有人有效

其次，说违宪是你的个人看法，法律上无效，只有最高法院才能决定是不是违宪

何谓强制呢，被剥夺工作没有收入养家算不算强制？按你的逻辑即使不打疫苗就被砍头，也不算强制，因为你可以选择被看头啊，当然没强制。

 

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何谓强制呢，被剥夺工作没有收入养家算不算强制？按你的逻辑即使不打疫苗就被砍头，也不算强制，因为你可以选择被看头啊，当然没强制。

不能无限引申

坚持不打疫苗可以选择过境接受隔离，跑加拿大国内线，选择其他工作。。。。

选择很多，完全不等于强制

 

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不能无限引申

坚持不打疫苗可以选择过境接受隔离，跑加拿大国内线，选择其他工作。。。。

选择很多，完全不等于强制

非常有限的引申，强制=非志愿。 所以不管如何偷换概念，模糊逻辑，强制就是强制。

 

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非常有限的引申，强制=非志愿。 所以不管如何偷换概念，模糊逻辑，强制就是强制。

恰当的说服不能算强制

比如冻结账户以便让某些违法犯罪份子结束违法犯罪，那能算强制吗，我认为不算，那只是一种非暴力的说服方式

 

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恰当的说服不能算强制

比如冻结账户以便让某些违法犯罪份子结束违法犯罪，那能算强制吗，我认为不算，那只是一种非暴力的说服方式

冻结账户是强制手段中最为下作的方式，没有超级萎谢的人品是做不出来的，比关小黑屋里饿两天还下作。也正是因为土豆的下作无底线教育了人民，人民知道怎么做了。

 

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冻结账户是强制手段中最为下作的方式，没有超级萎谢的人品是做不出来的，比关小黑屋里饿两天还下作。也正是因为土豆的下作无底线教育了人民，人民知道怎么做了。

这个没办法，不用非暴力的说服方式，用暴力的说服方式某些人可能会更不满

 

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'Watch That Horse Video’: Canada Police Probe Alleged Officers' Texts After Convoy Protesters Trampled By Police Horse - Including Woman On A Mobility Scooter in Ottawa

The messages are downright horrifying.

conservativebrief.com

“Remember this image. Remember what Trudeau did to Canada,” internet commentator Ian Miles Cheong wrote in a tweet along with a picture of two protesters, one next to a walking device, who had reportedly been knocked to the ground by police officers on horseback.

Video he posted appeared to confirm that. He wrote, “Trudeau is stamping out freedom. One trampled protester at a time,” adding, “Remember Ottawa.”..


“This material is not representative of those who have committed themselves to serving Canadians with integrity and professionalism,” it said.

“Since the beginning, our members have worked tirelessly alongside our municipal and provincial policing partners in Ottawa and across the country to end illegal blockades and unlawful protests safely and peacefully.

“All members of the RCMP know that, whether on or off duty, they have a responsibility to hold themselves to the highest professional standards and are subject to the Code of Conduct of the RCMP at all times. This includes acting with integrity, fairness, and impartiality, and avoiding any potential conflicts between their professional responsibilities and private interests,” the group said.

“The RCMP has put in place measures to ensure the continued integrity of police operations as well as the safety of our members,” it said.

Canadian Police on Friday moved in to break up the more than three-week-old “Freedom Convoy” demonstration in the capital of Ottawa, as video and photos of the action posted on social media appeared to shock many people.

Police used tear gas and horses to break up the protest, and “in doing so, authorities appeared to trample one elderly woman using a walker as well as running over other protesters” with mounted officers, The Daily Wire noted.

“Numerous others were tear-gassed. Around the world, individuals reacted with disgust to the ‘tyranny’ on display in the Western nation,” the outlet continued.

Reports noted that while the police crackdown initially was peaceful, by evening in Ottawa it had turned more confrontational and violent.

Many of the crowd control measures implemented by Ottawa police were caught on video or camera.

市中心的居民喜获平静，我虽然不住市中心，也支持他们

某些人要抗议可以在自己家抗议，不要影响他人