盖楼收集被证实的乌军战果,可以显示主要战事究竟在哪里:2月25日基辅外围

顿涅茨克、卢甘斯克接触线上的乌军会被南侧控制了 Melitopol 的俄军夹击,如果当地26日开始传出哈尔科夫州方向的俄军向南,可能合围。

基辅市的西北、西侧已经被封锁,会不会被东北侧 切尔尼戈夫 方向和 东侧 苏梅州 方向的俄军压缩空间,要看推进速度。(北、东也将被封)

北侧的动向,liveuamap 在删对乌方军心不利的内容,截图可以看
https://bbs.comefromchina.com/threads/1785859/

俄罗斯开始2天,还是有节制,下手没那么狠。

几个西方的军事观察大师都说了,俄军几个做法违背现代正常大战流程。

-没有出动无人机。
-没有出现大规模围歼战。

依我看,几个原因
- 普金之前一直说俄乌都是斯拉夫兄弟,他只是想铲除那个政府,并不想造成太多普通乌克兰人死亡,多次喊话让乌军将士放下武器,都不抓了,只要放下武器,放行回家。
- 无人机如果上场,那将是对乌克兰地面武装无差别摧毁,就没有希望投降了。
- 媒体有几个击中居民楼或残骸落入居民区的镜头,但看得出并非故意,前者是准头有误差,后者是坠毁,无法控制。居民和记者都能和俄军车辆并行拍照说话等等,二战时候不是这个样子的。

现在乌克兰有全民抗战的苗头,开始无差别给居民发枪了,这就会导致局面恶化,俄军之前行动的没有滥杀的理性,是否会继续,不好说,俄军现在这打法是会导致更多俄军地面部队伤亡的,现在俄军伤亡率已经上去了。 据说俄罗斯要调10000巷战最狠的车臣军队进城了。。。
 
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顿涅茨克、卢甘斯克接触线上的乌军会被南侧控制了 Malitopol 的俄军夹击,如果当地26日开始传出哈尔科夫州方向的俄军向南,则是合围。

基辅市的西北、西侧已经被封锁,会不会被东北侧 切尔尼戈夫 方向和 东侧 苏梅州 方向的俄军压缩空间,要看推进速度。(北、东也将被封)

错, 我看这局面,前2天,俄罗斯伤亡惨重。那个第一批占领基辅机场后又被乌克兰夺回,第一批的几百特种兵基本都被歼了。

现在乌克兰全民发枪,俄罗斯现在很不妙。
 
VDV 区区二百人的直升机低空突破空降,安东诺夫机场被乌军夺回后 VDV 占据了附近的要道,坚持到援军赶到,会师完成了基辅西侧的封锁。

北侧的动向,liveuamap 在删对乌方军心不利的内容,截图可以看
https://bbs.comefromchina.com/threads/1785859/

错, 我看这局面,前2天,俄罗斯伤亡惨重。那个第一批占领基辅机场后又被乌克兰夺回,第一批的几百特种兵基本都被歼了。

现在乌克兰全民发枪,俄罗斯现在很不妙。
 
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感觉乌克兰人还是蛮勇敢的,老毛子啃到硬骨头了。如果失败了,普金是不是该下台了
 
感觉乌克兰人还是蛮勇敢的,老毛子啃到硬骨头了。如果失败了,普金是不是该下台了

如果这3天乌克兰不服软,普金不得不要派车臣兵打巷战了,这将非常血腥。那些背后鼓动冲突,鼓动巷战,鼓动全民皆兵的,真狠,都不是好人。
 
如果这3天乌克兰不服软,普金不得不要派车臣兵打巷战了,这将非常血腥。那些背后鼓动冲突,鼓动巷战,鼓动全民皆兵的,真狠,都不是好人。
大毛在二毛周边集兵十九万,目前出动了三分之一。
 
如果这3天乌克兰不服软,普金不得不要派车臣兵打巷战了,这将非常血腥。那些背后鼓动冲突,鼓动巷战,鼓动全民皆兵的,真狠,都不是好人。
全民兼兵对小国来说也是无奈之举啊,尤其是靠着俄罗斯这样的庞大独裁国家,除非放弃独立。
 
车臣部队已经进入乌克兰了,看来乌克兰拒绝妥协或投降,普金要派车臣部队打巷战了

 
乌克兰肯定是顶不住的,迟早的事。希望百姓少遭殃。
问题是拿下乌克兰之后普京打算干啥呢? 合并?长期占领?扶持傀儡政府?
 
三个北约成员国向乌克兰伸出援手。

捷克承诺向乌克兰运输价值850万美元的武器装备。

荷兰将提供200枚防空毒刺导弹。

葡萄牙总理宣布派175名步兵增援。

53 min ago

Czech Republic, Netherlands and Portugal will send reinforcements to assist Ukraine​

From CNN’s Sharon Braithwaite, Josh Pennington and Duarte Mendonça

Three NATO members have announced they would send reinforcements to assist Ukraine in its battle against Russia.

The Czech Republic committed on Saturday to send a “shipment of weapons to Ukraine” worth over $8.5 million to a “place of Ukrainians choice."

“The government has approved a shipment of weapons to Ukraine. We are sending machine guns, submachine guns, sniper rifles and pistols and their corresponding ammunition valued at CZK 188 million,” Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala tweeted.

“We are doing everything we can to help Ukraine,” Fiala added.

The Netherlands on Saturday also said it would be providing Ukraine with more firepower.

“The Netherlands will supply Ukraine 200 anti-aircraft Stinger missiles. Other defence material already on its way,” the prime minister's foreign affairs and defense adviser, Geoffrey van Leeuwen, tweeted.

Portuguese Prime Minister Antonio Costa said Friday that the country would be sending reinforcements to join Ukrainian soldiers on the ground to help secure their borders as this “is a war against the freedom of self-determination of a democratic country and therefore it is also a war against the freedom of self-determination and against democracy."

Speaking at a televised news conference, the Portuguese prime minister went on to say, “there was an unanimity of all states, in view of the need to strengthen the NATO presence on the borders of Ukraine and in all the alliance countries that are close to the Ukraine region."

“Portugal, in this sense, in addition to the forces that this year has assigned to the European command of NATO, decided to anticipate, from the second half to the first half, the mobilization and commitment of an infantry company that will act in Romania and that will be projected in the coming weeks," Costa said.

"Several other countries at the moment are either anticipating or reinforcing or deciding to reinforce their participation with these countries [bordering Ukraine] in order to have a clear manifestation of unity and deterrence regarding Russia's actions," Costa added.

When asked for a specific number of that would be sent to support Ukraine, Costa said the infantry company would include 175 troopers.
 
德国这回不送头盔和枕头了,将支援乌克兰1000反坦克武器,500毒刺导弹。

1 hr 46 min ago

Germany will deliver anti-tank weapons and missiles to Ukraine​

From Inke Kappeler in Berlin

Germany will deliver weapons to Ukraine in a major policy shift after resisting Kyiv's previous calls for defensive weaponry.

In its coalition agreement, the German government had agreed on a restrictive arms export policy that does not allow any weapons deliveries to crisis regions. The delivery of such weapons also has historical connotations post-World War II.

"The Russian attack marks a change in times. It is our duty to support Ukraine as much as we can defending themselves against Putin's invasion army. Therefore we will deliver 1,000 antitank weapons and 500 stinger missiles to our friends in Ukraine," German Chancellor Olaf Scholz tweeted Saturday after a meeting with Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki and Lithuania's President Gitanas Nauseda.
 
葡萄牙派175名步兵是去罗马尼亚,对乌克兰来说没有什么实际意义。

便携式防空导弹也不知道什么时候运,可以通过波兰、罗马尼亚送入乌克兰西部,比如利沃夫。

三个北约成员国向乌克兰伸出援手。

捷克承诺向乌克兰运输价值850万美元的武器装备。

荷兰将提供200枚防空毒刺导弹。

葡萄牙总理宣布派175名步兵增援。

53 min ago

Czech Republic, Netherlands and Portugal will send reinforcements to assist Ukraine​

From CNN’s Sharon Braithwaite, Josh Pennington and Duarte Mendonça

Three NATO members have announced they would send reinforcements to assist Ukraine in its battle against Russia.

The Czech Republic committed on Saturday to send a “shipment of weapons to Ukraine” worth over $8.5 million to a “place of Ukrainians choice."

“The government has approved a shipment of weapons to Ukraine. We are sending machine guns, submachine guns, sniper rifles and pistols and their corresponding ammunition valued at CZK 188 million,” Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala tweeted.

“We are doing everything we can to help Ukraine,” Fiala added.

The Netherlands on Saturday also said it would be providing Ukraine with more firepower.

“The Netherlands will supply Ukraine 200 anti-aircraft Stinger missiles. Other defence material already on its way,” the prime minister's foreign affairs and defense adviser, Geoffrey van Leeuwen, tweeted.

Portuguese Prime Minister Antonio Costa said Friday that the country would be sending reinforcements to join Ukrainian soldiers on the ground to help secure their borders as this “is a war against the freedom of self-determination of a democratic country and therefore it is also a war against the freedom of self-determination and against democracy."

Speaking at a televised news conference, the Portuguese prime minister went on to say, “there was an unanimity of all states, in view of the need to strengthen the NATO presence on the borders of Ukraine and in all the alliance countries that are close to the Ukraine region."

“Portugal, in this sense, in addition to the forces that this year has assigned to the European command of NATO, decided to anticipate, from the second half to the first half, the mobilization and commitment of an infantry company that will act in Romania and that will be projected in the coming weeks," Costa said.

"Several other countries at the moment are either anticipating or reinforcing or deciding to reinforce their participation with these countries [bordering Ukraine] in order to have a clear manifestation of unity and deterrence regarding Russia's actions," Costa added.

When asked for a specific number of that would be sent to support Ukraine, Costa said the infantry company would include 175 troopers.
 
乌克兰肯定是顶不住的,迟早的事。希望百姓少遭殃。
问题是拿下乌克兰之后普京打算干啥呢? 合并?长期占领?扶持傀儡政府?
乌克兰有4.5千万人,看俄军数量,不像要拿下乌克兰架势,不知普京的“去军事化”具体啥意思
 
如果这3天乌克兰不服软,普金不得不要派车臣兵打巷战了,这将非常血腥。那些背后鼓动冲突,鼓动巷战,鼓动全民皆兵的,真狠,都不是好人。
你是在骂老蒋吗?你咋跟汪精卫主席一个调调?

7月17日,蒋介石在庐山发表著名的“最后关头”演说和《对卢沟桥事件之严正声明》,指出“再没有妥协的机会,如果放弃尺寸土地与主权,便是中华民族的千古罪人”,“如果战端一开,那就是地无分南北,人无分老幼,无论何人,皆有守土抗战之责任,皆抱定牺牲一切之决心。我们只有牺牲到底,抗战到底,惟有牺牲的决心,才能博得最后的胜利”。
 
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