彻底躺平,尊重自然选择:'Infection doesn't protect you': Getting COVID twice more common as immunity wanes, experts say

大家还是小心一点好。

英国虽然以前有过那么多死亡淘汰的和自然感染的,但现在重症数字又冲高了,英格兰医院压力很大,医护因病缺勤和长期过劳离职严重,另外长期积压的其他病患无法就诊。这样严重透支医疗资源压垮医疗系统的情况对所有人都不利,谁都不敢说自己和家人肯定不需要看任何病

忘了从哪里读到的,说奥米中招后保护期是两个月三个月,但也因人而异,有人长些有人短些。

看来以后的趋势就是:
1、如果小心防护,每年中招一两次???
2、如果比较放飞,每年中招三五次???
所以即使全民过筛,小心和不小心还是会有区别的

力所能及小心些,利己利人

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英国最近死亡率比前一段高峰还高,可能跟英国解除邮寄免费测试剂有关,看死亡率,现在英国很可能比前一阵感染的人要高
英国阳性不隔离,完全无视病毒传播,才是完全躺平了。其它国家还没有。

在英国,这应该是,病毒造成的最严重的后果了,估计后面会一浪比一浪小。这一波英国的感染数字正在快速下降通道。

英国经验说明,共存是一个长期渐进的过程,需要一年甚至更长的时间,渐渐达到社会生活和医院的正常化。

共存是一件复杂的工程,不是有些人想的一下子全不管了。
 
最后编辑:
Rapid antigen test kits 是于病毒共存的必备品, 有症状就测, 安心在家隔离, 5 天很快过去, life keeps going.
那快速检测的意义何在?症状厉害直接去医院如何?
 
那快速检测的意义何在?症状厉害直接去医院如何?
家人之间隔离?比喻孩子搬出去或者大学住了,让他暂时不要回来。
或者做思想准备,不要剧烈运动等等
 
那快速检测的意义何在?症状厉害直接去医院如何?
现在这个variant 和感冒很像,测试阳性后安心在家隔离5天。实际上是6 天,OPH 的例子是,4月10日症状出现,4月15日晚11:59 pm 隔离期结束,4月16日上学上班。
如果不测试,当感冒、过敏 or whatever, 没有隔离期。
 
这篇文章有点儿意思,有些新东西和OPH的不一样:

1. 现在这个variant 病灶在咽喉,口腔和扁桃体,做swab的时候,除了鼻腔,还要swab 口腔。
2. 打了疫苗的人,在感染初期,症状更明显。
3. 打了疫苗的人,在症状结束后,传染力才开始。有点儿沮丧,真希望不是真的。

 
恐怕学校里很多人都没有遵守隔离, 中招了之后当感冒处理, 两三天以后退烧了就不戴口罩上学, 没有在家蹲6天, 也没返校后戴5天口罩。

恐怕这是学校里疫情泛滥全班先后中招的原因。
 

'Infection doesn't protect you': Getting COVID twice is more common as immunity wanes​

Reinfection with BA.2 common in 10 per cent of cases where patient has already had BA.1

Author of the article: The Canadian Press Mickey Djuric
Publishing date: Apr 11, 2022 • 5 hours ago • 3 minute read • Join the conversation

Files: Rapid test kits for COVID-19


Files: Rapid test kits for COVID-19 PHOTO BY CHRIS YOUNG /The Canadian Press

Christine Enns said she was shocked when a rapid test showed she had tested positive for COVID-19.

Enns, who received two doses of COVID-19 vaccine and a booster shot, already had the virus in early February and thought reinfection was rare.

“I started feeling sick three to four days ago thinking, ‘This feels like COVID.’ I took five tests and … today it came back positive,” the bakery owner said Friday from her home in Warren, Man., about 45 kilometres north of Winnipeg.

“It did come as a surprise to me because of all the things I put in place to not get it. Now that I had it twice, I don’t feel quite as invincible.”

Reinfection of COVID-19 was considered unusual, but then the Omicron variant arrived.

“Because Omicron is so different, previous infection doesn’t protect you,” Saskatchewan’s chief medical health officer, Dr. Saqib Shahab, said last week.

He said public health data suggests up to 10 per cent of infected Canadians who have recently had BA.2 — a sub-variant of Omicron — previously had BA.1 or a previous infection, like the Delta variant.

This aligns with recent studies done in England that suggest 10 per cent of reported cases are reinfections.

“That shows just because you got Omicron once doesn’t mean you’re bulletproof now,” Shahab said.

Not all provinces publicly report reinfection rates. However, in Ontario, public health says nearly 12,000 people have gotten COVID-19 twice since November 2020 with the current risk of reinfection deemed “high.”

Quebec’s National Institute of Public Health says the number of presumed reinfections has increased greatly in its province since Omicron arrived.

In a January report, Quebec reported 32 reinfections for every 1,000 primary infections, with nearly 9,000 people suspected of getting reinfected since May 2020.

Just because you got Omicron once doesn't mean you're bulletproof
DR. SAQIB SHAHABNazeem Muhajarine, an epidemiologist at the University of Saskatchewan, said unlike other variants Omicron is much better at working around immunity that’s induced either by vaccines or previous infections.

“Not only is it able to escape immunity, but it is happening at a time where people’s immunity is waning,” Muhajarine said, adding it has been three to five months since most Canadians have completed their two-dose vaccine series.

“It’s a bit of a double jeopardy there, and that’s why we’re seeing so many more reinfections with Omicron.”

Health officials continue to suggest that people complete their two-dose COVID-19 vaccine series and get boosted with a third dose and, if eligible, a fourth shot.

“Vaccines really work well against severe outcomes” like hospitalization and death, said Shahab.

“Even though you got COVID at some point in the past, you can wait anywhere from two weeks to three months to get a booster.”

Nationwide, about 47 per cent of eligible people have received a third dose, says the Public Health Agency of Canada.

Despite getting COVID-19 twice, Enns said she will get a second booster if she becomes eligible.

“I feel if I didn’t have the vaccinations, I’d definitely be in the hospital,” said Enns, who is considered at-risk because she has Type 2 diabetes and asthma.

Enns recalled knowing an unvaccinated person who died alone in hospital due to COVID-19, calling the experience “awful.”

“You think, ‘That could be me.’ But I’m at home and sick, but I’ll live.”

 
英国阳性不隔离,完全无视病毒传播,才是完全躺平了。其它国家还没有。

在英国,这应该是,病毒造成的最严重的后果了,估计后面会一浪比一浪小。这一波英国的感染数字正在快速下降通道。

英国经验说明,共存是一个长期渐进的过程,需要一年甚至更长的时间,渐渐达到社会生活和医院的正常化。

共存是一件复杂的工程,不是有些人想的一下子全不管了。

很同意。

抗疫是持久战。既无法速胜, 也不可以灰心投降。

保存实力跑马拉松
 
恐怕学校里很多人都没有遵守隔离, 中招了之后当感冒处理, 两三天以后退烧了就不戴口罩上学, 没有在家蹲6天, 也没返校后戴5天口罩。

恐怕这是学校里疫情泛滥全班先后中招的原因。
一个学生带回家 7 个测试,足够用,明知道是阳性还不坐满隔离期的,有,但是不多。我自己的感觉,还是不戴口罩造成的疫情泛滥。
 
一个学生带回家 7 个测试,足够用,明知道是阳性还不坐满隔离期的,有,但是不多。我自己的感觉,还是不戴口罩造成的疫情泛滥。
个人感觉学校戴口罩作用不大,室内时间太长了,学生也不会严格佩戴
 
既然infection都不能防感染,疫苗看来是不管用了
 
也不是完全不管用。最关键是, 能不能防重症。

如果说防感染, 那的确时效很短。自然免疫之后有两三个月防再次感染, 而且因人而异。

疫苗与自然免疫相比哪个保护力更强、更持久, 好象没有定论。据说中招约等于一针。但也有说自然免疫更持久。奥米以来, 很多情况都变化了。
 
当地时间4月11日,英国国家统计局发布英国最新经济数据显示,2月英国国内生产总值( GDP) 增长0.1%,远低于1月时的0.8%。详细数据显示,英国2月制造业生产下降0.4%。

英国彻底躺平,经济也没见好。
 
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