土豆指责反对党保护房东

你说了这么多逻辑是极其混乱的。

房东为什么提现金流为负是问题?是想告诉那些指责房东黑心的人,别以为房东就是躺着赚钱,在加息周期内,房东的利润都被银行以利息的形式收走了,租客不容易,房东也不容易。而且对于绝大多数房东来说,目前的租金根本不够覆盖成本,处于赔钱状态,你还骂房东黑心,是不是有点过分了?

至于是否在现金流为负的时候卖房,这个是投资决策的事情。投资这玩意,就不用扯了,水太深,你几句话怎么可能就整明白了?我也懒的在这方面继续废话。

人可以穷,但不是这不不是人可以胡搅蛮缠的理由。 我也不富,但这也并不导致我不能站在房东的角度考虑问题。任何一件事情都有一个理字,只考虑自己的利益,并期望的牺牲他人的利益来实现自己的利益,这样的观点本身就让人生厌。

一个人是否愚蠢和一个人是否有钱没有直接的关系,同样的,一个人是否自私也和有没有钱没有直接的关系。
你们怎么这么不识好人心呢?

你们现在觉得郁闷的原因不就是因为房子的租金不能涨, 但是房贷利息在涨, 结果自己这个房东卡在中间, 觉得不爽吗?不就是这点事儿吗?

卖了不就行了。 买卖不破租赁, 让下一个愿意做房东的接手不就行了。 你们总还是赚的呗。

你们东扯西拉的把那么多乱七八糟的东西, 包括个人感观都卷进这么一个简单的问题里来做什么?

想做房东, 本来就是要面对这些东西的, 如果只想赚钱, 那就把买房的钱砸进股市嘛。 至少解套起来比房地产舒服多了。
 
你们这些房东呢, 虽然嘴上说这个不爽, 那个不公平。 到头来房子么, 是不肯脱手的。 宁可亏钱, 几千几万的往里亏, 就是不肯脱手。

而且呢, 一碰到选举了, 至少一半房东都去选自由党。 甚至还有不少去选NDP的。

真来个愿意替房东说几句话的党, 想拉你们的票, 呵呵, 那时候各种私心杂念都来了, 哎呀, 这个党是不是对中国不友好啊, 哎呀, 那个人好像是个白人啊, 肯定看不起咱们中国人啊, 哦哟, 那个议员对中国口出狂言, 不能选不能选, 选票全部送给自由党吧。

然后回家开始打开电脑, 登录CFC开始哭诉, 哎呀, 自由党哟, 对房东不友好啊, 小土豆收税啊, 汽油啊, 房价呀, 租金啊, 租客啊, 没有人权啊。。。。。


然后像我这样仗义的, 就看不下去了, 出来指点你们说, 想要不受房客的折磨, 那就卖了房子, 钞票落袋为安, 跳出火坑!
想要人权, 想要油价去掉碳税, 那就别把票投给自由党!

这时候你们是什么做派?转而开始攻击我了。 呵呵。

你们既然正在爽呢, 正在enjoy这个游戏呢, 那就继续呗。 就是别一脸死腔的上来说什么“有几个房东的现金流是正的?”
妈的, 再说这种话,老子特么恨不得一个耳光扇过去!
别把我包括进去
 
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冤有头债有主,出门左转是政府,大会漫灌碳税加持,这都是联邦政府割你们房东房客韭菜的各种套路,韭菜忙起来,政府就有时间磨刀了
 
你们怎么这么不识好人心呢?

你们现在觉得郁闷的原因不就是因为房子的租金不能涨, 但是房贷利息在涨, 结果自己这个房东卡在中间, 觉得不爽吗?不就是这点事儿吗?

卖了不就行了。 买卖不破租赁, 让下一个愿意做房东的接手不就行了。 你们总还是赚的呗。

你们东扯西拉的把那么多乱七八糟的东西, 包括个人感观都卷进这么一个简单的问题里来做什么?

想做房东, 本来就是要面对这些东西的, 如果只想赚钱, 那就把买房的钱砸进股市嘛。 至少解套起来比房地产舒服多了。
说穿了就是银行把钱借给了财务不合格的房东,这些房东和借钱炒股票的投资者一样,套住了就把损失转嫁给房客了
 
"Toronto’s rent crisis: Minimum wage would have to hit $40 an hour for workers to be able to afford to live here, report finds

ECONOMIC THINK TANK REPORT SAYS THE MINIMUM WAGE NEEDS TO BE $33.60 AN HOUR FOR A WORKER TO AFFORD A ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT IN TORONTO — $40 AN HOUR FOR A TWO-BEDROOM APARTMENT​

Ontario’s minimum wage would have to rise to $40 an hour for Toronto workers to comfortably afford a two-bedroom apartment and still have money for food and utilities, according to a report from the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.
Nearly all Canadians putting in a 40-hour week at minimum wage are allocating more than 30 per cent of their monthly pre-tax income toward rent or mortgage costs — the marker of unaffordable housing — Tuesday’s report found.
And while Ontario has one of the highest hourly minimum wages in the country at $15.50, surpassed only by B.C. at $15.65, the climbing cost of housing in Toronto is eroding any gains made. On Oct. 1, 2022, Ontario’s minimum wage was bumped to $15.50 from $15 an hour, and it will rise to $16.55 in October.
But that’s still a far cry from what’s needed. At an average monthly rent of $2,572, a one-bedroom apartment in Toronto would require the minimum wage to be $33.60 for it to meet the affordability criteria, according to the report. For a two-bedroom apartment, that figure climbs to $40. That means the minimum wage would need to more than double for workers to comfortably afford rent in the city.
Rent jumped by almost 16 per cent for Toronto condos and apartments in June compared to the same time last year, according to a report from Rentals.ca and real estate data firm Urbanation.
“Higher minimum wages don’t directly translate into better living standards. Hard-fought-for wage increases should improve the material conditions of working families,” said Ricardo Tranjan, Ontario political economist at the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives and co-author of the report.
Out of the 37 cities studied in the report, only three have affordable two-bedroom apartments for a minimum-wage earner, the report said — all in Quebec, where the minimum wage was $14.25 during the study in 2022. Minimum wage there is now $15.25. In that province, like many others, affordable housing is in decline while the cost of living is rising.
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According to the report, only five cities in Canada have a single neighbourhood where the average two-bedroom apartment is affordable for a minimum-wage worker.
The top five cities with the most unaffordable rent for minimum-wage earners are all in Ontario and B.C., with Vancouver taking the top spot followed by Toronto, Kelowna, Victoria and Ottawa.
As interest rates rise, higher mortgage costs for landlords are off-loaded to tenants who have seen rents increase in the past year, said David Macdonald, a senior economist with the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives and the report’s co-author.
“This report doesn’t take into account data for late 2022 and 2023,” said Macdonald. “We haven’t taken into account the latest Bank of Canada rate hikes, which have pushed rents even higher in the last eight months. So the situation for renters is even worse than what’s captured in this report.”
While the lack of supply and increased demand is one reason for unaffordable housing, it’s not the entire reason, the report argues. The low supply of purpose-built rentals, which provide more varied unit sizes and security of tenure, is causing rents to skyrocket, as people have fewer affordable options to choose from. And some provinces have introduced legislation that vetoes rent control in certain circumstances.

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In Ontario, for instance, new buildings, additions to existing buildings and most new basement apartments that were occupied for the first time after Nov. 15, 2018, have all been exempt from rent control by the provincial government.
“This has a negative impact on the well-being of tenant families and the hardship they face,” said Tranjan. “But there are also serious economic repercussions. The pressure on minimum-wage earners means that there will be less spending. And, it will also become difficult for downtown businesses to hire workers, if no minimum-wage earners are able to live downtown.”
The current model for building more housing stock is too reliant on developers and investors looking to make a profit, said Macdonald, so the burden falls on government to step up and provide the necessary stock of purpose-built rentals to boost affordability.
“The purpose of housing is to provide a place for people to live instead of an investment for someone,” he said. “Rents should not be seen as the vehicle to increase income for investors.”"
https://www.thestar.com/.../torontos-rent-crisis-minimum...
 
我早就说了呀, 看来你自己没看到罢了
说穿了就是银行把钱借给了财务不合格的房东,这些房东和借钱炒股票的投资者一样,套住了就把损失转嫁给房客了
J加拿大没这回事,银行还是稳健的,不存在把钱借给不合格的人
 
"Toronto’s rent crisis: Minimum wage would have to hit $40 an hour for workers to be able to afford to live here, report finds

ECONOMIC THINK TANK REPORT SAYS THE MINIMUM WAGE NEEDS TO BE $33.60 AN HOUR FOR A WORKER TO AFFORD A ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT IN TORONTO — $40 AN HOUR FOR A TWO-BEDROOM APARTMENT​

Ontario’s minimum wage would have to rise to $40 an hour for Toronto workers to comfortably afford a two-bedroom apartment and still have money for food and utilities, according to a report from the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.
Nearly all Canadians putting in a 40-hour week at minimum wage are allocating more than 30 per cent of their monthly pre-tax income toward rent or mortgage costs — the marker of unaffordable housing — Tuesday’s report found.
And while Ontario has one of the highest hourly minimum wages in the country at $15.50, surpassed only by B.C. at $15.65, the climbing cost of housing in Toronto is eroding any gains made. On Oct. 1, 2022, Ontario’s minimum wage was bumped to $15.50 from $15 an hour, and it will rise to $16.55 in October.
But that’s still a far cry from what’s needed. At an average monthly rent of $2,572, a one-bedroom apartment in Toronto would require the minimum wage to be $33.60 for it to meet the affordability criteria, according to the report. For a two-bedroom apartment, that figure climbs to $40. That means the minimum wage would need to more than double for workers to comfortably afford rent in the city.
Rent jumped by almost 16 per cent for Toronto condos and apartments in June compared to the same time last year, according to a report from Rentals.ca and real estate data firm Urbanation.
“Higher minimum wages don’t directly translate into better living standards. Hard-fought-for wage increases should improve the material conditions of working families,” said Ricardo Tranjan, Ontario political economist at the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives and co-author of the report.
Out of the 37 cities studied in the report, only three have affordable two-bedroom apartments for a minimum-wage earner, the report said — all in Quebec, where the minimum wage was $14.25 during the study in 2022. Minimum wage there is now $15.25. In that province, like many others, affordable housing is in decline while the cost of living is rising.
Skip Advertisement
According to the report, only five cities in Canada have a single neighbourhood where the average two-bedroom apartment is affordable for a minimum-wage worker.
The top five cities with the most unaffordable rent for minimum-wage earners are all in Ontario and B.C., with Vancouver taking the top spot followed by Toronto, Kelowna, Victoria and Ottawa.
As interest rates rise, higher mortgage costs for landlords are off-loaded to tenants who have seen rents increase in the past year, said David Macdonald, a senior economist with the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives and the report’s co-author.
“This report doesn’t take into account data for late 2022 and 2023,” said Macdonald. “We haven’t taken into account the latest Bank of Canada rate hikes, which have pushed rents even higher in the last eight months. So the situation for renters is even worse than what’s captured in this report.”
While the lack of supply and increased demand is one reason for unaffordable housing, it’s not the entire reason, the report argues. The low supply of purpose-built rentals, which provide more varied unit sizes and security of tenure, is causing rents to skyrocket, as people have fewer affordable options to choose from. And some provinces have introduced legislation that vetoes rent control in certain circumstances.

RELATED STORIES​

Real Estate

TORONTO RENTAL PRICES CLIMB IN JUNE, AS STRETCHED HOME SELLERS RE-ENTER THE MARKET

4 days ago
GTA

TORONTO NEEDS A HUGE INFLUX OF RENTAL BUILDINGS — OR RENTS WILL KEEP GOING UP AND PEOPLE WILL KEEP LEAVING

Feb. 09, 2023
Business

BANK WARNS MORTGAGE DELINQUENCIES COULD RISE BY MORE THAN ONE THIRD AS HOMEOWNERS STRUGGLE TO MAKE PAYMENTS

May. 09, 2023
In Ontario, for instance, new buildings, additions to existing buildings and most new basement apartments that were occupied for the first time after Nov. 15, 2018, have all been exempt from rent control by the provincial government.
“This has a negative impact on the well-being of tenant families and the hardship they face,” said Tranjan. “But there are also serious economic repercussions. The pressure on minimum-wage earners means that there will be less spending. And, it will also become difficult for downtown businesses to hire workers, if no minimum-wage earners are able to live downtown.”
The current model for building more housing stock is too reliant on developers and investors looking to make a profit, said Macdonald, so the burden falls on government to step up and provide the necessary stock of purpose-built rentals to boost affordability.
“The purpose of housing is to provide a place for people to live instead of an investment for someone,” he said. “Rents should not be seen as the vehicle to increase income for investors.”"
https://www.thestar.com/.../torontos-rent-crisis-minimum...
政府可以限制开发商的卖房价,这样收入低的就买得起房了,也租得起房了,政府为毛不这样做?不是良心大大地坏了吧?:evil:
 
J加拿大没这回事,银行还是稳健的,不存在把钱借给不合格的人
什么意思?我说我的住房问题你没看到,跟加拿大稳健不稳健有关系吗?
 
只考虑自己的利益,并期望的牺牲他人的利益来实现自己的利益,这样的观点本身就让人生厌。
是什么让你觉得我企图牺牲他人的利益来实现我自己的利益了呢?

说实话, 我就是仗义执言而已。 无非就是看你们 “恨其不争”,帮你们想条出路而已。

那么你说说看, 我牺牲他人什么利益了? 又能实现自己的什么利益了?
 
政府可以限制开发商的卖房价,这样收入低的就买得起房了,也租得起房了,政府为毛不这样做?不是良心大大地坏了吧?:evil:
这就是胡说八道了。 你限制开发商售价, 开发商可以不开发呀。 问题不还是依然存在?结果因为开发商不开发房子了, 导致房源继续减少, 只会进一步推高二手房价格。 当然你又会说政府可以限制二手房交易价格, 你问问房东们愿不愿意?

现在本质上是人多房少。 你再怎么用法律,用行政命令来控制房价,控制租价,都无法解决问题。

最简单的办法,就是多盖房子。 或者不一定要多盖, 但总归要让市场上的房源多起来, 房价自然就能平复了。

更何况这里头还有一个货币超发,导致通货膨胀的问题在里头。 政府限制卖房价格, 这是标准的蠢货才能想出的办法。

恭喜, 你喜提蠢货头衔了。
 
这就是胡说八道了。 你限制开发商售价, 开发商可以不开发呀。 问题不还是依然存在?结果因为开发商不开发房子了, 导致房源继续减少, 只会进一步推高二手房价格。 当然你又会说政府可以限制二手房交易价格, 你问问房东们愿不愿意?

现在本质上是人多房少。 你再怎么用法律,用行政命令来控制房价,控制租价,都无法解决问题。

最简单的办法,就是多盖房子。 或者不一定要多盖, 但总归要让市场上的房源多起来, 房价自然就能平复了。

更何况这里头还有一个货币超发,导致通货膨胀的问题在里头。 政府限制卖房价格, 这是标准的蠢货才能想出的办法。

恭喜, 你喜提蠢货头衔了。
政府能限制房东涨房租,为毛不能限制开发商涨房价?同样是民生,这道理说不通呀。

闲聊嘛,攻击人就没意思了,对吧?
 
政府能限制房东涨房租,为毛不能限制开发商涨房价?同样是民生,这道理说不通呀。

闲聊嘛,攻击人就没意思了,对吧?
我没攻击你的意思,但是你提的那条思路实在是太蠢。你自己想想是不是
 
政府能限制房东涨房租,为毛不能限制开发商涨房价?同样是民生,这道理说不通呀。

闲聊嘛,攻击人就没意思了,对吧?
对啊,所以政府也是一群蠢货呀。
你不能跟他们去比谁更蠢吧。
 
这位房客因为房东卖房被搞得好伤心

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