三巨头爱丽舍宫合影，特朗普呼吁乌克兰立即停火，并表示美国可能退出北约

[urus]

什么样的答案都行，真实想法就好

所以有一个问题是，如果美国不提供世界安全服务了，美元还能是世界储备货币吗？

你问的是不是这个问题？

 

[metropolis]

川普敦促中国帮助结束乌克兰战争，全世界都在等待

司机则强调有效的和平保障。

“应该立即停火，谈判应该开始。特朗普周日在一篇在线帖子中说：“太多的生命被不必要地浪费，太多的家庭被摧毁。”“我很了解弗拉基米尔。这是他采取行动的时候了。中国可以提供帮助。全世界都在等待！”特朗普补充道。特朗普说，双方在战争中遭受了巨大的损失——他在美国大选竞选中声称，如果当选，他可以在“24小时内”结束。他补充道：“Zelenskyy和乌克兰希望达成协议，并阻止疯狂。”

Ukraine war briefing: Trump urges China to help end Ukraine war​

After meeting US president-elect, Volodymyr Zelenskyy cautions that Ukraine needs a ‘just and robust peace, that Russians will not destroy within a few years’. What we know on day 1,020

Guardian staff and agencies
Mon 9 Dec 2024 00.25 GMT

Donald Trump has called for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine, a day after meeting the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, in Paris, claiming Kyiv “would like to make a deal” to end its war with Russia. “There should be an immediate ceasefire and negotiations should begin. Too many lives are being needlessly wasted, too many families destroyed,” Trump said on Sunday in an online post. “I know Vladimir well. This is his time to act. China can help. The world is waiting!” Trump added. Trump said both sides had suffered enormous losses in the war – which he claimed on the US election campaign trail he would be able to end “in 24 hours” if elected. “Zelenskyy and Ukraine would like to make a deal and stop the madness,” he added.

• Zelenskyy described his discussions with Trump, brought together by French President Emmanuel Macron, as “constructive” but gave no further details. Zelenskyy cautioned that Ukraine needs a “just and robust peace, that Russians will not destroy within a few years.” “When we talk about an effective peace with Russia, we must talk first of all about effective peace guarantees. Ukrainians want peace more than anyone else. Russia brought war to our land,” he said Sunday in a post on the Telegram messaging app. Among Zelenskyy’s inner circle, there is an increasing awareness that, as the army struggles to hold back Russia on the frontline, some kind of negotiations will be necessary soon. But they fear that without solid security guarantees from the west, a ceasefire would be meaningless.
• Like Joe Biden, president-elect Trump made a connection between the upheaval in Syria and Russia’s war in Ukraine, noting that allies of ousted Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in Moscow, as well as in Iran, the main sponsor of Hamas and Hezbollah, “are in a weakened state right now”. Trump has suggested that Assad’s ousting could advance the prospects for an end to fighting in Ukraine.
• In an interview taped on Friday, Trump said that his incoming administration would be open to reducing aid to Ukraine, which the United States has been steadfastly backing since its invasion by Russia. “Possibly. Yeah, probably, sure,” he told NBC’s Meet the Press. Trump renewed his warning to Nato allies that he did not see continued US participation in the alliance as a given during his second term. Asked whether he would consider the possibility of pulling out of Nato, Trump indicated that was an open question. “If they’re paying their bills, and if I think they’re treating us fairly, the answer is absolutely I’d stay with Nato,” he said. But if not, he was asked if he would consider pulling the US out of the alliance. Trump responded, “Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.” He refused to say if he had spoken to Putin since winning election in November. “I don’t want to say anything about that, because I don’t want to do anything that could impede the negotiation,” Trump said. The interview was taped Friday and aired on Sunday, ahead of three-way talks with Macron and Zelenskyy over the weekend in Paris.

Ukraine war briefing: Trump urges China to help end Ukraine war | Ukraine | The Guardian

After meeting US president-elect, Volodymyr Zelenskyy cautions that Ukraine needs a ‘just and robust peace, that Russians will not destroy within a few years’. What we know on day 1,020

amp.theguardian.com

 

[gocanoeing]

你问的是不是这个问题？

也死

 

[草头将军]

老川普早就不想在北约混了。 他是真正知道美国现在的实力的。 拜登一直在硬撑场面， 繁花似锦之下，其实已经腐败空虚。

川普这个人， 要里子，不要面子。 他知道，如果美国继续贪慕虚荣， 硬撑着当老大， 下场一定是灭国之祸。 所以， 他一定会在各个领域尽力收缩， 放弃一切虚荣， 全力保命，只有活下来， 才能谈得上今后。 北约这种用处没有， 场面却庞大，不停的吸美国血的组织， 他肯定要退。

美国最后只能谨守北美这一亩三分地， 欧洲虽好， 但美国已经无力操控了。

他当然知道美国现在的实力。但如果美国真的退出北约，那她在世界各地耀武扬威的虚架子就更没法维持了
没有欧洲，日韩这帮狗腿子，美国在世界上就更难混了。
放心吧，川普扬言退出北约就跟“老人说不想活了，大姑娘说不想嫁人”的可信度一样一样的

 

[草头将军]

川普敦促中国帮助结束乌克兰战争，全世界都在等待

Ukraine war briefing: Trump urges China to help end Ukraine war | Ukraine | The Guardian

After meeting US president-elect, Volodymyr Zelenskyy cautions that Ukraine needs a ‘just and robust peace, that Russians will not destroy within a few years’. What we know on day 1,020

amp.theguardian.com

“Zelenskyy和乌克兰希望达成协议，并阻止疯狂。”
现在还有泽连司机啥事？
中国不会再出手了。即便出手，也不会再把泽连司机当作调停的一方了，除非乌克兰选出了新领导人

 

[chengse]

还是那句话。老川在捞筹码而已。

将美国潜在的筹码都拿出来用，这才是川普的成功之道。

民主党不敢。