不愧是出身媒体的美国国防部长,办事公开透明,率领最高领导层,事先公布详细的战争计划

就算部长没有军方背景,同样是媒体从业者,这位受邀的编辑看到这些文字马上感觉不可思议,事后发现竟然真是作战计划,简直令他难以置信。

部长没有常识概念吗?
我要对那个编辑说一句:
都是常识惹的祸啊!
那个编辑常识太多,不然的话可以早爆料了!
 
关键是谁把记者拉入群的?!

群里还有副总统,国务卿,财长,总统幕僚长,国家情报头子,安全顾问……
我看到中文报导说是安全顾问华尔兹干的好事。Pete只是没发现特务埋伏在群里。
 
我看到中文报导说是安全顾问华尔兹干的好事。Pete只是没发现特务埋伏在群里。

如果pete的工作是程序猿的话,你好像在说,不是pete的错,他只是不会编程而已
 
如果pete的工作是程序猿的话,你好像在说,不是pete的错,他只是不会编程而已
你可真够能胡乱联系的。 :good:
可以说Pete不注意安全规定,可以取消他的security clearance,这老川在行。你说人家不会编程,那你也得找个合适的借口吧?Pete又不是特务头子!
 

万斯反对美国攻击也门,至少应当推迟一个月,他认为维护此航道主要有益于欧洲,和他在墨安会把欧盟骂了一顿相同,痛恨美国承受欧洲的负担,有人建议让欧洲买单。​

Google 翻译:

这让万斯更加让欧洲感到担忧。欧洲外交政策负责人卡贾·卡拉斯指责万斯“试图挑起与欧洲盟友的争端”。另一位欧洲外交官说:“他对欧洲非常危险……也许是政府中最危险的。”另一位外交官说,他“痴迷于”挑拨欧洲和美国之间的关系。

回到谈话中,一些人试图——小心翼翼地——劝说万斯放弃。赫格塞斯说,这次袭击将促进“核心”美国价值观,包括航行自由和预先建立威慑。但他表示,如果愿意,袭击可以推迟。外交政策传统主义者沃尔兹表示:“必须由美国来重新开放这些航道。”但他同意,政府试图“汇总相关成本并向欧洲人征收”。

“如果你认为我们应该这样做,那就去做吧。我只是讨厌再次救助欧洲,”万斯回答道。赫格塞斯同意“我完全赞同你对欧洲搭便车的厌恶。这太可悲了。”但他补充说,“我们是地球上唯一可以做到这一点的人(在我们这边)。”

Stunning Signal leak reveals depths of Trump administration’s loathing of Europe​

Andrew Rothin Washington
Messages inadvertently shared with Atlantic journalist lay bare the unvarnished truth about how Vance and Hegseth feel about European allies

But Vance appears determined to push that angle as a reason to postpone the strike.
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Outrage after White House accidentally texts journalist war plans: ‘Huge screw-up’
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“I think we are making a mistake,” wrote Vance, adding that while only 3% of US trade goes through the Suez canal, 40% of European trade does. “There is a real risk that the public doesn’t understand this or why it’s necessary,” he added. “The strongest reason to do this is, as [Trump] said, to send a message.”

Vance was contending that once again the United States is doing what Europe should be. It is consistent with his past arguments that the US is overpaying for European security and the derision he displayed toward European allies (almost certainly the UK and France) when he described them as “some random country that hasn’t fought a war in 30 or 40 years”. (Both fought in Afghanistan and the UK fought alongside the US in Iraq).

It was during this policy discussion, Goldberg wrote, that he was convinced that he was reading remarks by the real Vance, as well as defense secretary Pete Hegseth, national security advisor Michael Waltz, and senior Trump advisor Stephen Miller.

Then Vance went a step further. He tacitly admitted a difference between his foreign policy and Trump’s saying that the strike would undermine the president’s Europe policy – one that has been led by Vance in his divisive speech at the Munich Security Conference where he accused European leaders of running from their own electorates and of his Eurosceptic comments on Fox News.

“I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now,” Vance wrote. “There’s a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself. But there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc.”

Those designated on the call also reflect the vice-president’s growing clout in foreign policymaking circles. Vance named Andy Baker, his national security advisor who helped lead the transition team at the Pentagon, as his representative. Hegseth named Dan Caldwell, a leading proponent of “restraint” in the exercise of US foreign power abroad to protect Europe and counter rivals like Russia, indicating the Vance team’s presence at high levels of the Pentagon as well.


At heart, the disagreement indicated that Vance’s views of foreign policy are not quite aligned with Trump. Trump broadly sees the world as transactional and optimists in Europe have claimed he could force a positive outcome by forcing those nations to spend more on defense budgets. But Vance appears far more confrontational and principled in his antipathy toward the transatlantic alliance, and has attacked European leaders for backing values that he says are not aligned with the US.

That makes Vance even more of a concern for Europe. Kaja Kallas, the European foreign policy chief, accused Vance of “trying to pick a fight” with European allies. Another European diplomat said: “He is very dangerous for Europe … maybe the most [dangerous] in the administration.” Another said he was “obsessed” with driving a wedge between Europe and the US.

Back on the chat some sought – carefully – to talk Vance down. Hegseth said the strike would promote “core” American values including freedom of navigation and pre-establish deterrence. But he said the strikes could wait, if desired. Waltz, a foreign policy traditionalist, said: “It will have to be the United States that reopens these shipping lanes.” But he agreed that the administration sought to “compile the cost associated and levy them on the Europeans”.

“If you think we should do it let’s go. I just hate bailing Europe out again,” Vance replied. Hegseth agreed that “I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC.” But, he added, “we are the only ones on the planet (on our side of the ledger) who can do this.”

Miller, the Trump confidant, effectively ended the conversation by saying that the president had been clear. “Green light, but we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return.”

Broadly, the administration’s policies on Europe are coming into focus. And there are few stepping up to voice backing for Nato or for Europe writ large. On a podcast interview this weekend, the senior Trump envoy Steve Witkoff mused about the potential for the Gulf economies to replace those of Europe. “It could be much bigger than Europe. Europe is dysfunctional today,” he said.

Tucker Carlson, the host and another Trump confidant, agreed. “It would be good for the world because Europe is dying,” he said.

 
明明就是美帝的圈套,一帮撸涩还讨论来讨论去的,就跟你打明牌了,怎么地啊?下次提前泄露点消息,看你信不信。
 
丑闻都能吹成阴谋论,舔出鲜花蜂蜜的味道,如此背离共识,真是难为了!一定要继续努力。
 
丑闻都能吹成阴谋论,舔出鲜花蜂蜜的味道,如此背离共识,真是难为了!一定要继续努力。
以后川总说啥别不当回事,说打你,肯定打你,躲的了初一躲不过15
 
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关键是谁把记者拉入群的?!

群里还有副总统,国务卿,财长,总统幕僚长,国家情报头子,安全顾问……
是总统的安全顾问 Michael Waltz.

下一个问题是为什么拉JG进来?忘了安全条例,有意传播核心机密,向世界介绍美国最高决策层的内幕?当然还有楼上说的明牌威慑,彰显实力碾压。
 
是总统的安全顾问 Michael Waltz.

下一个问题是为什么拉JG进来?忘了安全条例,有意传播核心机密,向世界介绍美国最高决策层的内幕?当然还有楼上说的明牌威慑,彰显实力碾压。
关键是他不该用商用软件。
就是用微信,也得分两个账号不是?好友都混一块儿,手一滑就加进去了。
 
关键是他不该用商用软件。
就是用微信,也得分两个账号不是?好友都混一块儿,手一滑就加进去了。
所以直到Yemen真被打了,这位主编才确定这些大人物不是cosplay,他一直以为是一群骗子,顶着大人物的身份过嘴瘾呢。
 
“Terrible mistake! Inviting a US journalist instead of the usual Russian FSB handler... Putler is not happy Trump!”
 
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