临别赠言：跟James老先生聊聊爱国

[观雨]

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


OK, I want to ask this question long time ago: how do you write Chinese ? What software package do you need ? How long did it take you to learn ?

If I could, I would. But I heard it was very hard to input Chinese.

就照你的签字来就行了，别告诉我那是剪贴的。

 

[CFCFAN]

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


OK, I want to ask this question long time ago: how do you write Chinese ? What software package do you need ? How long did it take you to learn ?

If I could, I would. But I heard it was very hard to input Chinese.

你是不是没有学过拼音啊，这里很多人都有空教你

 

[panzer]

最初由 无业游民 发布

May I assume that you are one of those who had suffered before they managed to get out?

What's your point here? Only those suffered have a say or you wanna charge me something should I not be one of them? You gotta be joking, does everyone who has suffered, has been suffering or suffers all along under the CP regime have a say or even have a chance to say, be it public, private, real or virtual? I thought you've had insights on this, well, everybody makes mistake, me not exceptional.

 

[panzer]

最初由 James 发布
恕我直言，各位，一群中国人在中文网站用英语发言，不觉得搞笑吗？

James, don't make fun of yourself. If you can't enjoy it or even can't bear with it, leave it to those who can, ok? If everything in foreign languages could be discussed in Chinese or vice versa, why would you learn one of them? Remember, some ethnic Chinese might not be able to read Chinses.

 

[Xiaomimi]

最初由 sean 发布


你是不是没有学过拼音啊，这里很多人都有空教你

Can you input Chinese using 拼音 ?

Good idea, but how do you solve the problem of many characters with same pronuciation ? That's the very reason why Chinese can't be computerized and must be romanized.

 

[Geist]

What a boring discussion!

 

[colonel]

why?

最初由 James 发布
恕我直言，各位，一群中国人在中文网站用英语发言，不觉得搞笑吗？

no.

 

[CFCFAN]

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


Can you input Chinese using 拼音 ?

Good idea, but how do you solve the problem of many characters with same pronuciation ? That's the very reason why Chinese can't be computerized and must be romanized.

你不知道微软的拼音有联想的功能吗，我几乎都不用选择重复读音的字和词.

就如我上面的一句话，"zhidao"可能会有"指导""知道""直到""执导""直捣"等多种选择,但是你如果前面有的个不字出现,那么后面绝大多数跟"知道".如果你还不是很清楚的话,我可以继续提供帮助

 

[James]

最初由 panzer 发布


James, don't make fun of yourself. If you can't enjoy it or even can't bear with it, leave it to those who can, ok? If everything in foreign languages could be discussed in Chinese or vice versa, why would you learn one of them? Remember, some ethnic Chinese might not be able to read Chinses.

你的英语我是很佩服的，兄弟。这里跟你对着写英语的恐怕没人比得上你。不过我还是觉得你既然有条件写中文，用英语不妥。无论如何用母语更能表达清楚自己的思想。而且还有感情等其它因数在里面。

 

[James]

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


That's the very reason why Chinese can't be computerized and must be romanized.

更搞笑。

 

[无业游民]

同意小J，写中文至少所有上CFC的人都有兴趣看。

最初由 panzer 发布


What's your point here? Only those suffered have a say or you wanna charge me something should I not be one of them? You gotta be joking, does everyone who has suffered, has been suffering or suffers all along under the CP regime have a say or even have a chance to say, be it public, private, real or virtual? I thought you've had insights on this, well, everybody makes mistake, me not exceptional.

俺只是一个问题，是和否的回答已经足够，没什么point。俺有一个无法验证的假说。俺猜测您以及松大侠、阿Q、老V（还有电话卡）在国内有类似的经历,比如都受到过打击报复之类。假如俺的假说正确，俺认为你们的经历更加和自己的个性而不是社会制度有关，往前更进一步，如果那些个性没有改变的话在加拿大工作也同样可能会遭到打击报复，程度或许有不同。

人都在成长变化。拿松大侠来说，俺个人认为改变后的他不管回国还是留在加拿大都会很有适应能力的。

松大侠临走您怎么不对他说两句？

 

[James]

最初由 无业游民 发布
假如俺的假说正确，俺认为你们的经历更加和自己的个性而不是社会制度有关

性格决定命运，确实。不过大环境是你无法抗拒的。比如陈云把社会主义计划经济比作鸟笼，强壮的鸟可以跳高一些，但它永远跳不出这个笼子。

 

[visitor]

最初由 无业游民 发布
同意小J，写中文至少所有上CFC的人都有兴趣看。

俺只是一个问题，是和否的回答已经足够，没什么point。俺有一个无法验证的假说。俺猜测您以及松大侠、阿Q、老V（还有电话卡）在国内有类似的经历,比如都受到过打击报复之类。假如俺的假说正确，俺认为你们的经历更加和自己的个性而不是社会制度有关，往前更进一步，如果那些个性没有改变的话在加拿大工作也同样可能会遭到打击报复，程度或许有不同。

人都在成长变化。拿松大侠来说，俺个人认为改变后的他不管回国还是留在加拿大都会很有适应能力的。

松大侠临走您怎么不对他说两句？

如果说一个人的政治观点和个性有关，本人基本同意，但老无的“受到过打击报复”说，以俺的经历，恐怕有失偏颇，就象左营人士不一定就是即得利益者。当然，您说俺屁股上有个痣，俺不能就脱下裤子来让您检察不是。

当一个社会制度的受害者是社会的半数以上成员的话，不管这些人的个性如何，这个社会制度就值得怀疑了，不信咱来把直选，或者退一步，来把“鸣放”，现在的领导，连当年“引蛇出洞”的胆量和自信都没有，也算有自知之明，否则后果不堪设想。

 

[James]

最初由 visitor 发布

当一个社会制度的受害者是社会的半数以上成员的话，不管这些人的个性如何，这个社会制度就值得怀疑了，不信咱来把直选，或者退一步，来把“鸣放”，现在的领导，连当年“引蛇出洞”的胆量和自信都没有，也算有自知之明，否则后果不堪设想。

50年之后，或许会有。中共根本就没那个胆量和自信让你讲真话，知道历史真相。或许打下台湾那一天可以。这样它就强大到可以从容面对自己的历史了，人民也可以原谅它的历史。