中国人的诚信怎么这么差?

[JLu]

Looks like that this guy has not experienced much of such things in Canada and makes some really bad summerization about the overseas Chinese people here in Ottawa.

I once looked for, found an apartment, and paid $200 first month deposit to the landlord for a friend of my classmate; however, this friend changed his mind and decided to go to Toronto instead. I lost the $200 deposit. Certainly, this friend paid me back.

Based on my years' living experience here in Ottawa, I would think that Chinese people are more trustful than others if we have to make some generalization; otherwise, tell me why landlords always would prefer renting their apartment to Chinese students to others though most Chinese students may have difficulty in signing up a first lease due to the lack of previous credits.

 

[terry]

最初由 JLu 发布
Based on my years' living experience here in Ottawa, I would think that Chinese people are more trustful than others if we have to make some generalization; otherwise, tell me why landlords always would prefer renting their apartment to Chinese students to others though most Chinese students may have difficulty in signing up a first lease due to the lack of previous credits.

Agree! One of my friend lent his room to a white student in Aigonguin College. The white guys refused to pay the rent for 4 months after he signed the lease. My friend has to pay thousands of dollars asking lawyer to sue him to get him out. But my friend can't get money back.

Leave more room and understanding to our brother and sister. I strongly believe the average credit level of our new chiniese immigrants are higher than average local people. There is a statistics saying chinese family has lowest bad credit rate.

 

[Shrek]

最初由 terry 发布


Agree! One of my friend lent his room to a white student in Aigonguin College. The white guys refused to pay the rent for 4 months after he signed the lease. My friend has to pay thousands of dollars asking lawyer to sue him to get him out. But my friend can't get money back.

Leave more room and understanding to our brother and sister. I strongly believe the average credit level of our new chiniese immigrants are higher than average local people. There is a statistics saying chinese family has lowest bad credit rate.

我非常同意这个观点。
有些人动不动就真中国人素质差，我认为这样真的人不是本身素质差就是对自己缺乏自信。
很多时候只是小事一桩，我不知道为何那么容易跟中国人的素质挂上了?。要知道你贬低别人也就是贬低自己。
我非常赞同中国人的信誉普遍要高许多。有时做一些不利于自己的事，当中定有一些可以理解的原因，我们都是走同样的路过来的人，应该斤同胞多一些包容而不要轻易上纲上线，更不要一杆打倒一船人。

 

[visitor]

诚信的前题是双方的信任, 如果没有双方的信任, 诚信也就无从谈起. 定金所暗示的正是卖方对买方的不信任, 这种不信任, 决定了卖买双方谈不上什么诚信了. 如果这位卖主这样讲诚信, 当初为什么要收定金?

这位买主改主意后, 打电话通知卖方, 已经算可以了. 这种事在本地很常见, 没人上升到"诚信"的高度.

中国人的总体素质是比西方人的总体素质低(注意: 总体), 这是事实. 但这件事, 并不是一个正确的例证.

 

[viewer]

最初由 visitor 发布
中国人的总体素质是比西方人的总体素质低(注意: 总体), 这是事实..

爱国华侨vistor从那儿得到的这么具有统计权威的结论。不妨给大家
透一点仙气。不用煞有介事地“注意总体，这是事实”

 

[gdntfrank]

诚信的前题是双方的信任, 如果没有双方的信任, 诚信也就无从谈起. 定金所暗示的正是卖方对买方的不信任, 这种不信任, 决定了卖买双方谈不上什么诚信了. 如果这位卖主这样讲诚信, 当初为什么要收定金?

没错,要是大家都讲诚信,就不会有定金了.

 

[visitor]

最初由 viewer 发布
爱国华侨vistor从那儿得到的这么具有统计权威的结论。不妨给大家
透一点仙气。不用煞有介事地“注意总体，这是事实”

viewer说得对，我错了。

很显然，中国人民在政治环境，文化教育，经济发展总体落后于西方国家的情况下，仍然能够总体素质高于西方国家。

或者说象viewer这样的，从小在这种国情中长大的海外＂高等知识份子＂，总体素质高于西方国家的＂高等知识份子＂。viewer，不容易啊。

 

[Kent以东首帅哥]

不能一概而论,比方说四五十年代出生那些人还是挺不错的,到了文革前后出生的人才差一些.

 

[mike]

大家不要和不是中国人的人纠缠不清了，他不会说中国人一句好话，(注意: 一句), 这是事实。

 

[烂土豆]

最初由 gdntfrank 发布
诚信的前题是双方的信任, 如果没有双方的信任, 诚信也就无从谈起. 定金所暗示的正是卖方对买方的不信任, 这种不信任, 决定了卖买双方谈不上什么诚信了. 如果这位卖主这样讲诚信, 当初为什么要收定金?

没错,要是大家都讲诚信,就不会有定金了.

你老兄又在这混淆概念了。

诚信是履行自己答应过别人要做的事情的信用度。
订金是作为一方违反双方约定的一种”惩罚“。

这”惩罚“的大小，当然是由买卖双方来定了。在本题这特定例子里，就是十块钱了。因为买方违反了约定，所以十块钱被没收，以作为对卖方的一种补偿。这已经是毫无争议性的了。问题是买方是基于违反约定的前提下被”惩罚“的。这前提也就是他(她)对自己所作出的诚偌反悔，也就是失去诚信了。这是个事实，你反对不反对，同意不同意，承认不承认，对于它的出现和过程丝毫不影响。因为它已经发生了。

至于中国人总体的质数嘛。我就不说了，反正大多数的中国人都已经是哑巴吃馄饨了。要是还不明白的，大可以自己去看看上面发的帖子。就凭这些概念混淆，只要不是智商有问题的，大概也就不难猜出个八九不离十了。在这没有争论的必要。个别认为自己特别优越，特别高贵的优质中国人。也当然有他们自己放屁的权力。当然这也跟他们个人的诚信毫不相干。我更加无意伤害他们的弱小心灵。