渥太华有什么cisco certificate 培训班?

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我想参加ccie 或 ccip 的培训班?请问这儿有些设么学校有这种课程?
请多推荐几个,让我可以比较比较.
听说hull 哪儿有一个bootcamp, 价格比较便宜,有谁知道具体联系方法?

谢谢
 
are you student or 移民?
if you are移民,be honest,i tell you my story,
i got those paper(ccna,mcp or MPE .....whatever)couple years ago before i came to CA,i have to say those local IT company didnt realy care those paper anymore,they just care what your local expier and what language you speak(no franch language speak,no way to got better job,i mean,in IT field)

then,we have bad loop like "no job- no local experien- no job again-....

that true,my friend.
my personal opion
why dont you get any franch language training if possible if you want looking for better job some days?
good luck.
 
Some information.
1. A company named global knowlegde have this kind of trainning. you can check there web site.
2. CCNA is the lowest level, you don't need to pay $4k to sit in a classroom to pass it. Read the cisco books for CCNA, with the simulator software on the CDROM, you can pass the test. The "CCNA boot camp" is waste of money.
3. Just get CCNA is not really helping. CCNP and CCIE certificates are valueble but quite expensive and hard to get. CCNP has 4-5 test you have to pass, both theorial and pratical test. For each course, you are looking at 5 day course in classroom with equipment, which cost you about $4k. So, you need to pay about $12k to get it. CCIE is too hard to get if you don't have related working experiences on Cisco equipment (for now, there are less than 400 CCIE's in Canada). Also, any tests for CCNP and CCIE need lots of hands on experience. Just read the book is not good enough. That's why lots of routing or switching vendors' appricate those cisco certificates.
Hope it helps.
 
I'd love to take some French courses but... my current job is related to writing IP routing protocols. And i do not have much experience on how they work in the real large scale networks. I think CCIP and CCIE courses may be helpful for me. This is the reason i ask this question. Sadly our company does not provide such training to the employees :(
if you know any information about the training courses, please let me know...
 
最初由 maybe 发布
Some information.
1. A company named global knowlegde have this kind of trainning. you can check there web site.
2. CCNA is the lowest level, you don't need to pay $4k to sit in a classroom to pass it. Read the cisco books for CCNA, with the simulator software on the CDROM, you can pass the test. The "CCNA boot camp" is waste of money.
3. Just get CCNA is not really helping. CCNP and CCIE certificates are valueble but quite expensive and hard to get. CCNP has 4-5 test you have to pass, both theorial and pratical test. For each course, you are looking at 5 day course in classroom with equipment, which cost you about $4k. So, you need to pay about $12k to get it. CCIE is too hard to get if you don't have related working experiences on Cisco equipment (for now, there are less than 400 CCIE's in Canada). Also, any tests for CCNP and CCIE need lots of hands on experience. Just read the book is not good enough. That's why lots of routing or switching vendors' appricate those cisco certificates.
Hope it helps.

thanks a bunch!
Can i ask you a detailed questions?
For the simulator, where can i get it? Is it a real router simulator (like Juniper's oliver) or just a CLI sim? How much does it cost?
 
I think the simulator is just a CLI sim simply for some one can't affort real routers. A real router simulator may cost even more than the router itself.

If you really like to learn how routing protocols working in large scale networks, some good books like Doyle's Routing TCP/IP and Habibi's Internet Routing Architectures are good point to start. Quite frankly, CCIE covers more than IP routing. Test-focusing bootcamp may not really what you need.
 
最初由 毕业啦啦啦 发布
学网络的 就象蚂蚁一样多,我身边好多CCIE正在找工作,未果。勉强找到的待遇也不高,强烈扁造谣者,比如沿用十年前情景来形容IT网络就业前景的培训中心和学校人物!真是僧多肉少啊。

The simulator is just for CLI, the function is very limited. But good enough for the CCNA test preparation.

I think you mean lots of guys with "CCNA" certificates can not find a job. As I've mentioned, there are only less than 400 CCIE's in Canada. CCIE is not a just a certificate. It's almost impossible for you to know "lots of CCIE". With 10+ years hands-on experience, and working hard on the courses, there is no garantee you can get the certificate. And it cost about $20-30k to get through the courses and the test.

To a person withour hands-on experience on networking, get a CCNA won't help for job hunting. CCNP and CCIE is too hard to get by yourself, because of the cost and the equipment requirement. But since CCNA is easy and cheap, it's good for people who want to build a fundation on networking. Things like what's a hub, a switch and router, ...
 
Today, too many people have CCIE. Stop it!
My friend works in a small start up. 5 people in his group.
All chinese. 4 with CCIE
 
最初由 gdntfrank 发布
Today, too many people have CCIE. Stop it!
My friend works in a small start up. 5 people in his group.
All chinese. 4 with CCIE

are you sure? so far as i know from the website, only less than 400 people in Canada have CCIE. maybe those 4 get CCIE in China? Pls confirm...

Or maybe Canada is too slow, far away from the real world....?
 
最初由 毕业啦啦啦 发布
学网络的 就象蚂蚁一样多,我身边好多CCIE正在找工作,未果。勉强找到的待遇也不高,强烈扁造谣者,比如沿用十年前情景来形容IT网络就业前景的培训中心和学校人物!真是僧多肉少啊。

严重同意.国人干一行,这里毁一行.
 
It's almost impossible "4 of 5 group members are CCIE". It's also quite hard to get CCIE in china too. The last practical test in CCIE is a one day Lab testing, cost about 8k. Only tow labs in US have that equipment and people who are qualified to execute the exam program. You have to fly to the lab by your own. In the lab, you are facing a in-scaled network with tons of routing and traffic problems, and you need a day to trouble-shooting and solve all problems.
CCNA only gives you basic knowledge of networking technology.
CCNP have quite solid skills on perticular network protocols.
CCIE shows you have ability of designing, impelementing and maintening a big routing netowrk. People with CCIE have good income. But it's pretty hard to get there, and there is no shortcut.
 
你这个是旧皇历了吧?我听说现在北京就可以考 CCIE的lab了。
 
I remember there were just a little more than 100 CCIE's in Canada in year 2000. Now with the number reachs more than 400 (434 to be precise), I am surprised seeing 4 CCIE's at one spot.

Let's just put it this way, how many CCIE's can Bell Canada consume, how many Bell Canada in Canada. It probably will give you an idea what is the value of a CCIE today.
 
okay, the company is a small company called Fortenet. I am not sure if
I spelled it correctly. My classmate is the only person without a CCIE
in his group. CCIE only means you are familiar with cisco routers. Why
do we need so many CCIEs?
 
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