[分享]The Closing of Student Forums in China

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前几天在新闻版发过,可能是因为没翻译或者别的原因被删了

觉得这个和Ottawa区聊得很火的‘爱党和爱政府’与‘爱国’的区别还是比较沾边的,所以再转过来

中国政府真的有在为民服务吗?I highly doubt..
下边这篇文章只是一个微不足道的例子,但足够说明一些问题……
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Chinese Crack Down On Student Web Sites

By Philip P. Pan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, March 24, 2005; Page A13

BEIJING, March 23 -- Universities across China are tightening controls on student-run Internet discussion forums as part of a Communist Party campaign to strengthen what it calls "ideological education" on campuses. The crackdown has caused widespread resentment among students and prompted at least two demonstrations in recent days.

The Web sites, which run on school computer networks, host some of China's largest and liveliest online bulletin boards. They serve as virtual meeting places where millions of educated Chinese across the country gather for discussions about everything from pop culture to politics.

But in recent weeks, universities have started blocking off-campus users from participating, including alumni and students and faculty from other universities, according to students and college officials. They have also begun requiring students to register with their real names when going online.

清华学子哀悼水木清华的关闭
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在强烈的抵日情绪下,中国政府这充满争议性的行动似乎没有引起太大的注意呢。。

引用一个回帖:
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防民之口甚于防川的真正意思就是,一旦闸门被打开,无论想怎么亡羊补牢也都无济于事了。用100年以前的老方法对抗21世纪。真是一群僵尸官僚。
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我觉得,问题是那个sb教育部长,中国人众所周知,教育部长是sb,从上小学的时候大家就知道了,一直到大学,越看越sb。

关闭前,温总理还在bbs上和同学聊天。回答了好几百问题。
现在,上网和fans聊天的明星都很少了吧?

一个政府,两种态度,问题在于人。人的问题很简单:教育部长是sb
 
唉````````中国的教育我也真的不知道说什么好了!
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学生的压力比任何国家都大,但是北大清华都排不到世界前100名里边啊!我KAO..那数据还是中国人自己排的,真够丢人的...-_-|||
 
So what? Did he actually DO anything to STOP the closure?
If a company fails, it ultimately comes down to the CEO, he/she has to be responsible for the failure, not the middle manager.

What I see is the old good cop/bad cop scheme, nothing new. :o


最初由 乌鸦乌鸦 发布
关闭前,温总理还在bbs上和同学聊天。回答了好几百问题。
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
So what? Did he actually DO anything to STOP the closure?
If a company fails, it ultimately comes down to the CEO, he/she has to be responsible for the failure, not the middle manager.

What I see is the old good cop/bad cop scheme, nothing new. :o




EXACTLY!!!
Only sensible explanation! Before this, I actually believe the premier is a good cop. After this...
 
最初由 乌鸦乌鸦 发布
我觉得,问题是那个sb教育部长,中国人众所周知,教育部长是sb,从上小学的时候大家就知道了,一直到大学,越看越sb。

关闭前,温总理还在bbs上和同学聊天。回答了好几百问题。
现在,上网和fans聊天的明星都很少了吧?

一个政府,两种态度,问题在于人。人的问题很简单:教育部长是sb
the question is :how could that sb be a 教育部长?
if everybody knows he is a sb but he is still a 教育部长
don't u think there is sth wrong?
 
Praying on a 明主 has always been an obsession for Chinese. It's NOT a problem of people, people could come and go, but the role/responsibility should stay, therefore it IS a problem of the system.


最初由 如假包换的马甲 发布



EXACTLY!!!
Only sensible explanation! Before this, I actually believe the premier is a good cop. After this...
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
Praying on a 明主 has always been an obsession for Chinese. It's NOT a problem of people, people could come and go, but the role/responsibility should stay, therefore it IS a problem of the system.



u r right
that is the point
 
最初由 渐渐 发布
Praying on a 明主 has always been an obsession for Chinese. It's NOT a problem of people, people could come and go, but the role/responsibility should stay, therefore it IS a problem of the system.



Right again!
I don't understand why Chinese keep have such an obsession. It's believed that the chinese are smart people, but it's things like this that make me really doubt if the chinese are indeed smart.

ALSO, Systems can MOLD people. Good people can't survive or get to the top in a bad system.

One of my definitions of a good/bad system would be: Good system leaves no/or minimal room for people to act bad. Vice versa for bad system.

一个世纪前,孙中山先生说过“这是制度的问题”. It's still true in today's China. Oh, man, it's so hard to change something.
 
最初由 adware 发布

the question is :how could that sb be a 教育部长?
if everybody knows he is a sb but he is still a 教育部长
don't u think there is sth wrong?
in the Chinese government..not much things are exactly 'right'...
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太多猫腻了
 
people build the system. it is still the problem of chinese people.
they bend for the authority. there is no right and wrong... only cowards behave obediently...

that is not the fault of any Party.
 
Hmm...just what are you implying? :blink:


最初由 smallguy 发布
only cowards behave obediently...
 
不是党不对,是党里边的人做事不厚道。。~‘
还有共产党就是不现实period
 
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