PM says he won't sell out human rights (to China)

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PM says he won't sell out human rights

SCOTT DEVEAU and BRIAN LAGHI

Globe and Mail Update

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TORONTO and ANCHORAGE ― Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Wednesday he won't sell out on human rights, even if it means sacrificing a meeting with Chinese President Hu Jintao that could be good for business.

“I don't think we've done anything unusual, other than the vigorous promotion of Canadian values and interests,” Mr. Harper said on his government aircraft on his way to Vietnam for a meeting of APEC.”

China delivered the diplomatic snub to the Canadian government earlier this week when Mr. Hu rejected a meeting with Mr. Harper, adding to an increasingly chilly relationship between the two countries.

“I think Canadians want us to promote our trade relations worldwide. We do that,” Mr. Harper said Wednesday. “But I don't think Canadians want us to sell out our values, our beliefs in democracy, freedom and human rights. They don't want us to sell that out to the almighty dollar.”
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But, Mr. Harper's confrontational stance is not the tack former Liberal minister of international trade and current president Canada China Business Council Sergio Marchi said he would recommend the PM take.

“What we want is for cooler heads to prevail and for our respective leaders to find a way and the time, and hopefully before they leave the APEC meeting in Vietnam, to have engaged one another,” Mr. Marchi said. “A relationship between the two men at the top has to be built and that's absolutely crucial.”

He said having dealt with China both politically and in business, once you establish a trusting relationship amongst leaders that that would trickle downward.

“It's not a situation that Mr. Harper shouldn't be talking about human rights,” Mr. Marchi said. “When you don't have a relationship, when it hasn't been raised between the two men, and the Chinese hear about just the human rights side of the ledger, then I'm afraid we run the risk of them interpreting it as a lecture or an attempt to embarrass them.”

But the current Opposition placed the blame for the snub squarely on the Tories' “juvenile” approach to its foreign policy.

“This snub by the Chinese is really in response to the new Conservative government's repeated snubs against China,” Liberal Foreign Affairs critic Keith Martin said in an interview Wednesday.

Mr. Harper had tried to set up a meeting with Mr. Hu this week ahead of the annual Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation conference that opens in Hanoi. It would have been the first substantive meeting between the two leaders since Mr. Harper took office, although they did have a brief chat at the Group of Eight summit last summer.

A spokeswoman for Mr. Harper wouldn't say Tuesday whether Canada considers the rejection an insult and did not say what reason the Chinese gave for not meeting with the Prime Minister.

Beijing has been a virtual revolving door for diplomats looking to share in China's booming economy ― even Thailand's coup leader was there earlier this month. But, the decision comes amid cooling bilateral relations as Canada takes a harder line on China's human rights record.

Mr. Martin accused the Tories of making several diplomatic blunders towards the Chinese, who are Canada's second largest trading partner behind the U.S., including waiting to meet with ambassadors from that country, having a Tory MP meet with the Dalai Lama, and until this fall, having none of his minister visit China.

Business groups have also complained about a lack of engagement, expressing concern that the two countries' economic relationship could be harmed.

More recently, Canadian officials confirmed that they are debating whether to proceed with an annual “human-rights dialogue.” The Tory caucus has been more critical of Chinese rights abuses and of the Chinese position on Taiwan.

“We all recognize that China has huge human rights issues, but you have two choices: you can disengage and throw stones from afar and have zero effect on what they do. Or you can engage the Chinese and, over time, have an effect on their human rights.”

“It speaks to a larger new foreign policy by this Conservative government, which is to primarily to focus on Canada-U.S. relations and ignore the rest of the world,” Mr. Martin said, adding that it is evidenced by the Tories turning their backs on their Kyoto commitments, for which Environment Minster Rona Ambrose is feeling the heat in Nairobi this week at a UN summit on climate change.

“It's a juvenile approach to foreign policy that this Conservative government has,” Mr. Martin said.
 
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1.snapper head from Va, Canada writes:
'won't sell our human rights?' what a crock! Ask anybody from the Lebanon about Canada's commitment to human rights. Ask the Canadian family that was torn to shreds by the Israelis about our firm commitment to human rights. Remember that one?

2. Green Jerry from Canada writes:
Oh yes, I forgot, the Liberal party was the party of dictators. It's better to appease thugs like Suharto and pepper spray our own citizens so he won't be offended. Every day Canadians are seeing a government that stands up for what is right no matter what the polls and focus groups say. Time to cut off foreign aid to China too.

3. D B R from kitchener, Canada writes:
Its funny how things work. Now teh Liberals are calling the pot black. Thoughout there term in office after the election of Bush, the liberals were never short of comment or a insult towards to the US. Of our relationship declined. Now the conservative with just cause of talking about china and the same thing happens. So which is more important hamun rights and fair working standards or anti americanism?

4. M B from Canada writes:
Generally, I am not a supporter of Tory policies and values, but this is one issue where I stand behind Mr. Harper. China requires trade with us as much as we do with them. For this reason, I believe we now have a strong opportunity to inform them how the world community sees their repressive human rights policies, eg Tibet, Turkmenistan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Falun Gong. As one of the first western democracies to recognize the PRC, the Chinese government must know that although we recognize their legitimacy, we cannot blindly ignore the negative aspects of their governance.
As such, I consider Keith Martin's (and the Liberal party's) views to be short sighted and juvenile.

5. K C from Canada writes:

Hmmm all about human rights eh? Mr. Harper, how about homosexuals? Are the not human enough for you? Must everyone be a right wingist or devout christian to be worthy enough?

Regarding (2) comments about foreign aid to China: Our economy and standard of living also feeds off low wage labour from China. So does that make us the saint? I think by exploiting low wage labour in developing countries does not make us more humane than the Chinese.

Having said that, I am a supporting of human rights, but would like to bring out a few more points so that we can all think about what we say before we make ourselves sound like hipocrites.


6. Stephen McNeil from Nova Scotia, Canada writes:
China has a strong stable economy, they do not need Canada's support. So if we say stop this or we wont work with you, they will not lose sleep or wealth over it. If we actually engage them, work with them economically, we may than be able to have a relationship to influence that. We had that under the Liberals. Now with the Conservatives, the Chinese don't care what we say or do. So how are we going to make a difference if we don't work together?

7.Eric Li from Calgary, Canada writes:
It is right that Canadians don't 'want us to sell out our values, our beliefs in democracy, freedom and human rights'. But people in the U.S. and Germany don't want their leaders sell theirs either. Mr. Harper should take a look at those leaders and find out how they handle the issues such as human right problem with Chinese government. Foreign affairs should be done in a diplomatic manner rather than always starting a sentence with 'You should...' or 'You have to...'. I believe the overall objective of Canadians is to maximum our interest in all field with a suitable and balanced approach.

8. S. S from Toronto, Canada writes:
Do we need that Trade with China?. Let us understand that Canada is one of the few countries in which China relies for its raw materials icluding uranium for their power plants. So we are in a good position to tell them what we feel about our values and what we expect our friends to do. If the Chinese have a problem with it let them take their trade elsewhere certainly we will not suffer. Those Jobs that got outsourced to china would then be forced to return back to Canada. We need that. I hate the conservatives but on this one its is Just Right

9. Evan Davies from Canada writes:

I'm surprised so many people on this board think that China needs our products. Has anyone been following the news that China's forging closer ties with Africa? Surely Canada is not so important to China as we like to think it is. As for human rights, I echo the comments of others here: what about the rights of gays, non-owners of guns, women, and children (to a relatively unchanged global climate) in Canada?

China isn't perfect by any means, but Harper's stand seems a little more based on a petulant response to a Chinese snub than on his real views. Wasn't he just trying to arrange a meeting? And now this tirade because he was refused? I think a bit of rewriting of history is occurring here: 'Actually, we never really wanted to meet with China because they're bad...'
 
Naive Tories, even big brother deals with China with a flex way.
 
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Naive Tories, even big brother deals with China with a flex way.
:))
 
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