加拿大媒体的老板

[只在乎曾经拥有]

你的确多次说过，其他加拿大人没有权力反对魁独(大意)。

你知道香港末代总督曾经要求过香港举行独立公投吗？中国的回答是：要投全国人民一起投。这也是对台独，疆独，藏独，任何企图独立人的回答。

要是在任何国家某个省，县，村，家庭或者什么宗教组织想要独立，不想遵守国家宪法，自己要求公投，那合适吗？这在任何国家也行不通。

你好像以为你很懂西方民主似的。怎么尽说些违反常识的话？

Hahaha, similar point, but you beat me by 2 minutes

 

[爱喝牛奶的wawdj]

你的确多次说过，其他加拿大人没有权力反对魁独(大意)。

你知道香港末代总督曾经要求过香港举行独立公投吗？中国的回答是：要投全国人民一起投。这也是对台独，疆独，藏独，任何企图独立人的回答。

要是在任何国家某个省，县，村，家庭或者什么宗教组织想要独立，不想遵守国家宪法，自己要求公投，那合适吗？这在任何国家也行不通。

你好像以为你很懂西方民主似的。怎么尽说些违反常识的话？

 

[如假包换的马甲]

如果印第安人通过全体投票(voting right)决定与加拿大分离(裂)， 你支持他们有决定独立的权利吗？

如果温哥华居民通过全体投票(voting right)决定与加拿大分离(裂)， 你支持他们有决定独立的权利吗？

如果坎屯(Kanata)居民通过全体投票(voting right)决定与加拿大分离(裂)， 你支持他们有决定独立的权利吗？

如果我们家街道全体居民通过全体投票(voting right)决定与加拿大分离(裂)， 你支持我们有决定独立的权利吗？

请读一下国际法关于国家的定义再来发言。

Yes, I support them.

People should have the right for free associations.

 

[如假包换的马甲]

你知道香港末代总督曾经要求过香港举行独立公投吗？中国的回答是：要投全国人民一起投。这也是对台独，疆独，藏独，任何企图独立人的回答。

That's why I said some Chinese are barbarians.

I hope when your husband or wife want a divorce, you could say:"I veto it, so, no you can't divorce from me"

 

[如假包换的马甲]

照你那么讲，你说服不了有些加拿大人，而和他们有unity。

他们有他们的逻辑，你证明不了他们的逻辑错，他们是不会换信念的。

Exactly.
I don't know if people want this demonstration to be a :

1. SHOW DOWN with 加拿大人
or
2. 说服 有些加拿大人

If you want to convince Canadians to be on our side, then don't force our 逻辑 on them!

 

[lindamy]

That's why I said some Chinese are barbarians.

I hope when your husband or wife want a divorce, you could say:"I veto it, so, no you can't divorce from me"

先别给人扣帽子。夫妻是平等的关系，而地区和国家是从属关系。希望你注意到这个区别。

 

[OtownHogtown]

你以为大家在这里骂你，　是因为你＂曲高和寡＂了？

现在看来，　是因为你无知．　是因为你不懂民主，　反而拿着民主装高雅．　

并且这不是一个FREE ASSOCIATION的问题， 是SOVEREIGNTY的问题。 真的是不懂装懂。

给你一个简单的READING:

Reference re Secession of Quebec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read it and try to understand the underlying Canadian Value...

1. Under the Constitution of Canada, can the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? NO
2. Does international law give the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec the right to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? In this regard, is there a right to self-determination under international law that would give the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec the right to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? NO

unilateral secession was not legal... However, should a referendum decide in favour of independence, the rest of Canada " would have no basis to deny the right of the government of Quebec to pursue secession." Negotiations would have to follow to define the terms under which Quebec would gain independence, should it maintain that goal.


现在不是提标新立异的政治主张的时候，　现在是支持奥运，　团结的时候．　

 

[爱喝牛奶的wawdj]

你以为大家在这里骂你，　是因为你＂曲高和寡＂了？

现在看来，　是因为你无知．　是因为你不懂民主，　反而拿着民主装高雅．　

并且这不是一个FREE ASSOCIATION的问题， 是SOVEREIGNTY的问题。 真的是不懂装懂。

给你一个简单的READING:

Reference re Secession of Quebec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read it and try to understand the underlying Canadian Value...

1. Under the Constitution of Canada, can the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? NO
2. Does international law give the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec the right to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? In this regard, is there a right to self-determination under international law that would give the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec the right to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? NO

unilateral secession was not legal... However, should a referendum decide in favour of independence, the rest of Canada " would have no basis to deny the right of the government of Quebec to pursue secession." Negotiations would have to follow to define the terms under which Quebec would gain independence, should it maintain that goal.


现在不是提标新立异的政治主张的时候，　现在是支持奥运，　团结的时候．　

自己民主比别人高级～加上外嫁了一个老外～
她其实想表达的是自己这种别人好似无法拥有的快感～

 

[OtownHogtown]

再说你这个无知的"民主人士"几句:

如果你去GOOGLE一下OCTOBER CRISIS, 你就会知道加拿大政府是如何对待少数QUEBECER的暴力独立事件的.

这里, 大家都在谴责3.14的暴力, 你跳出来说VOTE...

 

[fallenheart]

你们都上当鸟,她是受虐狂.

 

[如假包换的马甲]

再说你这个无知的"民主人士"几句:

如果你去GOOGLE一下OCTOBER CRISIS, 你就会知道加拿大政府是如何对待少数QUEBECER的暴力独立事件的.

这里, 大家都在谴责3.14的暴力, 你跳出来说VOTE...

Again, check your comprehension problem!

When and where did I say that a government shouldn't crack down violence/terrorism using force????

I also 谴责3.14的暴力....

how could you say I 无知, when you don't even understand my point of view???

 

[如假包换的马甲]

并且这不是一个FREE ASSOCIATION的问题， 是SOVEREIGNTY的问题。 真的是不懂装懂。

给你一个简单的READING:

Reference re Secession of Quebec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read it and try to understand the underlying Canadian Value...

1. Under the Constitution of Canada, can the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? NO
2. Does international law give the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec the right to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? In this regard, is there a right to self-determination under international law that would give the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec the right to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally? NO

unilateral secession was not legal... However, should a referendum decide in favour of independence, the rest of Canada " would have no basis to deny the right of the government of Quebec to pursue secession." Negotiations would have to follow to define the terms under which Quebec would gain independence, should it maintain that goal.

Don't you see the relation between free association and sovereignty?

October Crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Those who desire independence became fully conscious that it can and should be achieved through the democratic process. Those who are against independence, both in Quebec and elsewhere in Canada, received a traumatic shock and have made considerable effort to assuage French Canada's grievances as well as conceding that, if Quebec really wants to be independent, they cannot and will not stop it by force.[citation needed] There is a consensus in Canada amongst all factions that their differences will be resolved democratically.[citation needed]

 

[如假包换的马甲]

先别给人扣帽子。夫妻是平等的关系，而地区和国家是从属关系。希望你注意到这个区别。

If your father/mother(or whatever 从属关系 you can think of) battered and psychologically abused you throughout your life and understandably you want to have nothing to do with your father ever again for the rest of your life, could you unilaterally do so? do you need your father's consensus if you want to severe your relation with him?

 

[如假包换的马甲]

现在不是提标新立异的政治主张时候，　现在是支持奥运，　团结的时候．　

我 支持奥运，　支持团结.

我提"提标新立异的政治主张", 不过是不希望中国人被人认为不民主...唉, 用心良苦, 不被理解!

 

[lindamy]

If your father/mother(or whatever 从属关系 you can think of) battered and psychologically abused you throughout your life and understandably you want to have nothing to do with your father ever again for the rest of your life, could you unilaterally do so? do you need your father's consensus if you want to severe your relation with him?

Reference re Secession of Quebec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The court stated in its decision that under international law, the right to secede was meant for peoples under a colonial rule or foreign occupation. Otherwise, so long as a people has the meaningful exercise of its right to self-determination within an existing nation state, there is no right to secede unilaterally.