我的第一次

[Mussel Man]

第一次吃罚单了。

当时在woodroffe上前面没啥车，等完红灯启动，思想不集中，加速过头，立刻被躲在一边的交警拦下，测速器上是110 （限速是80）。 赶紧承认错误，警察说那就少算你点，算你时速100吧，罚单到手一看95刀，还说扣三点，当时也没idea这到底算是多还是少。回来同事说根本没少扣，以后保险还得跟着涨，扣的点要多年才消，俺当时就懵了。他们现劝我claim，因为以前多年一直是clean记录，如果能少扣点就是胜利，而且说基本都能减点，说不定开庭警察不到还可能销案。 俺知道俺的理亏，但觉得真能给我2nd chance少扣点也不坏，至少俺现在吸取教训开车再也不敢分神了。

大家有人有过出庭经验嘛，上庭好象有2种，一种是plead guilty with an explanation，另一种是trial option，我该选哪种？当庭的时候如何讨饶，为自己辩护，万一失败了有没有后果？

谢谢大家！:blowzy:

 

[1784]

there is a first time for everything ... try plead guilty with explanation, faster, you still have to pay some fine, but probably with no demerit points

 

[曾经也黄过]

read this site.

It says that (Ontario) insurance companies won't increase the premium due to first speeding ticket.

How to Fight a Speeding Ticket / Traffic Tickets / Speeding Ticket / Toronto Traffic Tickets

 

[开喜]

建议你上庭， 万一警察那天没来， 你就大获全胜。 警察来了， 你也可以说， 你那天跟我说不算严重不扣点的， 怎么还是扣了我三点呢， 因此我怀疑你那天记录不准确。。。 。。。

不争白不争。

With explanation呢， 我觉得要是我， 我就不用这个， 因为等于还是承认错误了。

 

[多伦多]

It'll work like this ( I went through this twice):

1. Take the Trial option and Check "Not Guilty" Box
2. Send the form back or go to the court (centrepoint, Nepean City Hall) and file a case
3. You'll receive a mail late on indicating the trial date (usually after a couple of months)
4. Go to court on trial day, should be there as early as possible;
5. Look and ask arround in the court room to see if the cop who charged you is there:

6a. if the cop isn't there, relax, go to the procecution officer sitting in the front row, register your case and insiste "not guilty"
7a. The judge will come in and go through the case one by one; When it's your turn, explain that you don't agree with the officer because of ..... try not to lie, like "I didn't exceed the speed limit ..." instead, you can say " the office didn't show me the meter reading", "I don't think I was speeding at that time" "He must spotted another car in front of me"...
8a. most likly, you case will be dismissed immiately

6b. If the officer is there, say hello to him, and explain that the reason why you come here and take the trial is to see if they can reduce the fine and points ... Do be very nice and friendly with him/her, no argument at all !!!
7b. go to see and register (BEFORE the judge come in!!!) with the procecution office and explain that you'll plea guilty (in sead of "not guilty" on your form) as you've chatted with he police officer and see if the fine and points could be reduced. Usually, the procecution officer will either reduce the fine or the points or both;
8b. Judge comes in and you just plea guilty and the judge will make a decision based on the material provided by the procecution officer

If you're there too late and miss the chance to talk to the procecution officer, what could happen is that the Judge will make an adjourn after the first a couple of cases and tell people "you might want to talk to the procecution office ..." and the procecution officer will go to another room and meeting people one by one, that's your second chance to explain to reduce the fine and points!

BTW, the chance of "no shown" by the cop is very slim these days, they'll make every effort possible to be there, as they'll be fined otherwise.

 

[小问号]

题目妙即啦.还以为是地一次啥辣

 

[沉默吧]

题目妙即啦.还以为是地一次啥辣

同感，以为第一次......

 

[Mussel Man]

多谢阿黄，队长，开喜指点。

也谢谢小问号和沉默吧的帮衬.

第一次很重要啊，一定要严肃认真对待，不能随便。

再次感谢热心人的帮助。

 

[michaelwang]

not choose 一种是plead guilty with an explanation,otherwise, you will 扣三点, for sure.

you must say you are no guilty. very important

 

[jasie]

It'll work like this ( I went through this twice):

1. Take the Trial option and Check "Not Guilty" Box
2. Send the form back or go to the court (centrepoint, Nepean City Hall) and file a case
3. You'll receive a mail late on indicating the trial date (usually after a couple of months)
4. Go to court on trial day, should be there as early as possible;
5. Look and ask arround in the court room to see if the cop who charged you is there:

6a. if the cop isn't there, relax, go to the procecution officer sitting in the front row, register your case and insiste "not guilty"
7a. The judge will come in and go through the case one by one; When it's your turn, explain that you don't agree with the officer because of ..... try not to lie, like "I didn't exceed the speed limit ..." instead, you can say " the office didn't show me the meter reading", "I don't think I was speeding at that time" "He must spotted another car in front of me"...
8a. most likly, you case will be dismissed immiately

6b. If the officer is there, say hello to him, and explain that the reason why you come here and take the trial is to see if they can reduce the fine and points ... Do be very nice and friendly with him/her, no argument at all !!!
7b. go to see and register (BEFORE the judge come in!!!) with the procecution office and explain that you'll plea guilty (in sead of "not guilty" on your form) as you've chatted with he police officer and see if the fine and points could be reduced. Usually, the procecution officer will either reduce the fine or the points or both;
8b. Judge comes in and you just plea guilty and the judge will make a decision based on the material provided by the procecution officer

If you're there too late and miss the chance to talk to the procecution officer, what could happen is that the Judge will make an adjourn after the first a couple of cases and tell people "you might want to talk to the procecution office ..." and the procecution officer will go to another room and meeting people one by one, that's your second chance to explain to reduce the fine and points!

BTW, the chance of "no shown" by the cop is very slim these days, they'll make every effort possible to be there, as they'll be fined otherwise.

wow, wish I had seen this before my first time.

saving it for my next time. thanks :thanks:

 

[大魔王]

靠，这个坑挖的好深。