Help:谁有在CANADIAN TIRE退snowblower的经验--刚被这家黑店忽悠了?

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Help:[FONT=宋体]谁在[/FONT]CANADIAN TIRE[FONT=宋体]退[/FONT][FONT=宋体]过[/FONT]Snowblower[FONT=宋体]或同它打官司的经验[/FONT]---[FONT=宋体]刚被这家黑店忽悠了[/FONT]?


We bought a snowblower, Yardwork YW277cc26" (product #060-3753-6), at Canadian Tire Barrhaven Store (in Ottawa, store #442) on Dec 29, 2009.

1. When the store employee recommended this snowerblower to us, he told us the 4-year limited warranty carries the on-site repair service

2. Canadian Tire Warranty for this product posted on their website is“This product carries a 7-day over-the-counter service warranty against initial defect” (see the link: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/2/PowerEquipment/Snowthrowers/PRD~0603753P/Yardworks%2B277%2Bcc%2B%252B%2B26-in%2BPowermore%253F%2BOHV%2BSnowthrower.jsp )

3. When we paid at the cashier, we asked about the warranty and were told the store will follow the promised Warranty Sheet which was packed with the manual. The warranty sheet lists 3 warranty:
1st, Return Policy—it can be returned due to manufacturer’s defect;
2nd, Replacement Warranty—if a defect is found within 7 days and the problem cannot be resolved over the phone, it can be returned to the store;
3rd, Repair Warranty—if the customer suspect a defect past the replacement warranty period and it cannot be resolved over the phone, the service adviser will direct you to your nearest authorized repair depot.

4. On the back of the receipt it shows “to return an item for exchange or refund, bring it to any Canadian Tire store within 90 days, in its original condition and packaging, with your receipt”

On Jan 2, we followed all the instructions on the operation manuals and tried to used it, it did not work. The problem is that after we set the shift level (we already tried different levels) then squeeze the control grip against the handle (to engage the wheel drive), it does not move (either backward or forward) at all. My husband called the manufacture Yardwork service line but the problem could not be solved over the phone. We also asked our neighbours who were operating their snowblowers at that time help us check if we operated correctly and we were told we did operate correctly.

We went to Canadian Tire Barrhaven Store the same day, Jan 2, 2010. The customer service denied the return policy and refused to return it. They said they could exchange or on-site repair. Since the return policy is clearly shown on the warranty sheet, we told the store that we just want to return. The store on duty manager told us that if we want to return, we must call the manufacture Yardworks service line 1-866-523-5218 (which only open Jan 4) to get a “Return Authorization number” then refused to deal with us any more.

This afternoon (Jan 4th), we brought the 230 lbs snowerblower back to the store, in its original condition (we did not use it as it does not work at all) with receipt and warranty sheet. The store on duty manager refused the return & replacement warranty and on-site repair. He refused to provide anything in writing regarding the explanation or the warranty policies. He even refused to provide anything in writing that we contact the store the store regarding the warranty issue today (within 7 days). He told us he only gave us 2 options, either leave the snowblower at the store for repair and assessment (if it is a manufacture defect) or bring it back home. Finally he called the policy. After 3 policemen came, the store on duty manager still denied the return policy and replacement warranty. He insisted that we need to leave the snowerblower at the store then the store sends to its authorized local repair centre to do assessment and repair. We left the snowblower at the store for assessment but we mentioned that we did not accept the repair.
Now, we are still thinking about going to the court.

 
Can't you just bring it back to the CT where you bought it and return it?
 
到轮胎店退货? 又是高价大件,那多难呢!趁早打消这个想法吧,还能多活几年。付了钱等待发货的东西都退不了,何况买到家里的,而且是拆了封的,并且是用过的,哪怕只有一秒钟。
你也太小瞧轮胎店了。
 
It will be very easy if you still have the box and the receipt.

step 1:
disassemble the snowblower, and then put it back to the box.

step 2:
return it to (any) CT. If they ask for the reason, tell them "one of my householder member also brought the same item, I don't need to have two snowblowers". don't mention it doesn't work.
这是自找麻烦,退货时,他们留有你的个人信息,到时候就会起诉你欺诈。你会留案底的!又不是做贼,何必呢?在这里的文化里,“撒谎”绝对是个大问题,如果上庭,一旦法官认定你撒谎,你的陈诉可能都因为你没有信用而不被采纳,损失大了。你可以误导可以威胁,但不可以撒谎。你误导,他信了,是他蠢;你威胁,他屈服了,是他懦弱,这都是不被同情的。你撒谎性质就变了。
 
到CANADIAN TIRE 退货很容易!如果是在CANADIAN TIRE 买的东西,到任何一家店说明原因都能退货。
那是你没有去过Barrhaven店。
退大件货时,即使到其它店退,他们也会打电话到原店确认,因为最终账目要原店出。
Barrhaven店与法庭是一条龙,你不去法庭,很难退货。
 
做人要诚实. 退货时就告诉CT, 这个SNOW BLOWER不WORK, 不然他们又会卖给别人.

上个月在THE BAY买了一个$200左右的咖啡壶, 买回来试了一晚上都不WORK, 第二天拿去换, CUSTOMER SERVICE说, 这个品牌的咖啡壶从来没有人说有问题, 可能是我不会用. 结果他们试了有20分钟, 也不工作, 就让我拿了个新的. 虽然耽误我好长时间, 但我让她们认识到了第一: 这个品牌的咖啡壶也有有问题的. 第二: 不能再卖给别人, 否则别人也会来退(换)货.
 
做人要诚实. 退货时就告诉CT, 这个SNOW BLOWER不WORK, 不然他们又会卖给别人.

上个月在THE BAY买了一个$200左右的咖啡壶, 买回来试了一晚上都不WORK, 第二天拿去换, CUSTOMER SERVICE说, 这个品牌的咖啡壶从来没有人说有问题, 可能是我不会用. 结果他们试了有20分钟, 也不工作, 就让我拿了个新的. 虽然耽误我好长时间, 但我让她们认识到了第一: 这个品牌的咖啡壶也有有问题的. 第二: 不能再卖给别人, 否则别人也会来退(换)货.
正解。
 
那是你没有去过Barrhaven店。
退大件货时,即使到其它店退,他们也会打电话到原店确认,因为最终账目要原店出。
Barrhaven店与法庭是一条龙,你不去法庭,很难退货。

去法庭的过程是怎么样的?我准备去告家黑店了.气死我了!
 
Absolutely not lie to Canadian Tire. Remember that when you buy something, especially a big item like snowblower, you should always ask the return/refund policy. In most of the stores (not only the Canadian Tire), the policy is that you can not return the big items (like snowblower, treadmill, etc.) to the store if it does not work. You should contact the manufacturer for your next actions. Good luck.
 
My own experience with CT stores in Kanata & Bells Corners was very good. Returning items to the 2 stores has NEVER been a problem for many years.

Regarding "big-item" goods, I returned a lawn-mower to the Kanata CT in Sep-2009 on the next day I bought it, because the mower stopped working in the middle of its first mowing. At the counter, I told them the very truth (mower died on first use leaving me half of my lawn uncut, I needed to return it and buy another one). The store accepted the return without any unpleasant feeling.

As a consumer, I vote the stores with my purchases. First of all, I read each store's return/replacement/warranty policy before I buy. If I agree with the policy, I make purchases and expect myself and the store both follow the policy. If there's anything not specified in the policy, I would go to the store and try to negotiate to my favor. Getting it, I'm happy; Not getting it, I accept and move on.

Any store that fails to satisfy me per their own policy will be on my "black-list" no matter how cheap their goods are or how closely they are located. If it's the first time, I stop buying from them until they appologize and rectify things to my satifaction. If it's more than once, that store will never see me there again. For stores that received frequent consumer complaints (such as the CT store in Barheaven), I will never visit.

Life is too short to deal with bad stores/people. My happiness and good mood dealing with great stores and nice people worth a lot to me.
 
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