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美国人民终于站起来了, 都有医疗保险了. 整整落后中国61年 ;);)

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Health care latest: House passes legislation

March 21, 2010 11:18 p.m. EDT

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the health care vote is personal to millions of Americans.









STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Live blog: Constant updates with CNN's latest reporting
  • House passes the Senate health care bill, 219-212
  • Rep. Bart Stupak reaches deal with the White House on abortion funding
  • Republicans characterize legislation as a "government takeover"

Follow the very latest on the health care vote and find out what it means for you, tonight on CNN. Watch the debate online, on TV and your iPhone.
Washington (CNN) -- The House is set to vote Sunday on the health care bill passed by the Senate in December.
Here's the latest on what's happening on Capitol Hill:
11:08 p.m.: CNN's Brianna Keilar reports: A Republican lawmaker shouted out "baby killer" as Rep. Bart Stupak explained why he would not support the motion to recommit.
Stupak sponsored an amendment in the House bill that included tougher language on restricting federal funding of abortions.
Stupak decided to support the Senate bill after President Obama said he would sign an executive order that would make sure the health care reform law would be consistent with current restrictions on federal funding for abortions.
10:55 p.m.: Republicans have offered a motion to recommit, which is their last chance to kill the bill.
The Republican motion is to amend the language on abortion in the just-passed Senate bill.
10:48 p.m.: The House passes the Senate health care bill, 219-212.
All 178 Republicans opposed it, along with 34 Democrats.
The House then moved on to consider the reconciliation package.
10:31 p.m.: Lawmakers are voting on the health care legislation. The vote will last for 15 minutes.
10:17 p.m.: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi praised the health care legislation for its ability to "unleash tremendous entrepreneurial power into our economy."
Pelosi said the fact that the bill is on the cusp of passing is due to the leadership of President Obama.
She also cited the legacy of the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, who wrote in a letter to Obama that health care is the "great unfinished business of our society."
"That is -- until today," she said.
10:07 p.m.: House Minority Leader John Boehner delivers fiery remarks, slamming the contents of the health care bill and the process leading up to the vote.
Speaking about the way the bill was written, Boehner asked, "Can you say it was done openly, with transparency and accountability? Without backroom deals struck behind closed doors, hidden from the people?
"Hell no you can't!"
10:01 p.m.: CNN's Ed Henry reports: In his remarks after the health care vote, President Obama will be blunt about casting the House's expected passage of his health care legislation as an achievement of historic proportions that shows he's starting to deliver on the dramatic change he promised on the campaign trail, according to Democratic officials familiar with the planned remarks.
"He's going to say we delivered -- that we rose to the challenge," said one of the Democratic officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss Obama's speech before it is delivered. "It's about change, and what change looks like."
9:45 p.m.: Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Virginia, said that when it comes to health care reform, the only bipartisanship he's seen is in the opposition to it.
"We believe this government must stop spending money that it doesn't have," said Cantor, the House minority whip.
"The choice before us is very clear. The choice is whether we want to become a country that is unrecognizable or one that will fulfill the American dream."
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9:40 p.m.: Democratic Rep. Allen Boyd, a member of the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats, said that while the health care bill is not perfect, "the other side has brought us no viable alternatives."
"If not this, then what? If not now, then when?" the Florida lawmaker asked.
8:58 p.m.: Democratic Rep. Tim Bishop of New York said that "amidst angry and at times even hateful rhetoric, amidst the misinformation and scare tactics, there exists one simple truth, and that truth is that the current system is unsustainable."
Last summer, Bishop suspended his town hall meetings following a particularly unruly event.
8:38 p.m.: Republican Rep. Tom Price, a doctor from Georgia, said health care is a "moral endeavor and should be grounded in principle."
"This is a sad day, yes, because there are so many wonderful and positive and patient-centered solutions that could be enacted. You see, we trust patients and families. They trust government," he said.
7:57 p.m.: In an impassioned speech, Rep. John Lewis, D-Georgia, urges his colleagues to pass health care reform.
"This may be the most important vote that we cast as members of this body. We have a moral obligation today, tonight to make health care a right and not a privilege," Lewis said.
"On this day, at this moment, in this chamber, answer the call of history, answer the spirit of history and pass health care. Give the American people a victory. Give health care a chance," he said to applause.
Republican Rep. John Linder, also from Georgia, said he feels "rude trying to inject some fact into this Kabuki Theatre but I'm going to try."
"This has never been about health care. This is about government," he said, arguing that the proposed legislation would destroy health care for those who are happy with the coverage they have.
7:54 p.m.: If House Democrats pass the Senate bill Sunday night, as is expected, a senior administration official said "it won't be signed today," CNN's Dan Lothian reports.
Instead, the president will deliver remarks after the vote in the White House East Room.
7:38 p.m.: Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao will vote "no" on the health care bill, CNN's Dana Bash reports.
Cao was the one Republican who voted for the House bill in November.
The Louisiana representative said he will not support the Senate bill because of its abortion language.
Cao does not think the executive order goes far enough, his chief of staff said.
7:26 p.m.: Republican and House members are lined up for what might be their last opportunity for a voice in the debate over health care.
The arguments echo what has been heard in larger debate over health care reform over the last year.
Republicans are criticizing the landmark legislation as a "takeover" of the health care system that would expand federal funding of abortion and saddle future generations of Americans with debt.
Democrats are lauding the legislation as allowing all Americans health care coverage and preventing insurance companies from denying coverage from those who need it most.
6:52 p.m.: Debate will be followed by three votes: a vote on the Senate bill, a vote on the motion to recommit on the reconciliation package (a Republican motion), and a vote on the reconciliation package.
Republicans are expected to throw up parliamentary roadblocks throughout the debate.
6:43 p.m.: House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer opens debate.
Republicans and Democrats have one hour each to make their case.
6:28 p.m.: The House votes to move into general debate over the health care legislation. The vote is 224-206.
Debate is slated for two hours.
The fact that the motion to debate passed is an indication that Democrats have enough votes to pass the legislation itself.
6:04 p.m.: House Republicans blast the executive order in a news conference.
Republican Rep. Jean Schmidt said an executive order "is not worth the paper it is printed on."
"It is not the law of the land and it can be rescinded in the blink of an eye," she said.
5:04 p.m.: President Obama will make a statement following the House vote.
4:50 p.m.: Asked whether Democrats have the 216 votes needed to pass health care legislation, House Majority Whip James Clyburn said, "We're feeling good, with room to spare," CNN's Dana Bash reports.
4:39 p.m.: Asked her reaction to the deal over abortion funding, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, "We're very pleased that we have more votes for the bill," CNN's Kevin Bohn reports.
4:07 p.m.: Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Michigan, announces that he, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the White House have reached an agreement that protects "the sanctity of life in health care reform."
Stupak and other anti-abortion Democrats had said they would oppose the Senate bill because of concerns it would expand federal funding of abortion.
House vote on health reform expected to be extremely close
4:07 p.m.: One hour of debate has begun on the rules for debate and vote on the health care legislation.
3:59 p.m.: President Obama will issue an executive order after a health care bill is passed "that will reaffirm its consistency with longstanding restrictions on the use of federal funds for abortion," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said.
The order does not change the law, but it will provide "additional safeguards to ensure that the status quo is upheld and enforced, and that the health care legislation's restrictions against the public funding of abortions cannot be circumvented."
3:35 p.m.: Republican Rep. David Dreier of California said lawmakers know with "absolute certainty" that the only thing they are guaranteed is what's in the Senate bill, which all House Republicans and a number of Democrats oppose.
Democratic Rep. Louise Slaughter interrupted, saying, "No you don't!"
"The best way that they can achieve their ends of removing the things that are objectionable from the Senate bill is to support reconciliation," she said as lawmakers cheered and jeered.
3:28 p.m.: Stupak, D-Michigan, will hold a news conference at 4 p.m., CNN's Deirdre Walsh reports.
Stupak is part of a coalition of Democrats who oppose the Senate bill because they say it would expand federal funding of abortion.
3:02 p.m.: The House defeats a Republican point of order from Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin.
Another Republican point of order from Darrell Issa of California is now being debated.
2:40 p.m.: Ryan called the health care bill a "fiscal Frankenstein."
"It is not too late to get it right. Let's start over. Let's defeat this bill," he said.
2:30 p.m.: Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-Rhode Island, son of the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, said there are significant parallels between the struggle for civil rights and the fight to make quality, affordable health care accessible to all Americans.
Quoting the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., Kennedy said, "Of all forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and humane."
1 p.m.: The House convenes.
Lawmakers spend about an hour giving one-minute speeches and taking votes on issues unrelated to health care.
Do Democrats have the votes?: Democratic leaders continue to try to round up the 216 necessary votes to pass the bill in the House.
Rep. John Larson, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, said told CNN's "State of the Union" that "We've got the votes."
"This is a historic day and we are happy warriors," Larson said.
But the chief deputy whip in the House was cautious.
"We don't have a hard 216 right now," Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Florida, told "Fox News Sunday" just as Larson was speaking to CNN. But, she added, "I firmly believe we will have 216."
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said Sunday morning, "We are going to get the votes this afternoon."
Latest vote count: According to CNN's latest count, 33 Democrats plan to vote against the legislation. Thirty-eight Democratic "no" votes are needed to kill the bill.
Six House Democrats have told CNN they haven't yet decided how they will vote, and two have not responded to CNN's repeated inquiries.
See how Democrats plan to vote
Can Republicans block the vote?: Democrats control Congress, so they should be able to bring the Senate bill, and a package of changes to it, to a vote. But Republicans plan to impede the process as much as they can.
Without spelling out specifics, House Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence of Indiana promised to do just that.
"We are going to use every means at our disposal to oppose this government takeover of health care," Pence told "State of the Union." "Because quite frankly, as thousands gather at rallies all across this country and here in the nation's capital yesterday, you know, the American people are sick and tired of runaway federal spending by both parties, of borrowing and bailouts and takeovers. And I believe this is going to be a historic weekend."
Asked what measures Republicans might take, Pence replied, "Stay tuned, it's going to be an interesting day."
Working the phones: Former President Clinton made several phone calls Saturday to lobby wavering Democrats to sign on to the health care reform bill, Democratic sources told CNN.
11th hour appeal: President Obama on Saturday made his last appeal for the reform bill, telling House Democrats on the eve of the historic vote: "Let's get this done."
"If you agree that the system is not working for ordinary families, if you've heard the same stories that I've heard everywhere, all across the country, then help us fix the system," Obama said.
'Deeming' ditched: Democratic leaders on Saturday decided to abandon a controversial legislative mechanism that could have avoided a direct vote on the legislation. They will hold an up-or-down vote on the reform plan that the Senate has already passed.
If the Senate bill passes the House, Obama will sign it into law. If the package of changes is passed, it will be taken up by the Senate.
Protests get ugly: Three black Democratic lawmakers -- including civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis of Georgia -- said demonstrators against the health care bill yelled racist epithets at them Saturday as they walked past. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri said a protester spit at him. Capitol police said a demonstrator was arrested in that incident.
In addition, protesters yelled anti-gay comments at Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, an openly gay Democrat.
Leaders of both parties condemned the protesters' actions.
iReport: Make your case on health care reform
Obama targets insurers in final health care push
Obama's Sunday plans: A White House official said the president is "in the West Wing, getting updates, dropping in on staff, and like the rest of America, examining the rubble of his [NCAA basketball] bracket."
The official added that Obama "made a surprise appearance at an 11 a.m. meeting of senior staff," and is "preparing to make and take member phone calls as we move toward the vote."
Legislation revealed: Democratic leaders unveiled the text of the reconciliation act for health care on Thursday. Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010 (pdf)
Section-by-section analysis (pdf)
The price tag: The compromise health care bill drafted by top Democrats will cost $940 billion over the next 10 years, according to a preliminary analysis released Thursday by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.
Read the CBO preliminary estimate (pdf)
The bill cuts the deficit by $138 billion during that period, the CBO report said. It would further reduce the deficit by another $1.2 trillion in the following decade, two House Democratic sources said.
GOP leaders said the new CBO estimates had not changed their opinion of the bill, which they vehemently oppose.
What happens next?: Democrats hope to pass the Senate bill Sunday and the package of changes designed in part to make the overall legislation more acceptable to House Democrats. President Obama can sign the bill into law if it passes.
The Senate would vote to approve the changes to its bill this week by a simple majority vote.
See which parts of the health care plan would kick in quickly
 
副作用是:

- 美国要加税.
- 美元将继续贬值, 今年某一天我们会看到 1US$ = C$0.8
- 股市要有很大的下跌调整.
 
副作用是:

- 美国要加税.
- 美元将继续贬值, 今年某一天我们会看到 1US$ = C$0.8
- 股市要有很大的下跌调整.

看来,现在把美元兑换为加元;等1US$ = C$0.8的时候再买回来。如何?:p
 
看来,现在把美元兑换为加元;等1US$ = C$0.8的时候再买回来。如何?:p

现在家里有大把加币的是大爷, 有大把美钞的很快要当孙子了. :rolleyes:
悲观的人认为, 美元兑换为加元最终要到US$1 = C$0.6

当然对加拿大的经济会有很大影响. 银行里加币多的不用怕.
 
现在家里有大把加币的是大爷, 有大把美钞的很快要当孙子了. :rolleyes:
悲观的人认为, 美元兑换为加元最终要到US$1 = C$0.6

当然对加拿大的经济会有很大影响. 银行里加币多的不用怕.

那我就把手头那几张美元换成加元,等到US$1 = C$0.60的时候,我再用这钱把美元买回来。:p

对了,美国这个医疗改革法案,不是最后通过,已经成为法律吧?
 
那我就把手头那几张美元换成加元,等到US$1 = C$0.60的时候,我再用这钱把美元买回来。:p

对了,美国这个医疗改革法案,不是最后通过,已经成为法律吧?

是最后通过, 共和党的反向议案已经被否决. 就等奥巴马签字后就成为法律了.
 
奥巴马可是翻了美国百年大案.多少届民主党总统当年有类似提案都没有被通过.
 
那我就把手头那几张美元换成加元,等到US$1 = C$0.60的时候,我再用这钱把美元买回来。:p

那都不是主要的, 关键是有个稳定的工作, 比如政府啦, OCTRANSPO的司机了, 市政府工作人员. 他们的稳定平均87000加币年薪,将在接下来至少5年, 傲视其他工种,民众和纳税人.:D

美元继续走软对加拿大高科技行业,其他制造业非常不利.:mad:
 
是最后通过, 共和党的反向议案已经被否决. 就等奥巴马签字后就成为法律了.
 
奥巴马可是翻了美国百年大案.多少届民主党总统当年有类似提案都没有被通过.

翻看了一下。嗯,是最终通过,只差奥巴马签字了。

好么,他们周末加班啊!
 
那都不是主要的, 关键是有个稳定的工作, 比如政府啦, OCTRANSPO的司机了, 市政府工作人员. 他们的稳定平均87000加币,将在接下来至少5年, 傲视其他工种,民众和纳税人.:D

美元继续走软对加拿大高科技行业,其他制造业非常不利.:mad:

那都不是主要的, 关键是有个稳定的工作

:cool::cool:

这两年,“有个稳定的工作最重要”是常听到的口头禅了。
 
美国人民终于站起来了, 都有医疗保险了. 整整落后中国61年 ;);)。。。。。

中国恐怕一直没有全民统一的医疗保险体制吧?

中国过去的不是,现在的也不是全民统一的医疗保险体制。
 
支持奥巴马!
奥巴马创造了历史,必将留芳美国历史

提外话:落后中国60年就别提了,根本不是一回事
中国什么时候有过真正意义的全民医保?
就算是毛时代
首先占人口绝大多数的农民没有过医保
其次城市,没有国营工作或大集体工作的城市人口没有医保
有医疗保险的是有国营或大集体工作的人及其家属

现在中国就更别提了,没有好单位没有钱就甭看病了
所以现在中国考公务员比高考难百倍
 
中国恐怕一直没有全民统一的医疗保险体制吧?

中国过去的不是,现在的也不是全民统一的医疗保险体制。

还是村长高明,比在下快发2分钟
所以说奥巴马是美国人特别是美国平民的英雄:cool:
那么多美国总统 (里根,卡特,克林顿等)一直想做都没成功
奥巴马一年就做成了,说明奥巴门人格魅力超强:cool:

中国现在超级富有,(按本山大叔的话说,美国人都要找咱中国借钱,春晚观众个个开心笑翻), 不知什么时候中国也出个平民英雄总理,实行全面医保,让所有中国平民有病能看得起,有尊严地活着生病着
 
支持奥巴马!
奥巴马创造了历史,必将留芳美国历史

提外话:落后中国60年就别提了,根本不是一回事
中国什么时候有过真正意义的全民医保?
就算是毛时代
首先占人口绝大多数的农民没有过医保
其次城市,没有国营工作或大集体工作的城市人口没有医保
有医疗保险的是有国营或大集体工作的人及其家属

现在中国就更别提了,没有好单位没有钱就甭看病了
所以现在中国考公务员比高考难百倍

在这方面,美国落后于加拿大40多年,总算赶上来了。奥巴马确实创造了美国的历史,必将留芳千古。

下一步,就是如何埋单、谁买单了。美国政府背上这个包袱,是必须得找出路滴。
 
在中国跟随美国废除全面公费医疗后,美国通过了全民医疗! 那谁,茅于轼,张维迎等等现在是不是该鼓吹公费医疗了?

这是百年来全世界社会主义运动的又一个胜利嘛。 建议老胡代表中共中央给民主党中央的同志们发电报表示祝贺

然而全民为医疗买单,必然随之而来的就是政府的介入以防止医疗费用过高。

美国在社会主义化的道路上又走出了坚实的一步。就跟社会主义者争取到的八小时工作制一样, 这种东西给出去了再拿回来就难喽。。。。

中国人有叫奥巴马“毛巴马”的算是叫对了,呵呵。。。。下手狠。接下来就要外争国权跟中国人搞贸易摩擦了。。。。
 
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