赵平波发公开信51网股权之争浮出水面

赵平波对1/3不满意,要涨到1/2, 赵平原一气之下,那就从1/3改成1/5吧.于是谈崩, 赵平波公告天下. :D

他俩都应该去学学"common interest", 维持1/3不就得了? 1/3 保持现状是最好的结局. 其实双方都有空间可以斡旋. :)
 
打算靠舆论给弟弟压力?我看这最后兄弟都没得做了。
 
打算靠舆论给弟弟压力?我看这最后兄弟都没得做了。
赵平波对1/3不满意,要涨到1/2, 赵平原一气之下,那就从1/3改成1/5吧.于是谈崩, 赵平波公告天下. :D

他俩都应该去学学"common interest", 维持1/3不就得了? 1/3 保持现状是最好的结局. 其实双方都有空间可以斡旋. :)

与死扛杨澜,吴征那会儿相比,兄弟俩日子好过多了,可是不舒心了。我有点看不明白平波,心态有问题。亲兄弟,明算账,对媒体放话就过了。
 
与死扛杨澜,吴征那会儿相比,兄弟俩日子好过多了,可是不舒心了。我有点看不明白平波。

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To end suffering, selfish desire must be removed. Just as a fire dies when no fuel is added, so unhappiness will end when the fuel of selfish desire is removed. When selfish desire is completely removed, there will be no more suffering. Our mind will be in a state of perfect peace. Buddhists call this state Nirvana.[/FONT]
 
西村副说的跟我的感觉相同,他哥这一手做过火了,这两人以后看来连兄弟都没得做了,而且很有可能会牵连到51网。
 
家和万事兴,希望他们能够化干戈为玉帛,同心协力,把51办得更好。
 
这一不幸的论断﹐不仅仅在许许多多的中国家族企业中得到了应验﹐现在终于也在我们兄弟之间应验了﹕8月25日﹐赵平原利用他的大股东的身份﹐在我这位公司董事之一不知情的情况下﹐剥夺了我的公司银行账户进入权…..

负责公司财务的我﹐居然进入不了公司银行账户了﹐
按照我们兄弟的约定﹐51. ca公司账户下的钱﹐全是他赵平原的﹐尽管我也有15%的股份﹐但我每月的分成﹐当月就提走了。尽管如此﹐51. ca公司的银行账户﹐却是哥哥我一直在操作。每每看到公司银行账户下存款﹐数字都在节节窜升﹐不仅仅是我为赵平原着急﹐钱怎么不花也不投资﹐连银行里的工作人员也在替他着急﹐每次存钱﹐我都会得到提醒﹕这么多钱﹐投资这个基金﹑那个基金吧。但我却是无可奈何﹐这钱可不是我的﹐要是我的﹐我早投资别的去了﹗


但是﹐不幸的事情还是发生了﹐弟弟赵平原首先是拒绝在谅解备忘录上签字。然后﹐利用他的大股东的身份﹐赵平原8月25日独自到银行去﹐把我的51. ca公司账户的进入权剥夺了。以后﹐51. ca公司签署支票的权力﹐也仅仅他一个人才有﹕这就意味着﹐至少以后我每个月的收入水平﹐要看弟弟赵平原的脸色了﹐他开多少﹐我就只能拿多少。为此﹐目前住在我家来探亲的父母亲十分着急﹐迫切希望双方冷静﹐都要讲道德。赵平原的回答是﹐他是个讲道德的人﹐只是道德不算高尚。要把他逼急了﹐他只好赶哥哥走人﹐但哥哥我﹐毕竟有公司15%的股份﹐这15%的利润分红他还是会分的﹐尽管作为大股东﹐他有权决定不分红……

大股东能剥夺小股东帐户进入权?

那么如果两方51%, 49%,那51%的如果对49%的不满意,那不就要把49%的玩惨了?
 
大股东能剥夺小股东帐户进入权?
帐户的管理权跟股东没有关系. 难道你买了微软的股票,就想进它的帐户看看?
股东只有股东大会的投票权和分红的权利. 只有公司有关的管理人员才有帐户的管理权.
在他们这个情况下,股东和管理人员的身份合二为一了,虽然股东的身份别人不能剥夺,但管理人员的身份是可以剥夺的. 换句话说哥哥被裁了,虽然他还有15%的股权. 这事我看这个哥哥还真没辙!
 
帐户的管理权跟股东没有关系. 难道你买了微软的股票,就想进它的帐户看看?
股东只有股东大会的投票权和分红的权利. 只有公司有关的管理人员才有帐户的管理权.
在他们这个情况下,股东和管理人员的身份合二为一了,虽然股东的身份别人不能剥夺,但管理人员的身份是可以剥夺的. 换句话说哥哥被裁了,虽然他还有15%的股权. 这事我看这个哥哥还真没辙!

如果一开始哥哥能操作公司银行帐户, 一般都应该有书面的东西和意外情况处理条理, 比如股东决议之类. 85%股东是可以开管理人员, 但应该有个程序.

如果没有程序那不乱套了. 不说他们85%,15%情况, 如果A是51%, B是49%, 如果没程序,A这星期偷偷摸摸把公司的90%钱以各种名义(供应商,软件服务等等)打给A的相关人员, B就只有干瞪眼等公司破产的份?
 
如果一开始哥哥能操作公司银行帐户, 一般都应该有书面的东西和意外情况处理条理, 比如股东决议之类. 85%股东是可以开管理人员, 但应该有个程序.

如果没有程序那不乱套了. 不说他们85%,15%情况, 如果A是51%, B是49%, 如果没程序,A这星期偷偷摸摸把公司的90%钱以各种名义(供应商,软件服务等等)打给A的相关人员, B就只有干瞪眼等公司破产的份?
如果不是上市公司, 法律上对程序,章程之类的书面文件没有严格的要求,只要你安章纳税就可以了. 至于偷转钱的问题,就是涉嫌贪污,如有证据B可提起诉讼. 这就是合伙做生意的风险, 所谓的Joint Venture.
 
如果不是上市公司, 法律上对程序,章程之类的书面文件没有严格的要求,只要你安章纳税就可以了. 至于偷转钱的问题,就是涉嫌贪污,如有证据B可提起诉讼. 这就是合伙做生意的风险, 所谓的Joint Venture.

现在的可能就是两个:
1) 赵平波 对 赵平原起诉, 关键看双方有什么把柄(诸如经营,税务之类)握在对方手上, 这是最糟糕的结局.
2) 赵平波 和 赵平原 和解, 网站声誉,广告会有损失. 但是生意还有恢复的可能.
 
赵平波申请法庭令分配加国无忧资产,兄弟之争升级

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赵平波申请法庭令分配加国无忧资产,兄弟之争升级大中公益网096.ca 2012年01月12日 19:20 来源:大中报记者南茜(Nancy Jin) [ 加大字体 | 缩小字体 ]
51.ca brothers tension escalates into court battle
根据《大中报》获得的法庭文件,49岁的赵平波申请法庭颁令对加国无忧资产进行清算,分配或处理,或令其43岁的弟弟赵平原购买他在加国无忧公司中享有的产业和利润。赵平波的这一法律行动表明加国无忧股东之间的内部间隙不断升级。
It seems that an internal feud between two brothers, 49-year-old Pingbo Zhao and 43- year-old Pingyuan Zhao who are also co-owners of 51.ca has been escalating, as Pingbo applies for a court order to wind up or dispose of the company, or to sell his shares of assets and profits in the company to his brother, according to court documents obtained by Chinese News.

赵平原已经向法庭递交了对将该法庭申请作出回应的通知。但是直至截稿时止,回应文件尚未出现于法庭资料中。
Pingyuan filed a Notice of Appearance indicating he intended to respond to the application. However, no responding document had been available in court file by press time.

赵平波于2011年11月递交安省高等法院的申请中称其弟赵平原取消了他在公司账户的签字权,不准许他以管理员身份登入网站,拒绝向他公布其在公司的资产份额和利润,并将其解雇。
In the application Pingbo filed to the Superior Court of Ontario in Nov. 2011, he claimed that his younger brother Pingyuan cancelled his signing authority in the company’s account, blocked his administrative access to the website, terminated his employment and refused to account for his share of profits and earnings in the company.

随申请提交的赵平波的证词说,两兄弟在2002年2月推出了加国无忧网站。2002年3月加国无忧和星星传媒签订协议,星星传媒拥有加国无忧60%的股份,赵平波拥有15%股份,赵平原拥有25%股份。
An affidavit filed with the application indicates that the two brothers launched 51.ca in Feb. 2002. In Mar. 2002, at the time a contract was signed between 51.ca and NewStarWeekly (New Star), New Star held 60% of shares, Pingbo 15% and Pingyuan 25%.

根据证词书,与星星传媒签订协议数月后,赵平原因每月$1800元的工资与星星传媒发生争端而返回中国。加国无忧与星星传媒的合同未能续约,并退回了星星传媒的股份。赵平原坚持收回这些股份,当时赵平波没有“过于在意”。
A few months after the contract was signed, Pingyuan went back to China following a dispute with New Star on his $1800 monthly salary. The contract was then discontinued and New Star shares were returned. Pingyuan insisted that the shares be returned to him and Pingbo was not “overly concerned” at the time.

赵平波挣来的利润
Pingbo’s made all profits

赵平波在证词中说,他认为公司在2006年至2010年间赚取的所有利润属他个人功绩,因为赵平原有半年时间是在中国运作其他项目,而他全面负责公司日常商务事宜。
According to the affidavit, Pingbo believed that all the profits the company earned between 2006 and 2010 were the results of his efforts alone, as Pingyuan spent half a year in China working on other projects and he was responsible for all daily operations.

赵平原返回中国后,赵平波接手了加国无忧的运作。至2002年底,加国无忧网站每月广告收入达到$500元,赵平波当时获40%的广告佣金。
After Pingyuan returned to China, Pingbo took over 51.ca’s operation and received 40% of advertising income by the end of 2002, when the site’s monthly advertising reached $500 per month.

证词书称,当9岁女童张东岳于2003年从家中遭绑架后,赵平波抓住该事件所创造之机以增加网站的点击率。他创建了网络论坛,让网友发表评论。他昼夜不停地发表消息,对事件即时更新。加国无忧网站的点击率随之大增,包括《多伦多星报》和《明报》在内的许多大报也会引用该网站提供的信息。
When 9-year-old Cecilia was abducted from her home in 2003, Pingbo captured the opportunity created by this incident to increase the site’s traffic, according to the affidavit. He created a forum that allowed comments to be posted. He kept writing articles, provided instant updates on the site and worked from day to night. The site attracted significant traffic and the information contained on the site was used by many major newspapers, including the Toronto Star and Ming Pao.

在2004年5月,PVB将向加国无忧提出$200万元法律索赔,但是赵平波成功地将这起官司变成一个媒体事件,引起了广泛公众的关注。据证词书称,PVB递交起诉书后,赵平波写了一封公开信致全球媒体。在他的五篇文章和公开信后,5000人发起请愿,最终PVB撤回了诉讼。
In May 2004, PVB filed a $2 million claim against 51.ca and Pingbo successfully turned the lawsuit into a media event which attracted public attention. According to the affidavit, after being served with a statement of claim, he wrote an open letter to the global media. In the wake of his 5 articles and the open letter, 5000 people petitioned and PVB retracted the lawsuit.

加国无忧网站的点击率为此激增。至 2004年底,网站的广告月收入增至1万元,黄页月销售额达$4000元。2004年1月,兄弟俩达成口头协议,赵平波从广告销售总额中提取20%佣金,从黄页广告收入中提取60%佣金。
Again, 51.ca traffic dramatically increased and the monthly advertising income jumped to $10,000 by the end of 2004, with Yellow Pages monthly sales reaching $4000. And a Jan.2004 oral agreement between the brothers had Pingbo make 20% of general advertising and 60% of Yellow Pages sales.

据证词称,2005年中,赵平原同意将赵平波的销售佣金从普通广告收入的20%提高到25%,以作为他辛勤工作的奖励。但是在2006年,由于公司增聘了人手,赵平波的佣金又降至20%。
In mid-2005, Pingyuan agreed to reward Pingbo’s hard work by raising his sales commission from 20% of general advertising to 25%. However, in 2006, Pingbo’s commission dropped back to 20% due to new hires to the company, according to the affidavit.

赵平波的不满
Pingbo dissatisfied

据证词称,2005年起,经济上的某些纠纷开始令两兄弟关系紧张。赵平波要求公司为其妻子的工作支付工资,但是被赵平原拒绝;公司的办公室设立在赵平波的家中,但是没有向其支付租金;赵平原自己把持了所有谷歌广告收入,尽管有协议要求所有的广告销售都需要通过赵平波。
In 2005, issues on the financial front started to create tensions between the brothers. According to the affidavit, Pingyuan turned down Pingbo’s request to pay for his wife’s work for 51.ca; Pingbo didn’t get to collect the rent of the office that was set up at his home; Pingyuan kept all Google advertising income to himself, despite an agreement requiring all advertising sales go through Pingbo.

同时,加国无忧的收入迅猛增长。至2010年,公司每月的可分配收入已经高达$116,400元。自2006年经与其父商讨后,赵平波和赵平原一直是以2:3的比例分享利润,但赵平原一直将一笔占公司总收入1/6的的缓冲现金控制在公司账户中,而赵平波没有拿到其中属于他的份额。2010年这笔缓冲现金已达到$641,000元。
Revenue went up so quickly for the company that by 2010, the monthly distributable income reached as high as $116,400. While the fund had been shared between Pingyuan and Pingbo based on a 2:3 ratio since 2006 -- an agreement reached after discussion with their father, a cash “buffer” ,equivalent to 1/6 of the company’s revenue that reached $641,000 in 2010 had been kept in the company’s account by Pingyuan, from which Pingbo did not get his share.

证词书称,2009年1月,赵平原创建了“219”公司以取代51.ca.Inc。当时,双方都是“219”的董事,并有签署公司支票权。自此,加国无忧的大部分收入以及缓冲现金都被转到“219”的账户中。
In Jan. 2009, Pingyuan created a new company “219” to replace 51.ca Inc., and both brothers were directors and signing officers for the bank account. Since then, most of the income from 51.ca, along with the cash buffer were transferred to the “219” account, according to the affidavit.

由于双方矛盾未能得到解决,兄弟二人之间的紧张关系持续升级。在2010年8月,赵平原取消了赵平波对加国无忧以及“219”账户的签字权。
As conflicts were not adequately addressed, tension continued to escalate. In Aug. 2010 Pingyuan cancelled Pingbo’s signing authority for 51.ca and the “219” account.

在文件中所附的一份2010年8月25日的电子邮件中,赵平原通知其兄不再拥有签发这两家公司账户支票的权利,邮件中称,“不论将来我们之间的纠纷将来如何解决,最终都需要这样处理,这不过是迟早的事情。”
In an Aug. 25, 2010 email attached in the document, Pingyuan notified his brother that he no longer had the authority to issue checks for the two companies under his name, stating that “no matter how our dispute will be resolved in future, it will end up with the same resolution, and it is just a matter of time.”

赵平原在邮件中还写道:“我再次建议你,先咨询律师,真正搞清楚你的想法是否有道理后,再做其他事情。否则,你可能会承担你难以承受的后果,到时候后悔就晚了。”
“I, again, advise you to consult a lawyer and make sure your plans are reasonable before taking any actions. Otherwise, you would suffer the regrettable consequences,” wrote Pingyuan in the email.

矛盾升级
Tension soaring

赵平波的证词称,2010年8月,赵平波在一个中文网站发出公开信,公开了兄弟二人之间的内部矛盾。由于这封公开信,兄弟俩的矛盾进一步升级 。
In Aug. 2010, Pingbo wrote an open letter disclosing the internal conflict between the brothers and posted it on a Chinese website. The brothers’ tension has escalated further resulting from the letter, according to the affidavit.

赵平原终止了赵平波的工作,并阻止他登录管理员账户。10月份的一个特殊会议准备授予赵平原唯一的支票签署权,并指定赵平原为公司唯一董事长。赵平波没有拿到“219”的任何股份。赵平波逾$20万元服务成本无法报销。尽管赵平波以股东身份反对,赵平原还是利用公司资源推出一份报纸。
Pingyuan terminated Pingbo’s service and blocked his access to 51.ca’s administrative account; An Oct. special meeting intended to assign Pingyuan sole signing authority for “219” and to elect Pingyuan as the sole director of the company; No “219” shares had been issued to Pingbo; Pingbo’ s over $200,000 business costs were not paid. Despite the objection of Pingbo as a shareholder, Pingyuan launched a newspaper using the company’s funds and resources, the affidavit claims.

赵平波在法庭文件中称:“Paul(平原)将我排除在公司事务外对我不公……完全不顾并损害我的利益,并且不公平地获取公司资产,并将其用于自身目的。”
“Paul (Pingyuan) unfairly excluded me from the affairs of that corporation… totally disregarding and prejudicing my interests, and unfairly took the company’s assets and used them for his own purposes,” claimed Pingbo in the affidavit.

法官在2011年12月份颁布命令,要求赵平原在2012年一月中旬前对该申请作出回应。
A judge’s order in Dec. 2011 required that Pingyuan respond to the application by mid-January, 2012.

以上所有指控尚未得到法庭证实。
All allegations and claims above have not been proven in court.
 
想听听赵平原的故事, 一定不一样。
从古到今, 兄弟艰苦创业, 发财分赃不均的事太多了。 想制造舆论帮助解决家务事?但是家丑不可外扬, 平波兄这次幼稚了。

同意,悄悄的解决,你们就没有共同的朋友吗?

干脆撤出来一了百了,都比这么晒好!
 
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