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[saga]

新的柴油机噪音小了很多，油路冬天有加热的设备，缺点就是价格啦！如果和汽油机一样的价格，一定是和好选择！

这种加热装置有点类似于火花塞,每个缸里有一个,冬天可以预热气缸. 重点来了.你可能不知道这个小东西有多贵,平均一个的维修费用是200元以上.火花塞才1,20一个.

 

[saga]

加柴油的地方确实偏少，但是柴油车本身的行驶里程也要比汽油车至少多出一倍吧，不知这样是否能抵消掉加油站少

跑得远和油站少没有什么关系.

当你去到一个你不熟悉的地方,这时快没有油了, 你再想找柴油站你就会知道什么滋味了. 我曾经路过8个油站,开了15分钟才找到一个有柴油的.此时油表灯已经亮了5分钟了.

 

[broken_cougar99]

总比柴油在汽油车里好啊。。。。

It's very hard to pump Diesel into gasoline operated vehicle. As mentioned earlier by "jagar", the Diesel nozzle is much bigger that gas. You won't be able to put the nozzle in.

 

[broken_cougar99]

我之前听说有人把汽油加到了柴油车里头了，这得花多少钱才能洗干净油路啊.........

If you have pumped gas into Diesel operated vehicle, as long as you don't start the car, it's not expensive to fix. Maybe $100 to $150(easy fix. the tech just have to hook your car to a machine and suck out the gas.). If you have already started the car, and the car had died, couple hundred will fix you up.

 

[broken_cougar99]

这种加热装置有点类似于火花塞,每个缸里有一个,冬天可以预热气缸. 重点来了.你可能不知道这个小东西有多贵,平均一个的维修费用是200元以上.火花塞才1,20一个.

Due to the physical properties of diesel (no spark ignition, ignited by heat due to compression), glow plugs are used in diesel cars. A glow plug cost about $30 to $40 dollars. Comparing to spark plugs which is $10/each, glow plugs are much more expensive. However, you do not need to change your glow plugs as often as spark plugs. Most gasoline vehicle requires spark plug replacement every 32000km to 64000km. For glow plugs, it could last 100000 or more(there is no service interval for them, the only time to replace is when they fail - common glow plugs failing symptoms is hard to start in cold).

Note, if someone has charged you for $200 to replace 1 glow plug, you have been ripped off. Take VW's TDI golf or TDI Jetta, replacing 4 glow plugs cost about $300 to $400.

 

[broken_cougar99]

有很多优点,但lz希望知道缺点,如下
坏了修起来比较麻烦,人工比较贵(只有柴油技师能修,他们的人工比普通技师贵)

Assuming you have a VW, and will be repairing you VW diesel vehicle at a VW Dealership. The labor rate is not gonna change no matter gasoline or diesel engine.

 

[broken_cougar99]

跑得远和油站少没有什么关系.

当你去到一个你不熟悉的地方,这时快没有油了, 你再想找柴油站你就会知道什么滋味了. 我曾经路过8个油站,开了15分钟才找到一个有柴油的.此时油表灯已经亮了5分钟了.

Most major fuel station(shell, petro-canada, esso etc) will carry diesel. You must be in really bad luck to miss all the diesel station. Personally, I have never been into that kind of situation.

I used to have a TDI golf, and after filling up the Tank, I could go to Toronto and come back with 1/4 tank of fuel remain.

 

[HappyNewYear]

Got X5 35diesel

One tank 85L can go a round trip from Ottawa to Toronto and still have some left. It is very good on Fuel consumption (7.6L/100KM). And very strong torque (425 @ 1,750). The engine sound (not noise )let driver really feel the power... Just love it

Compared to a gas engine, the diesel version is really worth of extra dollars.

 

[就是爱喝开水]

噪音大最受不了。就算是奔驰的柴油也受不了

奔驰的柴油车真的很吵，隔音好差的。试开了一下，无语的离开了。

 

[就是爱喝开水]

能问一下是啥牌子的么？
我家附近有个小的SHELL和一个PETROL CANADA, 可以肯定的是那家SHELL不能加柴油

就是路顺买的那种。

 

[saga]

Due to the physical properties of diesel (no spark ignition, ignited by heat due to compression), glow plugs are used in diesel cars. A glow plug cost about $30 to $40 dollars. Comparing to spark plugs which is $10/each, glow plugs are much more expensive. However, you do not need to change your glow plugs as often as spark plugs. Most gasoline vehicle requires spark plug replacement every 32000km to 64000km. For glow plugs, it could last 100000 or more(there is no service interval for them, the only time to replace is when they fail - common glow plugs failing symptoms is hard to start in cold).

Note, if someone has charged you for $200 to replace 1 glow plug, you have been ripped off. Take VW's TDI golf or TDI Jetta, replacing 4 glow plugs cost about $300 to $400.

At MYERS dealership.

the reason your glow plug is less expensive is because your car has the small engine. The one I drive the plug itself is about $80 before tax at the dealer.

and for the labor at MYERS, the diesel tech is about 20$ extra per hour comparing to the regular tech which is about 90-100/h.

By the way, dealer will always rip people off for sure.

 

[saga]

Most major fuel station(shell, petro-canada, esso etc) will carry diesel. You must be in really bad luck to miss all the diesel station. Personally, I have never been into that kind of situation.

I used to have a TDI golf, and after filling up the Tank, I could go to Toronto and come back with 1/4 tank of fuel remain.

There are A LOT esso and petro gas stations DOESN'T have the diesel. The situation got worse when you are close to the downtown area.

For the long distance driving, MOST of the stations near the highway DOES have diesel. It is much easy to get the diesel on 401 since every service station has diesel.

 

[月下独酌]

你们说的glowplug只是热车用的，点着了之后的Diesel车不需要火花塞，top dead center的时候喷油直接就爆了。

 

[broken_cougar99]

At MYERS dealership.

the reason your glow plug is less expensive is because your car has the small engine. The one I drive the plug itself is about $80 before tax at the dealer.

and for the labor at MYERS, the diesel tech is about 20$ extra per hour comparing to the regular tech which is about 90-100/h.

By the way, dealer will always rip people off for sure.

Since you have mentioned Myers VW, I will assume you have a VW. VW offers couple diesel vehicles which are TDI golf, TDI Jetta, TDI Passat and TDI Tourage(in Canada).

The glow plugs for TDI golf, TDI Jetta, TDI Passat are same price(same part #). At VW dealership, the retail cost is less than $15/each.The glow plugs for TDI Tourage is less than $40/each. I have no idea where you get the price of $80/each for glow plug for VW.

The other thing that you have mentioned is the labor rate at Myers. I personally don't know about Myer's labor rate, but 2 other VW dealership in Ottawa will not charge you extra labor for the difference of engine(as a matter of fact, I work for one of them).

The last thing you mentioned is "dealership will always rip people off". Most dealership that I have dealt with use a industry guide line(mitchell on demand) for labor that they charge - which means, if mitchell on demand quote the Job for 2 hours, that's what they will quote you. If you have been ripped off by some dealership, I can only fell sorry for you.

The other thing you should know that VW have launched a recall and warranty extension for Glow plugs for MK4 (4th generation golf, Jetta), certain passat and Tourage in the winter of 2010. If you have replaced your glow plugs prior to that, contact VW customer care with receipt, they will gladly refund your money.

There are a lot of reason to go to dealership. One of them is you never know whether your car still have warranty or not. The manufacture will release new warranty extensions and recall at times, at your local garage, they won't have that kind of info(even if they have, they can't repair it under warranty, they will charge you instead). For example, VW has release warranty extension for Glow plugs as I mentioned earlier, they also release warranty extension for Camshaft (cost about $2000 to $3000 for retail) for certain BPY engine (2.0 turbo FSI engine) due to camshaft follower and high pressure pump failure.

 

[broken_cougar99]

你们说的glowplug只是热车用的，点着了之后的Diesel车不需要火花塞，top dead center的时候喷油直接就爆了。

You are almost right, except, in a diesel engine, the fuel injection happens at about top of compression stoke - not top yet, but very close.

The other things is TDC is not the best term to use due to, in 4 cycle engine, there will be 2 times TDC - Compression stroke and Exhaust stroke.