灾难----从走进MINTO售房中心那一刻降临

我也同意。特别当时有人提议去举牌抗议,媒体到处发放,这些原来都是可以是律师和minto交涉的筹码,全给乱搅和了。minto肯定有不对的地方,我们也要吸取教训,下次对付起来不能随便 “一叫二哭三上吊”

同情LZ的遭遇,悲痛她现在的处境,愤怒 明偷 的卑鄙。

其实CFC大部分回帖出招的人出发点都是好,但人多嘴杂,且都是业余人士,方法不一定好。本人也属于业余人士,提不出好的建议,但我知道有一点很重要,既然身在北美,凡是可能要从北美的角度处理问题较好。

到现在的境地,最重要的是要告知世人 明偷 的罪孽行径,这也是对 LZ 道义上的支持。如果需要经济上的支持,请以前出过头的人组织一下。个人虽只能表微薄之力,但众人拾柴火焰高,希望能帮 LZ 度过难关。
 
我觉得举牌抗议什么的都不妥,一来你没精力,二来事情进入了死局,闹大了人家肯定不会松口了
 
如果没有别的办法,现在倒是可以举牌抗议。。。
 
我觉得举牌抗议什么的都不妥,一来你没精力,二来事情进入了死局,闹大了人家肯定不会松口了

不是不可能松口,现在的问题就是上层根本就不知道真相。
 
CBC电视台有个专栏节目叫Market Place.

这个节目就像国内的打假曝光节目。
我强烈建议受害人和这个节目组联系联系。
让这种损害消费者的无耻行经在全国曝一下光。
我相信一但这个节目的主创人员有兴趣的话,
他们会帮助受害人讨个公道的
 
我就是买的minto的avalon新房,所以从一开始就比较关注楼主这事情的进展。

当初我是比较反对把事情闹大的,其实在我看来拿一万的折扣换个房也还行,主要不用搭进去太多的精力。可是我记得当时网上不少网友比我更有正义感,讲究睚眦必纠,主张要minto退3万现金。我个人当时的估计minto不会是从上到下和着伙来坑楼主,一定是下面的人犯错了,所以提出一万的折扣换个房来息事宁人。要想让这个大怪兽吐出来3万纯现金然后你拍屁股走人,可能性不大。好像当时也是买的minto的房的阿土伯也是这个观点,可惜当时网上大部分人眼里揉不得沙子,讲究宁折不弯,不能退让,要把事情搞大搞严重。现在回过头来看,那些热血的网友确实是真心想帮忙,大家在网上同仇敌忾,营造出一种不达目的誓不罢休的气氛,可到头来到底是帮了楼主还是在把她往火坑里推?我们应该反思一下自己在网上的言行是真的帮了人家还是干扰了别人的思考,毕竟除了当事人其他人都是动动嘴而已。

回过头来再说说楼主的事情。现在既然已经是最坏的结果了,我觉得倒不妨闹一闹,报纸电视如果有可能搞得越大越好。avalon里面住的政府工作人员多,到市中心政府部门比较集中的地方举牌应该也不错。如果考虑要打官司的话,还是找专业人员评估一下胜算和开销。

avalon这个社区minto的已经开发完毕了,show room也都已经卖了,销售中心好像也撤了,只有minto客服minto care的办公室还在,现在再来avalon闹应该效果不怎么样。
 
Based on your story, I think your lawyer should take lots of responsibility of voiding the contract at your end. Maybe you should sue your lawyer Stephen Guest for compensation. Because of him, you can not finish signing the full contract on the closing day, which later becomes the primary reason that Minto refuses returning your deposit. You lawyer should be well aware of the consequence he caused intentionally or not. Did he warn you about what will happen if you don't sign the full contract on the closing day? For him or his assistant, leaving early is not an excuse and he should be responsible for it. If he didn't tell you the consequence, he should be under investigation for his legal malpractice.

I think everyone should be cautious when signing contract with the builder, always keep photo copies of signed contract. When feeling something not right, back off quickly.

As for Minto, I hope they will give back your full deposit eventually. They can make mistake of the house model, and they tried to correct or made an alternative offer, but it was in your hand whether you wanted to accept. However if they don't sell the house to you, they should NOT keep your hard earned money. If not, they will lose many of their potential clients and business.

Please take care yourself and your health is precious.

Learning to move on and not let other people's fault ruin your life.

Keep fighting smartly and strategically!

Good luck on getting back your full deposit!
 
我就是买的minto的avalon新房,所以从一开始就比较关注楼主这事情的进展。

当初我是比较反对把事情闹大的,其实在我看来拿一万的折扣换个房也还行,主要不用搭进去太多的精力。可是我记得当时网上不少网友比我更有正义感,讲究睚眦必纠,主张要minto退3万现金。我个人当时的估计minto不会是从上到下和着伙来坑楼主,一定是下面的人犯错了,所以提出一万的折扣换个房来息事宁人。要想让这个大怪兽吐出来3万纯现金然后你拍屁股走人,可能性不大。好像当时也是买的minto的房的阿土伯也是这个观点,可惜当时网上大部分人眼里揉不得沙子,讲究宁折不弯,不能退让,要把事情搞大搞严重。现在回过头来看,那些热血的网友确实是真心想帮忙,大家在网上同仇敌忾,营造出一种不达目的誓不罢休的气氛,可到头来到底是帮了楼主还是在把她往火坑里推?我们应该反思一下自己在网上的言行是真的帮了人家还是干扰了别人的思考,毕竟除了当事人其他人都是动动嘴而已。

回过头来再说说楼主的事情。现在既然已经是最坏的结果了,我觉得倒不妨闹一闹,报纸电视如果有可能搞得越大越好。avalon里面住的政府工作人员多,到市中心政府部门比较集中的地方举牌应该也不错。如果考虑要打官司的话,还是找专业人员评估一下胜算和开销。

avalon这个社区minto的已经开发完毕了,show room也都已经卖了,销售中心好像也撤了,只有minto客服minto care的办公室还在,现在再来avalon闹应该效果不怎么样。

I agree with you :cool::cool:
 
If it is for me, I will just take the $10000, close the deal in time and moving into the house for a year or so, once moved into the house, pay the down payment to buy another lot/house/floor plan you wanted, sale the house you don't like and could make some $, and you could also increased value in the house you want since you bought it pre-construction.
Win-Win situation.
 
我完全同意tribeca说的要让Minto意识到如果此事不妥善解决“they will lose many of their potential clients and business”,那就是我们中国同胞。所以个人认为举牌抗议不是解决问题的办法,关键是让Minto上下都意识到他们拿了你的几万块钱, 但失去的是中国人的强大购房市场。 是否可以请律师起草一封抗议书,号召支持者签名后提交Minto总部。
 
file a complaint to a law society

There is a form that you can fill in to file a complaint and ask for an invetigation and compensation from Upper Canada law society.
Once a complaint is filed, you should hear a justice.
Please click here to download a form:

http://www.lsuc.on.ca/with.aspx?id=644
 
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