升职不成，反丢现职：前新华社记者成为加拿大政府雇员后，被加拿大政府解职

[9981]

I don't think the Federal Court's ruling shall be understood as an endorsement of the CSIS decision. It was simply about whether Ms. Zhang had been treated unfairly by the federal government in her search for another government job, after her "Top Secret" clearance denied by CSIS and Secret clearance removed by PCO. The Court found no wrong doings of the government, that's it.

It is a big stretch to say 加拿大政府认定张女士对加拿大国家安全是个威胁. Based on what's been published, CSIS never stated it this way. It only questioned her royalty to Canada, hence declined to grant her the TOP SECRET clearance.

Agreed, I just read the original article on national post and I have the same understanding. I do think the chinese translation is misleading, or at least failing to give a clear picture.

She can still apply for government job. Plus, from her profile, she already moved on and established her consulting business. So best wishes to her.

 

[ccc]

I don't think the Federal Court's ruling shall be understood as an endorsement of the CSIS decision. It was simply about whether Ms. Zhang had been treated unfairly by the federal government in her search for another government job, after her "Top Secret" clearance denied by CSIS and Secret clearance removed by PCO. The Court found no wrong doings of the government, that's it.

It is a big stretch to say 加拿大政府认定张女士对加拿大国家安全是个威胁. Based on what's been published, CSIS never stated it this way. It only questioned her royalty to Canada, hence declined to grant her the TOP SECRET clearance.

Agreed.

 

[Anakin]

请避免评论当事人本人。

让我评论的话，我会说：她当初接受枢密院的工作是最最愚蠢的。她能够进去，是加拿大安全部门最最大的失职。

安全检查的原则应该是宁可错杀一万也绝对不能放过一个。一个中国大陆移民，即便没有任何危害加国国家安全的嫌疑，能够进加拿大枢密院，也是不可思议的。

...这个看法我支持.第一她不该去碰这样的位子,太敏感. 第二: 按年份理论上是拿不到Secret LEVEL的.只能说有人为因素在里面.那么这个时候摆桌面上来讨论JD的可能性的时候...当初那些人为因素就是有,也不敢站出来帮她再说一次了...

现在看只能是说怀疑她而已,能做实她的证据没有....不然早就抓了...

 

[百发百中]

Happy to see people viewing it objectively.

 

[cornerstone]

别尽扯些没用的.

有证据就拿上来, 没证据就不要像某些人一张嘴就是"几万中国间谍": 你这不是把所有在外面的中国人给害了么?! 当然, 那"几万中国间谍"除外, 就是TMD不知道是谁?连告密的人也不说"他们"是谁!:flaming:

CSIS有全套的证据，政府把张女士开除了；法院看了CSIS的证据，支持了政府的决定。你要证据，请找CSIS。

National Post 的报道： Suspected Chinese spy loses bid to rejoin civil service

别尽扯些没用的. 你如果不服气，可以去站街。CSIS，政府，法院，National Post，你选哪个？我估计，加拿大政府不会象咱党妈，用冲锋枪扫射。

 

[ZhiZuChangLe]

你是在暗示常乐主席是海燕吗?

我们有海燕那么老吗？真是的！

 

[dvd888]

较个劲，你给举几个你自己亲身经历过的，或直接朋友经历过的这种汇报事情。尤其是“收集学生言论，像组织汇报”的。最好有当事人姓名。否则，ＣＦＣ上应该来自比较有影响的大学网友不在少数，你的声誉可是大打折扣。
我的大学也是２１１第一批，反正没听说过这样的事情。

这个有那么好笑吗:blink:
稍微有点影响力的大学，学生里有这种象组织汇报同学动态的，算新闻吗:blink:

 

[333]

CSIS有全套的证据，政府把张女士开除了；法院看了CSIS的证据，支持了政府的决定。你要证据，请找CSIS.

有没有搞错?! 我要的是你这句话的证据:

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老共现在的间谍活动，走的是广撒网的群众路线。

你这句话是在映射老百姓, 这就是为什么我要说: 有证据就拿上来, 没证据就不要像某些人一张嘴就是"几万中国间谍": 你这不是把所有在外面的中国人给害了么?! 当然, 那"几万中国间谍"除外, 就是TMD不知道是谁?连告密的人也不说"他们"是谁!

National Post 的报道： Suspected Chinese spy loses bid to rejoin civil service

至于本案,我没什么好评论的,最多我只能说她倒霉:干嘛去接安全级别那么高的职位...

别尽扯些没用的. 你如果不服气，可以去站街。CSIS，政府，法院，National Post，你选哪个？我估计，加拿大政府不会象咱党妈，用冲锋枪扫射。

听清楚:那是你党妈, 你愿意认共产党做你妈, 那是你的事, 不要把别人扯进来.

 

[may16]

法院的裁决没什么不妥 ，合理合法，很有分寸。倒个个，放在中国，她的结局就不仅是这样了。

以前做喉舌为党收集情报那是你的职责。现在成了加拿大公民，又在敏感部门，再跟中国使馆发生不正常的联系，当然值得怀疑。行啦，别叫屈啦。

 

[悠哉客]

法院的裁决没什么不妥 ，合理合法，很有分寸。倒个个，放在中国，她的结局就不仅是这样了。

以前做喉舌为党收集情报那是你的职责。现在成了加拿大公民，又在敏感部门，再跟中国使馆发生不正常的联系，当然值得怀疑。行啦，别叫屈啦。

您不要删这个帖哦，我已经引用下来了。

您也不要抡一砖就跑啊，看看老闲说您的：

扔一板砖就想跑？

都什么人啊！

 

[SuanNiHen]

跟中领馆还热，又要往ＴＯＰ　ＳＥＣＲＥＴ部门钻，这不是自挖坑往里跳吗？！

 

[胡岩宇]

Court ruling is just a court ruling. People either obey it or appeal it . Even up to High court of Canada, it doesn't mean 100% always correct. However, it certainly reduces incorrect chances. I saw a lot of people came out of court and said justice wasn't served.

Worked for Xinghua News Agency, a state-running media, is widely regarded a spy in West, What about working for CBC? which is also a state-running media. Are they regarded spy or suspected spy in China? I don't know. If so, it was funny to see Peter Mansbridge interviewed Canadian Spy boss Richard Fadden and talked about China spy in Canada. A spy or suspected spy talked to his boss about other country's spy in Canadan on a suspected spy agency's television channel.

 

[xilihutu]

Court ruling is just a court ruling. People either obey it or appeal it . Even up to High court of Canada, it doesn't mean 100% always correct. However, it certainly reduces incorrect chances. I saw a lot of people came out of court and said justice wasn't served.

Worked for Xinghua News Agency, a state-running media, is widely regarded a spy in West, What about working for CBC? which is also a state-running media. Are they regarded spy or suspected spy in China? I don't know. If so, it was funny to see Peter Mansbridge interviewed Canadian Spy boss Richard Fadden and talked about China spy in Canada. A spy or suspected spy talked to his boss about other country's spy in Canadan on a suspected spy agency's television channel.

Human being can't be 100% always correct. However, court is one of the best ways to reduce incorrect chances.

Talking about spy or suspected spy in CBC or in Xinghua News Agency, we can't ignore the difference between the two media agencies. Who owns the media?

 

[ccc]

很多人看问题仍停留在70年代或以前的水平上。

 

[xilihutu]

很多人看问题仍停留在70年代或以前的水平上。

How abou you, my friend? You mean you 看问题停留在10年代或the after 的水平上?