$100 for 2 demerit points???

[第N个马甲]

今天上法庭，在courtroom里面听别人的trial...等了一个小时之后，被一个做wheelchair的中年男人叫到一个小room，他问了我事情的经过。。。然后我问他是谁，他说他是prosecutor.

anyway, 长话短说，他说我的conviction is 要减2分的，但他可以把我的变成是bylaw - obstruction of traffic...but I have to plea guilty to that and my fine is increased from $80 to $180...he said that way is like nothing has happened, like I only pay for parking ticket.

so, anyway, I had no confident that I will win in the trial...so I just chose to trust him and plea guilty to the new charge.

my question is: am I right to trust him? am I really getting a good deal??? if so, then how come my fine is increased?


:blink::blink:

nobody has ever told me I am going to be deducted any point. but my original charge was: Contrary to: HTA of Ontario, 142(1)
so is that mean I am going to be deducted point?

I supposed 2 points is worthed 100 dollar ?

 

[viper99]

没看懂你在讲什么
问题是，你原来的是啥，也许你以前讲过，但你不能指望群众们都记得啊

 

[timmy]

都是开车犯规，罚款价钱一定代表了严重程度。
从$80到$180，岂不是从轻罪变成重罪？如果是俺，就坚决不同意。除非他们把票撕了，让你捐款，那么可以接受。

 

[第N个马甲]

没看懂你在讲什么
问题是，你原来的是啥，也许你以前讲过，但你不能指望群众们都记得啊

my original charge: Turn not in saftey-> HTA of Ontario->section: 142(1)->$85
（2 demerit point for that? really?)

Now: bylaw->obstruction of traffic->$180


am I getting a good deal? am I right by pleading guilty to the new charge and not going to the trial of the old charge?

 

[第N个马甲]

都是开车犯规，罚款价钱一定代表了严重程度。
从$80到$180，岂不是从轻罪变成重罪？如果是俺，就坚决不同意。除非他们把票撕了，让你捐款，那么可以接受。

prosecutor 没有那么恶毒吧？

有谁可以知道我是被trick了，还是getting a good deal???

 

[ccc]

我想，LZ是在说一个是按CITY BY－LAW的规定来处理，一个是按安省高速公路交通法规(HTA of Ontario)来处理，罚款标准不一样。

我的理解是这个CITY BY－LAW不会扣点。

 

[第N个马甲]

我想，LZ是在说一个是按CITY BY－LAW的规定来处理，一个是按安省高速公路交通法规(HTA of Ontario)来处理，罚款标准不一样。

我的理解是这个CITY BY－LAW不会扣点。

是滴，他说不会扣点

 

[viper99]

我一点也不认为你getting a good deal
从来都是罪轻的，减点的，附带产品就是罚款减少

你的Case是我头一次听说，减点，但是要多交100刀的
也算我这么多年在加拿大。。。咋说尼， 又长见识了

换了我，无论你说出多大的天来，要我多交一倍多的钱，就免谈

 

[9981]

只要不扣点， 一定比你原来的结果好。

至于是不是最佳deal, 要看你是不是有足够证据让法官免你的点和钱

 

[第N个马甲]

我一点也不认为你getting a good deal
从来都是罪轻的，减点的，附带产品就是罚款减少

你的Case是我头一次听说，减点，但是要多交100刀的
也算我这么多年在加拿大。。。咋说尼， 又长见识了

换了我，无论你说出多大的天来，要我多交一倍多的钱，就免谈

扣点后，保险的钱会increase吧:blink:

 

[viper99]

是滴，他说不会扣点

啥点不点的
我告诉你个实例，是我自己的
如果你Renew保险不换保险公司时，你那些点保险公司也不会去查，没人会主动告诉保险公司
可是，如果你想换家保险公司，你所有被罚款的，保险公司都能看到，我以前上庭打掉的Speeding点（少交罚款了），号称不计点的，保险公司全部打印出来一个List上，全部影响你保险Rate

 

[9981]

这是你被指控的错么？

Section 142(1) of the HTA reads:

The driver or operator of a vehicle upon a highway before turning to the left or right at any intersection or into a private road or driveway or from one lane for traffic to another lane for traffic or to leave the roadway shall first see that the movement can be made in safety, and if the operation of any other vehicle may be affected by the movement shall give a signal plainly visible to the driver or operator of the other vehicle of the intention to make the movement.

 

[第N个马甲]

这是你被指控的错么？

Section 142(1) of the HTA reads:

The driver or operator of a vehicle upon a highway before turning to the left or right at any intersection or into a private road or driveway or from one lane for traffic to another lane for traffic or to leave the roadway shall first see that the movement can be made in safety, and if the operation of any other vehicle may be affected by the movement shall give a signal plainly visible to the driver or operator of the other vehicle of the intention to make the movement.

think so

 

[第N个马甲]

啥点不点的
我告诉你个实例，是我自己的
如果你Renew保险不换保险公司时，你那些点保险公司也不会去查，没人会主动告诉保险公司
可是，如果你想换家保险公司，你所有被罚款的，保险公司都能看到，我以前上庭打掉的Speeding点（少交罚款了），号称不计点的，保险公司全部打印出来一个List上，全部影响你保险Rate

so the prosecutor tricked me?

 

[9981]

我觉得挺好， 因为如果是趴车一类的票， 即使有记录，不影响车险