方肘子对中医一无所知,对西医也同样一无所知。其反中医妖魔化中医行为实际是反人类

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方肘子:“有些药物虽然对治疗疾病有良效,但是由于毒副作用过强,也无法使用或必须慎用。对那些急毒、剧毒药物,靠经验还可能发现,但是对那些毒副作用要较长时间才能表现出来的慢性毒,例如药物导致的癌症、肝病、肾病、心血管疾病,凭经验根本不可能发现,必须靠动物实验、临床试验、流行病调查才能查出来。中医虽然有“是药三分毒”的说法,但是这只是一句废话,对某种药物究竟有什么毒副作用,服用后会对身体器官造成什么样的损害,基本上是一无所知。现代药物在说明书中都会详细说明毒副作用,而我抽查了几种常见中成药,都对毒副作用只字不提,最多在“注意事项”中写一句“孕妇禁用”,给人以为中药对普通人都无毒副作用的印象。”
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方肘子的这一小段话,充满了无知和逻辑矛盾,下面分别来批。
1)“药物导致的癌症、肝病、肾病、心血管疾病,凭经验根本不可能发现,必须靠动物实验、临床试验、流行病调查才能查出来”。

中国中医中药的经典著作,都是许多代中医师的医疗实践和经验的总结,可以说是长期临床试验验证后的科学结论。虽然可能跳过动物实验,直接进行临床试验,但没有经过动物试验直接进行临床试验就不可靠不科学吗? 可见方肘子对医学多么无知,逻辑多么混乱;

2)“中医虽然有“是药三分毒”的说法,但是这只是一句废话,对某种药物究竟有什么毒副作用,服用后会对身体器官造成什么样的损害,基本上是一无所知。”

中医不知道砒霜的毒副作用和服用后会对身体器官造成什么样的损害?你相信吗?事实胜于雄辩,还是看看中药典籍的描述吧:

《开宝本草》:虽云味苦酸,而其气则大热,性有大毒也。酸苦涌泄,故能吐诸疟风痰在胸膈间。太热大毒之物,故不可久服,能伤人也。砒黄既已有毒,见火则毒愈甚,而世人多用砒霜以治疟,不知《内经》云夏伤于暑,秋必痎疟,法当清暑,益气,健脾,是为正治,岂宜用此大热大毒之药。如果元气壮实,有痰者服之,必大吐,虽暂获安,而所损真气实多矣。
《本经逢原》:砒霜疟家常用,入口吐利兼作,吐后大渴,则与绿豆汤饮之。砒性大毒,误食必死。然狂痴之病,又所必需,胜金丹用之无不应者。枯痔散与白矾同用,七日痔枯自落,取热毒之性以枯歹肉也。
《本草衍义》:砒霜,疟家或用,才过剂,则吐泻兼作,须浓研绿豆汁,仍兼冷水饮。
《本草》:谓主诸疟风痰在胸膈,可作吐药,盖以其性之至燥,大能燥痰也。
OMFG,反中医就是反人类,那不用中医就是非人类?连秘密哥都不敢这么说吧?

还有再说一次,医学只分现代医学和传统医学,没有所谓的中医和西医之分,不要人为创造地域对立。

东方和西方都有曾经拥有传统医学,并为各自的古代文明作出过健康上的贡献。现代科技远比古代发达,传统医学不应当固步自封,拒绝现代化,甚至仇视敌视现代科技。
 
说透了。支持。比四边形说得容易让人明白哦。
 
哦,你新来的吧?见惯就不怪了。
善男信女鬼哭狼嚎也不是万圣节才有的事,就是今天凑上节日了,看着比较配搭。:good:
贵圈几件新衣服而已。
 
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OMFG,反中医就是反人类,那不用中医就是非人类?连秘密哥都不敢这么说吧?

还有再说一次,医学只分现代医学和传统医学,没有所谓的中医和西医之分,不要人为创造地域对立。

东方和西方都有曾经拥有传统医学,并为各自的古代文明作出过健康上的贡献。现代科技远比古代发达,传统医学不应当固步自封,拒绝现代化,甚至仇视敌视现代科技。

我认为“医学只分现代医学和传统医学,没有所谓的中医和西医之分” 是错误说法。
正确的说法是:医学从历史上看分现代医学和传统医学;从医学理论和治疗实践上分中医和西医。
当然,你也可以认为我的说法不对。

中医中药是治病救人的,方肘子反对中医中药,就是反人类,这说法没大错。

“现代科技远比古代发达”,这个可以商榷。因为直到现在,人类是否起源于地球还是一个疑问,谁知道“古代科技"曾被毁灭过多少次,曾达到过多么发达的程度?
 
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现代科技远比古代发达!!!!!!! 这是事实
也可以说地球是宇宙中心是事实,地球中心说
甚至可以说宇宙大爆炸是事实,big bang theory
不管怎么说,都可以的。科学发展规律总是否定之否定的过程。
 
哦开,我以前就说过,如果中医是外星人交给老祖宗的,我就承认中医可能比现代医学先进高深
我认为“医学只分现代医学和传统医学,没有所谓的中医和西医之分” 是错误说法。
正确的说法是:医学从历史上看分现代医学和传统医学;从医学理论和治疗实践上分中医和西医。
当然,你也可以认为我的说法不对。

中医中药是治病救人的,方肘子反对中医中药,就是反人类,这说法没大错。

“现代科技远比古代发达”,这个可以商榷。因为直到现在,人类是否起源于地球还是一个疑问,谁知道“古代科技"曾被毁灭过多少次,曾达到过多么发达的程度?
 
方舟子肯定想象不出来在塞外一乡村网站,都有几个人天天月月年年惦记着他。。。他们对方舟子讲过神马话写过神马字可说是如数家珍,比方舟子老婆对方舟子还有了解还有关心。。。真是算是奇葩现象
这是在说老闹子和老向吗?:o
 
科学家发现我们可能并非生活在同一个世界

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11月2日,据国外媒体报道,科学家发现“平行宇宙”可能确实存在,我们其实生活在多个版本的世界中,但这些世界在某些时空中存在相互影响的现象。平行宇宙是个非常奇特的世界,每个事件都有截然相反的版本,在某个世界中恐龙没有灭绝,其仍然统治着地球,或者恐龙在6500万年前“如期灭绝”,但是德军却赢得了二战胜利,而你也可能出生在一个完全不同的国家,从这些信息看,平行宇宙的世界显然非常有趣。来自美国和澳大利亚的研究人员发现,平行宇宙之间可能相互影响,今天的世界也可能是在别的宇宙中出现。

平行宇宙听起来像是科幻小说的情节,科学家发现如果平行宇宙存在,那么可以解决量子力学中一些违背常规的问题,这些疑问困扰了科学家许多年。此前的理论认为,平行宇宙之间不会发生相互联系,是相互独立发展的,但最新的研究发现平行宇宙之间可能存在互动,并相互影响,其作用机制能够用奇异的量子力学进行解释。来自格里菲斯大学和加利福尼亚大学的科学家对平行宇宙的理论进行了研究,发现奇妙的量子力学能够主导平行宇宙之间的联系,也解决了物理学上的一些难题。

量子力学有着怪异的现象,量子现象无法用宏观的理论进行解释,格里菲斯大学物理学教授霍华德·怀斯曼认为自1957年开始,基于量子力学的平行宇宙理论就已经提出,之后科学家发现量子力学的许多现象与我们所认为的宏观事实相违背,违反了一些因果定律,比如著名的多世界理论,该理论认为每次测量结果都会导致宇宙出现无数个“分裂”,并形成无数个可能的结果,这样让许多科学家对量子力学主导的世界无所适从。

休?埃弗雷特是多世界理论的提出者,早期的多世界理论认为一个事件的不同结果存在于不同的平行宇宙中,但每个宇宙之间并不存在相互联系,格里菲斯大学和加利福尼亚大学的科学家再次将这个理论进行了升华,发现平行宇宙之间存在联系。科学家认为宇宙是一个全息图,宇宙中存在九个空间维度和一个时间维度,去年12月,日本研究人员证明数学原理可能解释全息理论,这意味着宇宙的全息性可能是正确的。

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[中文媒体翻译错误太多,还是看原文吧]

'Parallel universes DO exist': Multiple versions of us are living in alternate worlds that interact with each other, theory claims
  • The parallel worlds constantly influence one another, researchers claim
  • This is because, instead of a collapse in which quantum particles 'choose' to occupy one state or another, they in fact occupy both, simultaneously
  • The theory could resolve some of the irregularities in quantum mechanics
  • It states some worlds are almost identical to ours, but most are different
  • Theory may even create possibility of one day testing for these worlds
By ELLIE ZOLFAGHARIFARD FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 16:48 GMT, 31 October 2014 | UPDATED: 01:22 GMT, 1 November 2014

Imagine a world where dinosaurs hadn't become extinct, Germany had won World War II and you were born in an entirely different country.

These worlds could exist today in parallel universes, which constantly interact with each other, according to a group of US and Australian researchers.

It may sound like science fiction, but the new theory could resolve some of the irregularities in quantum mechanics that have baffled scientists for centuries.

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The team proposes that parallel universes really exist, and that they interact. That is, rather than evolving independently, nearby worlds influence one another by a subtle force of repulsion. They show that such an interaction could explain everything that is bizarre about quantum mechanic

The team from Griffiths University and the University of California suggest that rather than evolving independently, nearby worlds influence one another by a subtle force of repulsion.

They claim that such an interaction could explain everything that is bizarre about how particles operate on a microscopic scale.

Quantum mechanics is notoriously difficult to fathom, exhibiting weird phenomena which seem to violate the laws of cause and effect.

'The idea of parallel universes in quantum mechanics has been around since 1957,' said Howard Wiseman, a professor in Physics at Griffith University.

'In the well-known 'Many-Worlds Interpretation'', each universe branches into a bunch of new universes every time a quantum measurement is made.

'All possibilities are therefore realised – in some universes the dinosaur-killing asteroid missed Earth. In others, Australia was colonised by the Portuguese.'

'But critics question the reality of these other universes, since they do not influence our universe at all.

'On this score, our 'Many Interacting Worlds' approach is completely different, as its name implies.'

The Many Worlds theory was first proposed by Hugh Everett, who said that the ability of quantum particles to occupy two states seemingly at once could be explained by both states co-existing in different universes.

Instead of a collapse in which quantum particles 'choose' to occupy one state or another, they in fact occupy both, simultaneously.

IS OUR UNIVERSE A HOLOGRAM? UNIVERSE COULD BE A MERE PROJECTION
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The holographic model suggests gravity in the universe comes from thin, vibrating strings. These strings are holograms of events that take place in a simpler, flatter cosmos

The universe is a hologram and everything you can see - including this article and the device you are reading it on - is a mere projection.

This is according to a controversial model proposed in 1997 by theoretical physicist Juan Maldacena.

Until now the bizarre theory had never been tested, but recent mathematical models suggest that the mind-boggling principle could be true.

According to the theory, gravity in the universe comes from thin, vibrating strings.

These strings are holograms of events that take place in a simpler, flatter cosmos. Professor Maldacena's model suggests that the universe exists in nine dimensions of space, and one of time.

In December, Japanese researchers attempted to tackle this problem by providing mathematical evidence that the holographic principle might be correct.

The holographic principle suggests that, like the security chip on a credit card for example, there is a two-dimensional surface that contains all the information needed to describe a three-dimensional object - which in this case is our universe.

In essence, the principle claims that data containing a description of a volume of space - such as a human or a comet - could be hidden in a region of this flattened, 'real' version of the universe.

In a black hole, for instance, all the objects that ever fall into it would be entirely contained in surface fluctuations. This means that the objects would be stored almost as 'memory' or fragment of data rather than a physical object in existence.



Like Everett, Professor Wiseman and his colleagues propose the universe we experience is just one of a gigantic number of worlds.

They believe some are almost identical to ours, while most are very different.

All of these worlds are equally real, existing continuously through time, and possessing precisely defined properties.

They suggest that quantum phenomena arise from a universal force of repulsion between 'nearby' worlds which tend to make them more dissimilar.

Dr Michael Hall from Griffith's Centre for Quantum Dynamics added that the 'Many-Interacting Worlds' theory may even create the extraordinary possibility of testing for the existence of other worlds.

'The beauty of our approach is that if there is just one world, our theory reduces to Newtonian mechanics, while if there is a gigantic number of worlds it reproduces quantum mechanics,' he says.

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Dr Michael Hall from Griffith's Centre for Quantum Dynamics says the 'Many-Interacting Worlds' theory may even create the extraordinary possibility of testing for the existence of other worlds

'In between it predicts something new that is neither Newton's theory nor quantum theory.

'We also believe that, in providing a new mental picture of quantum effects, it will be useful in planning experiments to test and exploit quantum phenomena.'

'For us at least there is nothing inherently implausible in the idea,' added Professor Wiseman.

'For fans of science fiction it makes those plots involving communication between parallel worlds not quite so far-fetched after all.'


The ability to approximate quantum evolution using a finite number of worlds could have significant ramifications in molecular dynamics, which is important for understanding chemical reactions and the action of drugs.

Professor Bill Poirier, Distinguished Professor of Chemistry at Texas Tech University, has observed: 'These are great ideas, not only conceptually, but also with regard to the new numerical breakthroughs they are almost certain to engender.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...lds-interact-theory-claims.html#ixzz3I13sWk4U
 
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