真狠，比TG狠

[胡说芝]

要挣钱养家，去了你给交煤气水电费？

至于吗？
如果真的5天奏没饭给老婆孩子吃了，另说 （当事人40刀吃饭够了吧）
我理解LZ是在显摆，不是没钱不想去，咱们也就是灌Piao水

 

[urus]

入籍有考试吧
就搞不懂了，选择入加籍了，在享受公民的权利的同时，尽一个公民的基本义务有神马好说的

都懂，都懂，但是具体落到头上，讨论讨论牵扯到的影响而已，不用这么激动吧。

 

[冷笑六声]

请问 @元 芳 何夫人哪里去鸟？为什么不给老何出个注意？

 

[urus]

你觉得呢？党大还是国大？政府大还是公司大？小手指拧得过大脚趾头？

我觉得，按道理的确应该去，这不是义务吗，当初都说清楚的。
可是，要真影响到了工作生活，严重的要是从此被追杀，马的， 谁大也大不过自己的小命啊

 

[uglyducking]

我觉得，按道理的确应该去，这不是义务吗，当初都说清楚的。
可是，要真影响到了工作生活，严重的要是从此被追杀，马的， 谁大也大不过自己的小命啊

恐怖电影看多了，鉴定完毕

 

[苦逼热狗]

我觉得，按道理的确应该去，这不是义务吗，当初都说清楚的。
可是，要真影响到了工作生活，严重的要是从此被追杀，马的， 谁大也大不过自己的小命啊

这些都可以作为借口推出法庭的审判席的
例如公司是leave without pay，老婆孩子还要养，这个月再不上班，我的mortgage就没钱付了。

 

[reine02]

这个陪审团, 真要去了,有啥害处吗?
单位会不会因此而开除你,或者影响performance review？
或者，因此卷入黑社会的追杀？
或者，影响mortgage什么的？

Ontario residents ignoring jury duty

TORONTO - It arrives in the mail, a jury summons that more and more people are choosing to simply ignore.

The cynical wisdom is that juries are made up of people too dumb to avoid them and up until now, the courts have turned a blind eye to this finger at justice.

But after two high profile cases of jury panel no-shows already this year, judges are warning there will be consequences for citizens who refuse to do their civic duty.

"A jury summons is not an invitation," writes Ontario Superior Court Justice Casey Hill in a stern judgment released last week. "Nor is it a mere option to volunteer to be a juror. It cannot simply be ignored. It is a court order with consequences for disobedience."

Retired Justice Dan Ferguson is not holding his breath.

"It happens every day in every courthouse and it has for 20 years," he said in an interview, "and they just ignore it. It's sad."

And truth be told, you can hardly blame people for not rushing to fulfil the privilege of being on a jury -- not when it's akin to slave labour.

For the honour of sitting as a juror in Ontario for weeks on end, you are expected to leave your family and workplace for long hours each day, while being paid absolutely nothing for the first 10 days and only $50 a day for the next 39.

"That's well below the minimum wage, it doesn't even cover child care for the day," argues Paul Burstein, president of the Criminal Lawyers' Association. "We don't even pay for their parking.

"It's not surprising that the modern consequence is that people say to heck with it, I'm not going to show up. I can't afford to show up."

Just last week, almost half of the 600 people ordered to appear for jury duty in the Jordan Manners murder trial didn't bother to report to the Metro Convention Centre.

Justice John McMahon has ordered a report into why 270 potential jurors stayed away. His concern comes on the heels of his Brampton colleague examining the growing problem of Peel Region residents not showing up for potential jury duty. Hill found from September 2010 to January 2011, the fail-to-appear rate of prospective jurors was between 11 and 20%.

The last straw occurred Jan. 19 when a second-degree murder trial had to be delayed when 219 potential jurors were expected at the Brampton courthouse and only 174 turned up. In an unprecedented move, Hill ordered the missing jurors be tracked down and told to appear before him Feb. 17.

Of the shaking dozens who arrived, many had valid excuses, but six did not. Hill said they could have faced contempt of court charges and a fine but he decided to go easy on them because this was the first inquiry of its kind.

"Going forward," the judge warned, "random checks of jury panel member absences can be expected with punishment where warranted."

A Google search of "getting out of jury duty Canada" will display 76,600 different websites offering the best advice to avoid your civic duty. Sit through a jury selection and nearly everyone hesitantly approaches the judge with an excuse: vacation plans, child care issues, hearing problems but most common of all, financial hardship.

The result, warns the retired Superior Court judge, is that juries are increasingly not representative at all, but instead are made up of retirees, the unemployed and those financially able to be away from their jobs.

"It's a skewed system," complains Ferguson, who presided in Whitby.

But he also understands why people are reluctant to serve. In an article he wrote shortly after retiring two years ago, Ferguson "let off steam" by comparing jury duty to serving in a work camp for a dictatorship because of the "pittance" jurors are paid.

"Yes, trial by jury is a fundamental part of our justice system," he wrote. "But it should not be operated in a way that punishes the jurors."

He called on the government to increase jury compensation, but wasn't surprised that request fell on deaf ears.

"Nothing will happen," he said.

Making finding a jury of your peers increasingly a moot point.

michele.mandel@sunmedia.ca

 

[老闹子]

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好奇，如果现在中国的法庭真有陪审团制度，一般人是要躲避呢，还是争着去？比如李天一的案件，比如夏俊峰的案件？

参加李天一的案件陪审团，说不定是个发财的机会呢。梦妈妈肯花钱吧。

 

[ccc]

在问卷中，我会答：坚决支持公诉人，惩罚罪犯，宁可错杀一万也不放过一个坏人。

 

[urus]

Ontario residents ignoring jury duty

"It's a skewed system," complains Ferguson, who presided in Whitby.

But he also understands why people are reluctant to serve. In an article he wrote shortly after retiring two years ago, Ferguson "let off steam" by comparing jury duty to serving in a work camp for a dictatorship because of the "pittance" jurors are paid.

"Yes, trial by jury is a fundamental part of our justice system," he wrote. "But it should not be operated in a way that punishes the jurors."

michele.mandel@sunmedia.ca

好长阿，还都是英文，你给个简介吧。谢le

 

[reine02]

我觉得，按道理的确应该去，这不是义务吗，当初都说清楚的。
可是，要真影响到了工作生活，严重的要是从此被追杀，马的， 谁大也大不过自己的小命啊

"Jury trials are taking a lot longer to litigate … than they did a generation ago," Stribopulos said. "And that ties back to the remuneration question, because if you're asking people to give up a week of work, that's one thing, but if you're asking them to give up three months or four months, that becomes rather burdensome, and very few people can afford to do that."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/jury-duty-unfair-burden-or-civic-obligation-1.994514

 

[reine02]

还有，在法庭做陪审员期间，不能打电话，不能上网，不能论坛发帖是吧？

 

[urus]

"Jury trials are taking a lot longer to litigate … than they did a generation ago," Stribopulos said. "And that ties back to the remuneration question, because if you're asking people to give up a week of work, that's one thing, but if you're asking them to give up three months or four months, that becomes rather burdensome, and very few people can afford to do that."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/jury-duty-unfair-burden-or-civic-obligation-1.994514

就是阿，这么搞谁也受不了阿

 

[urus]

还有，在法庭做陪审员期间，不能打电话，不能上网，不能论坛发帖是吧？

不会把！！！

 

[reine02]

不会把！！！

好像有人说过，连有人上厕所，其它陪审员都得停下来，以避免发生苏联代表上厕所，美国趁机与其它国家一起通过发动朝鲜战争的联合国决定那样的事。