如此惨烈？那么多华娃扎堆的名校，还有80分以下的？不过听说很多国内刚来的带着学区房的理念，扎推买坎屯的房子，恨不得一条街都是妈妈带着孩子的情况。您就是属于拎得清的明白人啊。很多蓝翔毕业生最后还得给数理化很一般的普通大学毕业的老板打工啊。
大家一窝蜂的去让大家尊敬羡慕的好学校，心情可以理解。但是得看孩子客观情况了。EOM 10/11/12年级还是有相当比例的学生在总评80以下。如果孩子喜欢数理化，并能不落入BOTTOM 1/3的，严厉的校内评分是有利于孩子发展的， 如果落入BOTTOM 1/3, 就是负反馈了。应该去给分不是过分严厉的好学校。孩子自信心也能树立。
EOM“恶”名远扬，美国有些著名大学都知道EOM这恶名了。高中很多较真学究式样的老师被戏称为分数“屠夫”，学生最后拿到总分一个个灰头土脸。
千万别往EOM聚集了，就是一个蓝翔啊。现在卡北都堵塞了，且佛晓了。谢谢大家了。
重磅新闻BREAKING NEWS：滑大招生评估高中成绩水分的名单被媒体披露了
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80分以下的真不少， EOM的“分数屠夫”老师们太生猛。
几年前有个家长受不了了，捅到媒体了，说孩子这么用功，分数咋这么低,太欺负人了。校方支持老师做法，回复家长，如果受不了，学校不能因为个别人不喜欢而减低难度，建议家长去别的学校拿这学分。
EOM周围补习班那个多啊。
https://ottawasun.com/2014/01/12/ma...hool/wcm/48d75895-de58-450f-80a3-3bd52c54b956
Math class doesn't add up for parents at Earl of March high school
Ron Corbett
Published:January 12, 2014
Updated:January 12, 2014 9:03 PM EDT
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New math can make you cry. New math can make you laugh.
Let’s start with the crying. Here is Shabana Baig, a bio-medical engineer and the mother of Abdullah Baig, a former Earl Of March High School student in Kanata.
“It was the final exam that did it, that made a lot of us snap,” remembers Shabana. “It was one question. That’s all the exam was, one picture of a bridge, and you were supposed to use the math you had learned that term to analyze the bridge.
“The students were left writing. Page after page of writing, hoping they were talking about the things that mattered. There were no equations. There were no formulas.
“This was supposed to be a math test, right? A MATH TEST!”
So frustrated were some parents after seeing that grade-11 math test they set up a committee to examine how math was being taught at Earl of March.
They also held a public meeting for parents and students. (Here is the crying part.)
“I remember loving math class,” says Sabana. “But at this meeting, person after person stood up and said they hated math class. Just hated it.
“At that meeting students cried. Parents cried. It was just incredibly sad, the frustration that was in that room.”
Just how frustrated? Well, the final report by the Earl of March School Council Math Committee ended up being more than 300 pages.
Some of the findings will probably surprise you. Let’s start with Three-Before-Me. (This is the make-you-laugh part.)
Three-Before-Me is a teaching method where a teacher will not answer a question from a student unless the student has first posed the question to three of their classmates.
It is called “inquiry-based learning” and at Earl of March it was rigidly enforced in the math department, to the point of farce on many days.
“I cannot tell you how many times we’d approach a math teacher for help and they’d just say ‘three-before-me’,” says Abdullah Baig, who graduated from Earl of March last year and is now a first-year bio-chemistry student at the University of Ottawa.
“But how does three-before-me help you when NO ONE knows the answer?” continues Baig. “Sometimes you need to be taught how to do something.”
And that’s it. The entire new math debate in that one quote.
In a reaction against teaching by rote — or “killed by the drill” as math tables and basic arithmetic operations were once called — the Ontario government some years ago moved toward inquiry based learning, or “discovery learning” as it is sometimes called.
Inquiry learning means students are encouraged to figure out correct answers on their own, or collaboratively with their peers. It is supposed to encourage “critical thinking.” Under this educational model teachers do not teach so much as they “facilitate” or “guide.”
It is a great, warm-fuzzy theory.
And ever since we’ve been using it math scores in Ontario have been plummeting. Dropping like three stones in an ignorant sea.
“There are some things you just need to know,” argues Shabana. “You shouldn’t have to figure out everything in this world. Surely there is a place for knowledge. And surely one of those places is a math class.”
For what it’s worth, the War-and-Peace math critique by the parents at Earl of March was accepted by the school, and some changes were made this year.
The school board is also aware of the math debate raging in Kanata and other parts of the city.
“Math instruction is our area of greatest concern,” says Pino Buffone, superintendent of curriculum for the Ottawa-Carleton District School Board. “But the answer is not a return to the old days of rote instruction.
“What is needed is the right balance between problem solving skills and operational skills. That is our goal. We are hearing the message from parents and others, and that has always been our goal.”
Operational skills, by the way, are times tables and long division, the carrying and borrowing of numbers. Your old-school math instruction.
Buffone won’t say whether the proper balance is there right now. But the whole affair might remind you of a famous new-math joke (a limited comedic genre, granted, but still fun on occasion.)
The problem with inquiry learning is that students have figured out four plus five is the same thing as five plus four. What they haven’t learned yet is that four plus five equals nine.
Good luck out there.
您不是说eom都是那种学习98以上，还拳打脚踢四面出击的牛蛙吗？80分以下的真不少， EOM的“分数屠夫”老师们太生猛。
几年前有个家长受不了了，捅到媒体了，说孩子这么用功，分数咋这么低,太欺负人了。校方支持老师做法，回复家长，如果受不了，学校不能因为个别人不喜欢而减低难度，建议家长去别的学校拿这学分。
EOM周围补习班那个多啊。
https://ottawasun.com/2014/01/12/ma...hool/wcm/48d75895-de58-450f-80a3-3bd52c54b956
Math class doesn't add up for parents at Earl of March high school
Ron Corbett
Published:January 12, 2014
Updated:January 12, 2014 9:03 PM EDT
Filed Under:
New math can make you cry. New math can make you laugh.
Let’s start with the crying. Here is Shabana Baig, a bio-medical engineer and the mother of Abdullah Baig, a former Earl Of March High School student in Kanata.
“It was the final exam that did it, that made a lot of us snap,” remembers Shabana. “It was one question. That’s all the exam was, one picture of a bridge, and you were supposed to use the math you had learned that term to analyze the bridge.
“The students were left writing. Page after page of writing, hoping they were talking about the things that mattered. There were no equations. There were no formulas.
“This was supposed to be a math test, right? A MATH TEST!”
So frustrated were some parents after seeing that grade-11 math test they set up a committee to examine how math was being taught at Earl of March.
They also held a public meeting for parents and students. (Here is the crying part.)
“I remember loving math class,” says Sabana. “But at this meeting, person after person stood up and said they hated math class. Just hated it.
“At that meeting students cried. Parents cried. It was just incredibly sad, the frustration that was in that room.”
Just how frustrated? Well, the final report by the Earl of March School Council Math Committee ended up being more than 300 pages.
Some of the findings will probably surprise you. Let’s start with Three-Before-Me. (This is the make-you-laugh part.)
Three-Before-Me is a teaching method where a teacher will not answer a question from a student unless the student has first posed the question to three of their classmates.
It is called “inquiry-based learning” and at Earl of March it was rigidly enforced in the math department, to the point of farce on many days.
“I cannot tell you how many times we’d approach a math teacher for help and they’d just say ‘three-before-me’,” says Abdullah Baig, who graduated from Earl of March last year and is now a first-year bio-chemistry student at the University of Ottawa.
“But how does three-before-me help you when NO ONE knows the answer?” continues Baig. “Sometimes you need to be taught how to do something.”
And that’s it. The entire new math debate in that one quote.
In a reaction against teaching by rote — or “killed by the drill” as math tables and basic arithmetic operations were once called — the Ontario government some years ago moved toward inquiry based learning, or “discovery learning” as it is sometimes called.
Inquiry learning means students are encouraged to figure out correct answers on their own, or collaboratively with their peers. It is supposed to encourage “critical thinking.” Under this educational model teachers do not teach so much as they “facilitate” or “guide.”
It is a great, warm-fuzzy theory.
And ever since we’ve been using it math scores in Ontario have been plummeting. Dropping like three stones in an ignorant sea.
“There are some things you just need to know,” argues Shabana. “You shouldn’t have to figure out everything in this world. Surely there is a place for knowledge. And surely one of those places is a math class.”
For what it’s worth, the War-and-Peace math critique by the parents at Earl of March was accepted by the school, and some changes were made this year.
The school board is also aware of the math debate raging in Kanata and other parts of the city.
“Math instruction is our area of greatest concern,” says Pino Buffone, superintendent of curriculum for the Ottawa-Carleton District School Board. “But the answer is not a return to the old days of rote instruction.
“What is needed is the right balance between problem solving skills and operational skills. That is our goal. We are hearing the message from parents and others, and that has always been our goal.”
Operational skills, by the way, are times tables and long division, the carrying and borrowing of numbers. Your old-school math instruction.
Buffone won’t say whether the proper balance is there right now. But the whole affair might remind you of a famous new-math joke (a limited comedic genre, granted, but still fun on occasion.)
The problem with inquiry learning is that students have figured out four plus five is the same thing as five plus four. What they haven’t learned yet is that four plus five equals nine.
Good luck out there.
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这不就是Waterloo Admission平均水平吗？您记错了，学习成绩98+以上的都是IB的
EOM的90+就能上那个蓝翔大学工程和计算机
EOM的95+就能上大藤啦。
Computer Science: low 90s
Computer Engineering: low to mid-90s
Electrical Engineering: low to mid-90s
Software Engineering: mid-90s
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真心劝家长们别去EOM凑这个热闹。 老师对学的不咋的压分，对学得好也压分。两个牛蛙，一个都能进卡大数学竞争班，可能在校作业有点马虎吧，就是给刷分到80以下，给个教训； 另一计算机牛蛙，也如此，给刷到80以下，逼得人家天天自己找父母补数学。
这就是一个斯巴达式的中学，身体素质不强的，心理容易敏感的，没有奋勇追赶坚持精神的，最好别去！
您的举例太对了！如果孩子不是学霸级的，忠告各位家长：宁当鸡头不当凤尾。这里的老中都是学霸出来的，体会不到永远出不了头的那种心理感受。您记错了，学习成绩98+以上的都是IB的
EOM的90+就能上那个蓝翔大学工程和计算机
EOM的95+就能上大藤啦。
真心劝家长们别去EOM凑这个热闹。 老师对学的不咋的压分，对学得好也压分。两个牛蛙，一个都能进卡大数学竞争班，可能在校作业有点马虎吧，就是给刷分到80以下，给个教训； 另一计算机牛蛙，也如此，给刷到80以下，逼得人家天天自己找父母补数学。
这就是一个斯巴达式的中学，身体素质不强的，心理容易敏感的，没有奋勇追赶坚持精神的，最好别去！
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只是进卡大Math Competitive II 的不能算math牛娃，我儿子同学里就有5 - 6个。那个计算机牛娃给说说怎么牛法?真心劝家长们别去EOM凑这个热闹。 老师对学的不咋的压分，对学得好也压分。两个牛蛙，一个都能进卡大数学竞争班，可能在校作业有点马虎吧，就是给刷分到80以下，给个教训； 另一计算机牛蛙，也如此，给刷到80以下，逼得人家天天自己找父母补数学。
这就是一个斯巴达式的中学，身体素质不强的，心理容易敏感的，没有奋勇追赶坚持精神的，最好别去！
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你儿子太牛，不能和EOM的垃圾学笑和学生们相提并论。
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村里有一些娃学business，也非常好。不少人去了Queens，western，牛娃去了大藤。村长讲话：我们是奇葩我们为村里的华娃们在探索另一条出路，如果杀出来了，也给那些从小不致力于学医、学计算机的娃们趟条道
我家的一点也不牛，比普通学生好点而己。
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不好意思啊，不能再说细了，定位到人家具体人，家长要跟我急。总之，EOM高中那些老师就是分数的‘屠夫’。 学生也习惯了。
太遗憾了，就想了解一下和计算机牛娃的差距在哪。
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学费都不能自己搞定，能有多牛？
wangmayou
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这地儿这么好，以后我会建议市政府多在这个地儿多盖大楼，通地铁。以后土豆再收人，都安置到你那里，接受热狗兄为代表的广大富裕码农的再教育。
