各位，年薪五万多的政府工作值得去吗？

[SweetBunny]

如果在政府能做上去，应该去；如果在政府做不上去，只能停留在初级或中级的职位，应该三思。政府的比较好的职位工资也不错了，工作也比较有挑战性，不会很悠闲的。特别是如果你很喜欢写报告啊，开会啊，讲话啊，也不错的。但初级和中级职位的确非常非常悠闲，也学不到很新的知识。
个人见解，要考虑进不进政府应该考虑：
（１）性别：首先声明自己没有任何性别歧视，但政府工作对做妈妈的来说实在是太有吸引力了，如果自己孩子有任何事情，你都可以随时理直气壮地请假，每年充足的假期（１天个人假，１天volunteer day，５天家庭假，３周的年休假，工作９年后为４周年休假，随后每多工作１０年多一周，每个月１.５天的病假，灵活的在家工作安排等等）可以保证你充足的时间忙孩子的事情，更不用说１年的产假可以拿９３％的工资。（这一条不适合楼主了）
（２）年龄：如果你刚毕业，可能会觉得政府工作太BORING了。
（３）语言：双语政策对太多少数族裔是个挑战了。但政府越是高级职位，越是要求双语。
（４）是否计划在OTTAWA安定下来，一旦进了政府，再出来找工作也不容易了，因为你的知识在老化，工业界不VALUE你在政府的工作经验，你习惯了政府的工作节奏，你的退休金成为了你的束缚(so many people are working for the pension <government's pension plan is so much better than most of the private companys' retirement plans>......)，等等。。。

个人觉得，一个家庭最好是女的在政府，男的在公司。。。

 

[Eternal Flame]

（３）语言：双语政策对太多少数族裔是个挑战了。但政府越是高级职位，越是要求双语。
（４）是否计划在OTTAWA安定下来，一旦进了政府，再出来找工作也不容易了，因为你的知识在老化，工业界不VALUE你在政府的工作经验，你习惯了政府的工作节奏，你的退休金成为了你的束缚(so many people are working for the pension......)，等等。。。

one entry level job, states in the job description that only minority could apply, but require bbb? how is that possible?

are there alot of Chinese in the Government?

 

[SweetBunny]

There are more English essential positions for entry-level jobs, compared to senior-level jobs. For most senior positions, you have to be at least BBB (intermediate level), for most director and above level positions, you have to be CBC (advanced level in reading and oral interaction, intermediate level in writing).

You are right that still many entry-level positions also require BBB or even higher --- but there should be some English essential positions --- keep on looking and good luck!

one entry level job, states in the job description that only minority could apply, but require bbb? how is that possible?

are there alot of Chinese in the Government?

 

[wiiwii]

pretty much if u can't speak french, then there is no chance you will be doing management job.

 

[wiiwii]

one entry level job, states in the job description that only minority could apply, but require bbb? how is that possible?

are there alot of Chinese in the Government?

if you are doing IT or other position need special skills, then only speak englisg is ok, otherwise the chance is almost ZERO to get into the goverment even for entry level job.

 

[Eternal Flame]

if you are doing IT or other position need special skills, then only speak englisg is ok, otherwise the chance is almost ZERO to get into the goverment even for entry level job.

IT and need special skills.....and passed the 3 exams and still required BBB...........my telephone interview sucked, but, anyway, I mostly likely won't pass the bbb...

frustrated!

btw, I apologize that I condemn you in another post....that's not so nice...I know you probably just want to console me....

 

[forward]

Well said

如果在政府能做上去，应该去；如果在政府做不上去，只能停留在初级或中级的职位，应该三思。政府的比较好的职位工资也不错了，工作也比较有挑战性，不会很悠闲的。特别是如果你很喜欢写报告啊，开会啊，讲话啊，也不错的。但初级和中级职位的确非常非常悠闲，也学不到很新的知识。
个人见解，要考虑进不进政府应该考虑：
（１）性别：首先声明自己没有任何性别歧视，但政府工作对做妈妈的来说实在是太有吸引力了，如果自己孩子有任何事情，你都可以随时理直气壮地请假，每年充足的假期（１天个人假，１天volunteer day，５天家庭假，３周的年休假，工作９年后为４周年休假，随后每多工作１０年多一周，每个月１.５天的病假，灵活的在家工作安排等等）可以保证你充足的时间忙孩子的事情，更不用说１年的产假可以拿９３％的工资。（这一条不适合楼主了）
（２）年龄：如果你刚毕业，可能会觉得政府工作太BORING了。
（３）语言：双语政策对太多少数族裔是个挑战了。但政府越是高级职位，越是要求双语。
（４）是否计划在OTTAWA安定下来，一旦进了政府，再出来找工作也不容易了，因为你的知识在老化，工业界不VALUE你在政府的工作经验，你习惯了政府的工作节奏，你的退休金成为了你的束缚(so many people are working for the pension <government's pension plan is so much better than most of the private companys' retirement plans>......)，等等。。。

个人觉得，一个家庭最好是女的在政府，男的在公司。。。

Well said, I added three points:
- Timing, it is better to start a government job earlier than later, otherwise the pension does not mean much based on current formula. ( low on years of services)

- Even in management position in Fed government, what exact a manager could do if people under your team do not perform? Essentially nothing and as a manager, you will be pissed off and look really bad in the department

- if Chinese employee passed bilingual, I get a better future in government. But Let's look from another angle, if you invest the same time and effort on English (say reading, writing and oral), do you better off in private sector?

Again, this observation is based on my experience as information technology worker, may not be applicable to other career paths in government.

 

[wiiwii]

IT and need special skills.....and passed the 3 exams and still required BBB...........my telephone interview sucked, but, anyway, I mostly likely won't pass the bbb...

frustrated!

btw, I apologize that I condemn you in another post....that's not so nice...I know you probably just want to console me....

it is not a big deal, i don't care about it.

good luck for ur job hunting

 

[lilidoo]

个人觉得，一个家庭最好是女的在政府，男的在公司。。。

不错，一家两制，再来个女的入籍，男的不入，中国有事，男的冲前，当地有事，女的摆平。

 

[马六甲]

are there alot of Chinese in the Government?

根据我自己的估计, 在渥太华居住 (连 Gatineau 也算在内) 的所有华裔 (留学生除外), 至少有 30% 到 40％ 都在联邦政府工作。

 

[Eternal Flame]

根据我自己的估计, 在渥太华居住 (连 Gatineau 也算在内) 的所有华裔 (留学生除外), 至少有 30% 到 40％ 都在联邦政府工作。

这么说要是我找不到是我无能，不能怪人家歧视了？

但这双语政策对我们这种minority真的是不公平的

 

[Eternal Flame]

it is not a big deal, i don't care about it.

good luck for ur job hunting

thank you

 

[Broken English]

但这双语政策对我们这种minority真的是不公平的

Actually, unless the position require direct client service to the general public, most of the junior and intermediate positions require only English or French.

 

[mooncake]

看你的年龄，如果年轻，不要这个工作，我认识的一些人不喜欢，如果老了，拿下。

越年轻越应该拿下.年轻的可以多熬些年头,到头可以提前退休，而且PENSION也够活了（努力的话会活得更好）。年纪大了，熬不了几年，回头PENSION也没多少。当然如果已经准备好了退休了，在进去混几年也行。还在攒退休金的就算了。

 

[大风]

Fed's pay rate.
Rates of Pay for the Public Service of Canada
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to be frankly, not too high. I think most Chinese working in the government get around 40K(entry) - 70 K(senior).

It is very hard to go over senior level to enter the real management level cause they require BBB or CCC level of French and Level 3 for Written English, nor to mention the tedious, and pain in the Ass competition process.

Government pension plan example for full time employees:
Your Pension and Benefits Guide (2008) - Part 4 of 7

If you want to work for government and good pension is one of your main reason, it is better to get in there early and work there till you retire.