还记得当年,每年2月,Lisgar高中门外,冰天雪地中,排队4天4夜的家长们吗?

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村长实际就是说自己是老黄瓜。

这是个进化过程:

  1. 当天报名,先来先得。
  2. 提前几天排队报名,先来先得。
  3. 网上报名,看谁先抢进去。
  4. 递交申请资料报名,学校审查资格,决定录取
现在已经进化到第四步了? 已经脱离“先来先得”的原始形态了?
 
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There's got to be a better way

Last February, as it does every year, Ottawa's most prestigious public high school, Lisgar Collegiate Institute, briefly threw open its doors to admit any student from anywhere in the city.

By The Ottawa CitizenFebruary 1, 2006


Last February, as it does every year, Ottawa's most prestigious public high school, Lisgar Collegiate Institute, briefly threw open its doors to admit any student from anywhere in the city.

It had 30 spots open to students outside its attendance boundaries who wanted to attend Ottawa's oldest high school in September. All the candidates had to do was line up at an appointed hour.

Jacques Barrette was ready. Boy, was he ready.

The University of Ottawa professor, no stranger to things academic, wanted to enrol his son, Alexy, who was then in Grade 8.

Mr. Barrette arrived at the downtown campus with a two-man winter tent and a sleeping bag rated to minus-40, both rented from Trailhead. He had hot water bottles, thermoses and an assortment of camping gear. He had reading material; he had a portable DVD player and a couple of movies.

He had done his homework.

When Mr. Barrette arrived at the school on a Saturday morning about 9:30, it was roughly 43 hours before the doors would open for registration.

He was met by a crowd.

To his amazement, he discovered parents and prospective students had begun lining up Friday at noon -- almost three days before the school would begin accepting applications.

He was lucky. He stood 22nd in line.

This year promises to be similar, if not worse. Beginning Monday, the school will be accepting 78 "cross-boundary transfers," students normally destined for the public board's 24 other high schools.

Principal Karen Gledhill said yesterday she hopes Lisgar doesn't see a repeat of last year, when a mini-tent city sprang up on the school's playing field.

"I hope they don't start lining up on the Friday. I felt very badly that people have to do this."

In 2005, Lisgar accepted an unusually small number of transfers, which may have fed the lineup craze. It all began, said Ms. Gledhill, with a Grade 8 student from Hopewell who was determined to enrol at Lisgar, though he was outside the boundary. He pitched his tent on the Friday, at noon, and was apparently alone in line for the first several hours.

It goes beyond camping. Ms. Gledhill says she knows of families that will rent a room in a nearby hotel and take turns keeping watch in line.

The principal said she does not offer guidance to prospective students about what time to show up this weekend; she merely instructs callers about last year's experience.

Lisgar, with about 960 students, is one of Ottawa's strongest academic schools and home to a large gifted student program. Though the school board does not officially rank its schools, Lisgar has scored well in independent school ratings.

Area trustee Joan Spice said 2005 was an unusual year, the first one she remembers that involved camping out for a spot at the school.

Normally, the lineup begins early on the Monday or perhaps the night before, she explained.

"I personally do not think it's a good idea," said Ms. Spice. "I think we should have a lottery system and I proposed that a couple of years ago."

The proposal lost. She's concerned this year will be as bad as 2005, though there are more than twice as many spots.

"What I'm worried about, frankly, is that they might start lining up even earlier than Friday. I mean, I don't know where you draw the line."

Mr. Barrette, meanwhile, said it was remarkable the degree to which the line found its own order.

"It was like a mini-society. It was very quickly organized."

Everyone had a chair, for instance, lined up in order of arrival. One of the first rules established was that those in line could leave their post for a pre-determined period -- roughly half an hour -- to make a food or washroom run, without losing their place in line.

Mr. Barrette said he was fairly comfortable, sleeping in a double sleeping bag, even though temperatures dropped to minus-21 at night.

Others were not, he recalled. Some simply sat in chairs all night, retreating to cars periodically to warm up.

He remains conflicted about the process. There ought to be a more civilized way to register your child for school, he admitted, but added that a system of first-come, first-served rewards those who are more motivated.

"On the other hand, you might say that those who sleep outside for three nights deserve a place. But it's a little bit wild," said Mr. Barrette, who teaches human resources management. "It was fun, also. I enjoyed being with my son during the night. And we made new friends."

Ms. Gledhill plans to stop by the school on Sunday to monitor the lineup. The school doors should open at about 6:30 a.m. Monday and applications will be accepted from 8 a.m. onward.

Contact Kelly Egan at 726-5896 or by e-mail, kegan@thecitizen.canwest.com
 
上了lisgar能怎样,值得花这么大功夫?
 
现在已经进化到第四步了? 已经脱离“先来先得”的原始形态了?

Yes。现在象申请大学了,但没有考试,所以校长权力很大。如果你孩子是gifted program,有点特长,应该有希望的。当年某孩子还是上网抢位的时候,某孩子的体育强项在本地非常有名,lisgar 和 Canterbury 事先都已经给了许诺。
 
上了lisgar能怎样,值得花这么大功夫?

有人说,上了大学能怎样,值得花这么大功夫?比尔盖茨就退出了大学嘛。
 
村长实际就是说自己是老黄瓜。

这是个进化过程:

  1. 当天报名,先来先得。
  2. 提前几天排队报名,先来先得。
  3. 网上报名,看谁先抢进去。
  4. 递交申请资料报名,学校审查资格,决定录取
就不知如何审查资格了,当年排队的时候,听说教委是不允许考试录取的,所以只能采取原始的排队方式,后来发展得太过分了,只能改。
 
这是个进化过程:

  1. 当天报名,先来先得。
  2. 提前几天排队报名,先来先得。
  3. 网上报名,看谁先抢进去。
  4. 递交申请资料报名,学校审查资格,决定录取

现在每年给学区以外的学生,就20-30个名额,以前是80左右。

当年我朋友上网抢位置,组织10名业余枪手为抢一个位置,甚至实现做模拟网站,请枪手练习一下。
这个4, 其实也有前后次序的吧, 比如, 只审核前20个递交的材料。。。。
 
这个4, 其实也有前后次序的吧, 比如, 只审核前20个递交的材料。。。。
如果顺序有效,那不有会提前排队了?
 
有人说,上了大学能怎样,值得花这么大功夫?比尔盖茨就退出了大学嘛。
成了富翁, 成了首富又能怎样?
值得为了挣钱花那么大功夫?
 
这个4, 其实也有前后次序的吧, 比如, 只审核前20个递交的材料。。。。

如果只审核前20个递交的材料,不就又变成了排队吗?为了先交材料,又要排队了,对吧?
 
如果顺序有效,那不有会提前排队了?
所以要看审核细则是怎么来的。
这事情是没底的。
说到底, 就是这边的人没经历过千军万马奔腾而来要过你这座独木桥的情况。
最后, 要么权力大者说了算, 要么,大家跟中国一样,坐下来考试。
 
如果只审核前20个递交的材料,不就又变成了排队吗?为了先交材料,又要排队了,对吧?
呵呵, 估计不会那么蠢。 否则, 何必从第三形态进化到第四形态呢
 
所以要看审核细则是怎么来的。
这事情是没底的。
说到底, 就是这边的人没经历过千军万马奔腾而来要过你这座独木桥的情况。
最后, 要么权力大者说了算, 要么,大家跟中国一样,坐下来考试。

坐下来考试,鬼子家长肯定不干。
 
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