爆炸新闻，自由党高管竞选共同主席还没有上台就和利益集团勾结，现在辞职

[ert0000]

四处可见保黑们的双重标准。保守党的，坏的也是好的，自由党的，好的也是坏的。

革命群众要保持清醒的头脑，不要被一时的领先冲昏了头脑，并被自己打败了。
以李自成和太平天国历史为明鉴。

 

[月下独酌]

左民别激愤，这是左派媒体CBC的报道

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...air-advised-transcanada-on-lobbying-1.3271175

Liberal campaign co-chair steps down after advising TransCanada on lobbying next government
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Justin Trudeau's national campaign co-chair is stepping down after he sent a detailed email to people behind the Energy East pipeline with advice on how and when to lobby a new government — including a Liberal minority.

Earlier in the day the Liberals stood by Dan Gagnier, saying he did not break any ethical standards. But in a statement later Wednesday, Gagnier said he didn't want to be a distraction to the campaign.

"I deeply regret that the campaign has been affected by these negative, personal attacks," the statement reads.

"I have always conducted my business openly and in full accordance with the rules. In the best interests of the party, I have taken this decision. I continue to support Justin Trudeau and hope for a Liberal government on Oct. 19."

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In a statement of its own, the Liberal party said it respects Gagnier's decision, but blames the controversy on the Conservatives and their "negative and mean-spirited politics."

In the email, a copy of which was obtained by The Canadian Press, Gagnier advises five TransCanada Corp. officials to target the right people in a new government as quickly as possible so they can help shape either Liberal or NDP decisions on a national energy strategy.

Such a lobbying effort would be needed to ensure the planned "in-service" dates of projects like Energy East aren't put at risk, the email said.

Getting this "early entry point" in any revisions to the rules governing the National Energy Board "is sensitive," but also an opportunity, it continues.

"If the premiers and the new PM want investment and jobs, they will have to provide a lead and an efficient time-frame for getting this done," Gagnier writes.

Near the end of the message, he notes that energy companies needed to act "uniformly" to work with a new government if the Conservatives lose the election on Oct. 19.

"An energy strategy for Canada is on the radar and we need a spear carrier for those in the industry who are part of the solution going forward rather than refusing to grasp the implications of a changing global reality," the email reads.

"The last point is critical as federal leadership and a discussion with premiers will take place early. This is where we can play and help them get things right."

Prior to his resignation, a Liberal spokeswoman said Gagnier's analysis in the email has "nothing to do with his volunteer role on the campaign," noting that he didn't advise Trudeau on energy issues.

"The analysis draws on his years of experience in public service, and is based on publicly available information describing possible scenarios that any new government may face," Zita Astravas said in an email.

"In all areas, we hold our campaign to the highest ethical standards. I would point out that both the Conservative and NDP campaigns include many consultants."

Gagnier has spent years in politics, including time working for the Privy Council Office, the central federal bureaucracy that supports the prime minister and cabinet.

He has also worked in the federal Department of Foreign Affairs and was twice chief of staff to former Quebec premier Jean Charest.

With only five days before election day, polls have put the Liberals and Conservatives in a tight race, with the Grits in sight of forming a minority government after Oct. 19.

Under the Constitution, Prime Minister Stephen Harper still has first dibs on forming a government should there be a hung Parliament where no one party has a majority. How that would happen, or how the Liberals or NDP would transition to a new government, is the focus of much of Gagnier's Oct. 12 email.

Gagnier also writes that a Liberal or NDP government would likely reduce the size of cabinet to about 25 ministers, which would make the finance minister a critical lobbying target.

Conservative campaign spokesman Stephen Lecce tried to link the email with past Liberal miscues, which occurred before Trudeau became an MP and, later, leader.

Lecce dismissed Trudeau and the Liberals as "a party run by elite insiders who sell their influence to the highest bidder to the detriment of taxpayers."

The argument that anyone could have written a similar analysis doesn't hold water, said the NDP's ethics critic, Charlie Angus.

The email suggests Gagnier was "signalling to his friends in 'Big Oil"' how to get in the good graces of the next government, should it not be Conservative, Angus said.

"It's a pretty lame excuse when you say anybody could have written this.... No, this was the co-chair of Trudeau's campaign," Angus said.

"Anybody could have written that, but nobody would have paid attention to it if a volunteer wrote it."

搞politics的弄点这种事情不是很正常么

 

[ert0000]

搞politics的弄点这种事情不是很正常么

你该不会不知道油气行业是多大的产业，中国康师傅经营了多少年，打造了有几千亿好处的石油王国。
自由党还没有上台，就开始迫不及待开始和利益集团勾结， As soon as possible!!! OMG。 要快啊，这么多钱的工程， 别耽误。赶紧找人， 张3 李四 王5是未来政府管这事的， 快找他们活动活动。

这是啥性质的问题？ 国家交给这些人手上会是灾难。

 

[月下独酌]

你该不会不知道油气行业是多大的产业，中国康师傅经营了多少年，打造了有几千亿好处的石油王国。
自由党还没有上台，就开始迫不及待开始和利益集团勾结， As soon as possible!!! OMG。 要快啊，这么多钱的工程， 别耽误。赶紧找人， 张3 李四 王5是未来政府管这事的， 快找他们活动活动。

这是啥性质的问题？ 国家交给这些人手上会是灾难。

你这就是无限放大问题
要你这么说，石油党执政这么久了

 

[ert0000]

你这就是无限放大问题
要你这么说，石油党执政这么久了

你不理解算了， 借用村长大人的话说 “加拿大人”民主素质高，会有他们的判断。

 

[annei]

我就想知道C24，C51，算不算黑箱操作，算不算民主，一刀切又算不算民主，加拿大二等公民会有他们的判断的。

 

[annei]

你该不会不知道油气行业是多大的产业，中国康师傅经营了多少年，打造了有几千亿好处的石油王国。
自由党还没有上台，就开始迫不及待开始和利益集团勾结， As soon as possible!!! OMG。 要快啊，这么多钱的工程， 别耽误。赶紧找人， 张3 李四 王5是未来政府管这事的， 快找他们活动活动。

这是啥性质的问题？ 国家交给这些人手上会是灾难。

保守党就不会和利益集团勾结了吗？你把他们想的太好了，天下乌鸦一般黑，听说过没有哥们，人性都是一样的，没有永远的朋友，只有永远的利益。

 

[ert0000]

我就想知道C24，C51，算不算黑箱操作，算不算民主，一刀切又算不算民主，加拿大二等公民会有他们的判断的。

c-24是公民修正法，看仔细了， 哪种情况下会被剥夺公民？

However Bill C-24 has added other conditions under which a Canadian can lose his or her citizenship, thereby returning the punishment of "exile" to Canada for certain crimes including but not limited to:

• Committing an act of terrorism
• Being convicted of an act of terrorism by a foreign court

老中有啥机会和历史干过以上两个事情？


c-51是反恐法， 得到保守党和自由党同时支持，
The bill was introduced and passed by the Conservative Party, who hold a majority in Parliament, with support from the Liberal Party, which promised to amend the bill to increase oversight if elected.

看清楚，这是针对谁？
The Bill provided that the Canadian government would have the ability to intercede and stop "violent Islamic jihadi terrorists" inspired by the existence of theIslamic State of Iraq and the Levant.[19] Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney stated that the international jihadi movement had "declared war on Canada" and other countries around the world.[21] He also stated that the new tactics granted to CSIS would only be used if there are reasonable grounds to believe a particular activity constitutes a threat to the security of Canada.[21]

Liberal Party leader Justin Trudeau listed three ways the law will, in his view, improve the safety of Canadians:

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   • by making “preventive arrest” easier when police suspect someone may be planning to carry out a terrorist activity;
   • by strengthening Canada’s “no-fly list”; and
   • by improving communication and coordination on potential threats among federal agencies.

During the same exchange, when asked about what he would like to see amended further, he also said, "narrowing and limiting the kinds of new powers that CSIS and national security agencies would have.” Trudeau also said the Liberals would bring in mandatory review of the Anti-Terrorism Act every three years, and introduce oversight of CSIS by a committee of MPs."[22]



要加强学习啊， 别听左党乱叫， 这两个法老中根本没机会触犯， 实际在保护加拿大人（包括广大爱好和平和安定环境的老中）的安全。如果对木木恐怖活动纵容，老中有好处吗？ 你是愿意在一个安全的社会环境生活还是象欧洲那样木木横行搞no-go zone警察都不敢进去的地方生活？

 

[annei]

加拿大卑诗省公民自由协会执行主任派特森 (Josh Paterson，上图)在多伦多记者会上，宣布要就新公民法案提出违宪挑战，与加拿大难民律师协会一起并肩作战。

派特森指责《C-24法案》生效以後，将使超过100万加拿大人沦为「次等公民」地位，只因为这些公民本身或其双亲、祖父母在其他国家出生。

在新公民法通过後，刚入籍成为公民的新加拿大人，如因工作、就学或家庭原因迁至国外，也可能因此而失去公民资格。

无论是照顾生病的父母、嫁到异乡、或是留学，只要搬到国外，都可能遭到撤籍。

 

[annei]

All Canadian citizens used to have the same citizenship rights no matter what their origin,” B.C. Civil Liberties Association Executive Director Josh Paterson said at a news conference.

“We were all equal under the law. Now this new law has divided us into classes of citizens: those with more rights and those — overwhelmingly immigrants to Canada and their children and grandchildren —who have fewer rights.”

 

[annei]

真正令人震惊的，是当法律界在研究过C-24号法案后，向政府和公众发表的专业分析。

代表全国3万7千名律师的加拿大大律师公会（Canadian Bar Association）批评C-24号公民法违反宪法、违反国际公约和严重侵犯人权。

把加拿大人分为4等

虽然加拿大的宪法-人权及自由宪章（Charter of Rights and Freedom）开宗明义地尊定人人平等的基本价值和权利，但保守党政府却首次透过公民法，把加拿大人划分为4大类，不同类别的加拿大人享有不同的权利和待遇。

第一类，亦是享有最高权利的，是那些在加拿大出生而没有其它国籍的加拿大人。这批被誉为“真正”的加拿大人无论做了甚么事，即使犯了最严重的法，又或长期在海外居住，都不会丧失加拿大公民身份和出入境的权利。

第二类，透过归化入籍，没有双重国籍的加拿大移民。这类人即使犯了严重罪行，也不会丧失公民身份。不过，若果他们当日的移民申请有欺骗成份，又或有移民部官员认为这些透过归化入籍的公民没有意图在加拿大居住的话，公民身份便可以被撤销。

第三类，虽然在加拿大出生，却拥有双重国籍（有些国家给与公民在海外出生子女公民权，某些国家像埃及和伊朗的公民权甚至可以留传五代。亦即是说，即 使埃及裔的加拿大人已经在加国生活了数代，而这些子孙都在加拿大出生，甚至从未踏足埃及，却仍然有埃及国籍。）这类加拿大人若果犯上严重的刑事罪行、叛 国、参与恐怖活动、盗窃国家和商业机密、从事间谍活动等罪行，以及日后政府可能加进可剥夺公民权罪行名单上的行为（根据大律师公会的专业分析，当C-24 号法案打开以犯法撤销公权的先例之后，政府日后便可以把其它行为和罪行加进剥夺公民权的罪行名单里面）。

第四类，即透过归化入籍的移民，拥有双重国籍的加拿大人。大律师公会以真正的“三等”公民来形容这类人。这类人要面对所有在这项法案所提出的，包括具追溯效力和未来政府可能新增加的，都可以令这类加拿大人丧失公民身份。

原来，在C-24号法案通过之前，加拿大政府是没有权力撤销国民的公民身份的。唯一的例外，是当公民身份是透过欺骗所获得。由于政府只是把那个本来便不合资格的公民权取消，从法律的角度来看，政府并不是把一个有效的公民权撤销，所以没有违反国际公约。

但保守党政府却在C-24号新公民法案内，加入以触犯刑事法、国防法和信息保安法来撤销加拿大人的公民权，大律师公会认为这对公民权利的概念和重要性带来了前所未有的根本性改变。
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政府以涉及恐怖活动获判监禁五年作为撤销公民权利的界限，并且包括追溯过去和在外国触犯，大律师公会指出在很多国家，恐怖活动的指控其实是当权者对异见人士和政治对手的惩罚，这些罪行既没有高的司法门坎，而且还罚得很重。

因为触犯恐怖活动而获判监五年的人，很有可能没有犯上涉及伤亡的严重暴行。最近加拿大记者化米（Mohamed Fahmy）在埃及被法院判监七年，便是一个真实的个案。化米是拥有双重国籍的加拿大公民，被派到埃及采访新闻，却被埃及政府控告揑造新闻、危害国家安全 和协助恐怖份子。

这项判决由于涉及多个西方国家的新闻工作者而成为国际新闻，埃及法院审讯的情节荒谬和不公平。但更荒诞的是，加拿大的移民部官员可以透过新公民法所赋予的权力，撤销化米的加拿大公民身份，令他服刑后不能回国！

所谓恐怖活动、危害国家安全、颠覆国家、推翻政府和叛国，都是由执政者所界定和作出惩处的。无论是南非的曼德拉、中国的孙中山，又或是民运领袖，都 可以被当权者认定为颠覆国家的恐怖份子而收监。恐怖活动，并不一定是杀人和放炸弹。至于窃取国家和商业机密的间谍活动，亦可以很空泛。

把持有双重国籍公民放逐

放逐，对一位公民来说，是其中一项最严重的惩罚。这是一种在现代社会被禁止和严重侵犯人权的惩罚，并且违反国际公约。

加拿大人权及自由宪章第6.1条列明，所有加拿大公民都有权进入，逗留和离开加拿大。最高法院过去对6.1条的解释是不容许放逐。这项重大原则，就连宪法内的旦书条文（notwithstanding clause），也不能用作否决。

新公民法其中一项令人惊讶的是，可以被政府撤销公民身份放逐的，不单止那些透过移民归化入籍拥有双重国籍的公民，就连他们在加拿大出生的子孙后代，若果拥有双重国籍或可以申请外国国籍，即使他们一生都住在加拿大，一旦出事，仍然可以被取消公民身份。

由于这项打击拥有双重国籍公民的做法，是受到族裔和国家来源地俱分，既不公平，亦带歧视，亦相信违反加拿大宪法第15条。

加拿大主要报章《环球邮报》以“法律需要公平地对待所有加拿大人”作为社论标题，指出无论一个人犯了多严重的罪行，无论这个人是土生，又或是透过公平和合法方式成为加拿大人，无论这个人是好是坏，都是加拿大人。

该社论认为无论是土生，又或是在外地出生的加拿大人犯法，都应该获得同样惩罚。剥夺公民身份把人放逐，只有那些像苏联的极权国家才会做。
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取消公民上诉权利

新移民法赋予移民部官员撤销加拿大公民身份的极度权力。无论是被认定无意图居住在加拿大的归化公民，又或透过触犯刑事、国防法又或信息保安法而被撤销公民身份的人，除了涉及违反国际人权和战争罪行之外，其它所有撤销都不得上诉和向法院提出复核申诉。

大律师公会指出，新移民法同时根本性地改变了撤销公民身份的程序。

旧有法律赋予当事人到联邦法院聆讯的权利，即使法院认同部长的决定，公民撤销是由院督（Governor in Council）所执行，在撤销前院督都会再审视撤销公民身份的理据和公正性。

新移民法生效后，撤销公民程序只是以文书方式进行。当移民部官员作出决定后，部长会向当事人发出撤销通知，当事人可以书面回复，然后移民部长便会作出最后决定。当事人既不得向法院提出申诉，其撤销亦不会交给院督处理。

大律师公会严正地指出，移民部长绝对不是一位独立和公正的决策者。撤销公民身份如此重大的事情，必须经过正式的聆讯，由独立公正的法官，才符合法治和加拿大公民权的价值。

令人难以置信的是，在新公民法实施后，公民的司法权利竟然可以比永久居民和难民还要小。无论是永久居民的入籍申请，又或难民申请被移民部所拒絶，都可以获得独立聆讯，但贵为公民的若果被撤销公民身份放逐，却竟然没有申诉的权利。

 

[annei]

试问一句，澳洲，新西兰，英国和加拿大类似的英联邦国家有无在实行和C24一样的恶法，去世界上看看再来说。

 

[BoBoMa]

你该不会不知道油气行业是多大的产业，中国康师傅经营了多少年，打造了有几千亿好处的石油王国。
自由党还没有上台，就开始迫不及待开始和利益集团勾结， As soon as possible!!! OMG。 要快啊，这么多钱的工程， 别耽误。赶紧找人， 张3 李四 王5是未来政府管这事的， 快找他们活动活动。

这是啥性质的问题？ 国家交给这些人手上会是灾难。

油气行业这么大一个产业，几千亿，加上十年高油价咋让阿省人民日子都过不下去了？为啥保守党政府还要每年补贴油公司几十亿？钱都到哪去了？

 

[ert0000]

油气行业这么大一个产业，几千亿，加上十年高油价咋让阿省人民日子都过不下去了？为啥保守党政府还要每年补贴油公司几十亿？钱都到哪去了？

你拿英文原始文章和数据吧， 我给你解释被左翼媒体和政党曲解的所谓政府给石油公司补贴论。

 

[飘在加国]

试问一句，澳洲，新西兰，英国和加拿大类似的英联邦国家有无在实行和C24一样的恶法，去世界上看看再来说。

我去世界上看了一下，加拿大真不是第一个。你可以搜搜Counter terrorism law，传统的发达国家不是已经立法，就是在酝酿中。

再到C51，Justin Trudeau也是投的支持。

Revocation of British nationality
Under the Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Act 2006, people with dual nationality(看着眼熟不？） who are British nationals can be deprived of their British citizenship if the Secretary of State is satisfied "deprivation is conducive to the public good"; there is a right of appeal.This provision has been in force since 16 June 2006 when the Immigration, Nationality and Asylum Act 2006 (Commencement No 1) Order 2006 came into force.Loss of British nationality in this way also applies to people born in the UK as British citizens and who also hold another nationality.As the provision applies only to dual nationals, it cannot render a person stateless.

The Home Office does not issue information on these cases and is resistant to answering questions,for example under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.As of 15 July 2013 at least 17 people had been deprived of their British citizenship, in most cases on the recommendation of MI5. Usually it appears that the government waits until the person has left Britain, then sends a warning notice to their British home and signs a deprivation order a day or two later.Appeals are heard at the highly secretive Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC), where the government can submit evidence that cannot be seen or challenged by the appellant.

Previously since 2003 under the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002, British nationals could be deprived of their citizenship if the Secretary of State was satisfied they were responsible for acts seriously prejudicial to the vital interests of the United Kingdom or an Overseas Territory.

British nationals who are naturalised or registered may lose British nationality if it was obtained by fraud or concealment of a material fact. The nationality laws of the US, Canada and Australia have similar provisions to revoke local nationality from citizens who gained such citizenship via naturalisation.

澳大利亚
Australian government unveils bill to revoke citizenship by ministerial decree

After months of increasingly hysterical scare campaigns about terrorism, Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s government on Wednesday unveiled unprecedented legislation to arbitrarily strip citizenship from people accused of involvement in a wide range of anti-government or “terrorist”-related activity.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/25/citi-j25.html