父亲到底要不要过来？

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今天我心情大好, 给你们讲讲医院
加拿大的医疗:
就这两点"妇女生小孩"和"突发性紧急病状或伤害处理"比如车祸和突发性病状还是不错的.比中国强.
其他的就别指望了, 翻翻2-4周前的渥太华公民报,就描述那个木木老妇在医院的遭遇, 场景吗,搜搜刘少奇在开封,就那样. 医院有错吗? 可以说有,也可以说没有, 最后结果就是不了了之, 家属不满意, 大声抱怨,没用, 警察叫来了.最后禁止病人家属去医院... 病人就生死由天了.

想想吧,公立系统有好处有弊端, 好处是病人如果没钱, 理论上说政府管, 那就排队吧, 慢性病永远让位给紧急病状的病人, 医院的资源有限,比如就20个病床, 如果紧急的病人少, 慢性的或大病非手术期,就可以多呆, 如果紧急的多了, 就让位吧, 拿个担架放地上,诸如此类. 各种检查都要排长队, 有办法插队吗? 道理上不应该, 实际很严重, 具体的老夫就不多说了, 有资源的总有办法找到利益寻租渠道. 一般的人就等临终安排后事吧.

只能说你和你身边的人, 确实是没有在这里住过医院。

 

[xilihutu]

您要是没在这里住过院，亲身体验过住院的治疗服务，您就闭嘴吧！

只能说你和你身边的人, 确实是没有在这里住过医院。

没有住过院是好事，但是，随嘴就喷就不算好事了吧。

 

[ert0000]

没有住过院是好事，但是，随嘴就喷就不算好事了吧。

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...elderly-mother-at-queensway-carleton-hospital

Woman angered by treatment of elderly mother at Queensway Carleton Hospital

An Ottawa woman is accusing the Queensway Carleton Hospital of neglecting her aging mother’s care after she says she found her lying in soiled sheets with her call button disconnected.

Afshan Khan, an Ottawa paralegal, had been looking after her 80-year-old mother, Aziz Un Nisa, by herself in her Kanata home. Nisa injured her shoulder in a fall in early November and has been in the Queensway Carleton since while the family waits for a long-term care bed to open up. Khan says she’s been visiting her mother daily, bringing her food and helping her eat.

She says the hospital has been pressuring her to bring her mom home, but Khan says Nisa is too sick and Khan too tired and ill herself to care for her at home any longer.

The situation came to a head last Monday, when Khan said she went into her mother’s room and found her lying in soiled and urine-soaked sheets, sitting uncomfortably in a bed that was cranked to 90 degrees. The nurse call button had been disconnected, Khan said.

“The door was closed but I could hear my mother calling,” Khan said. “When I went in, my mom was crying. She said she’d been pressing the bell and nothing was happening.”

Khan confronted the nurses and the situation escalated. Hospital security was called and eventually Ottawa police showed up, too. Khan was ordered to leave and was told she was banned from the premises. Police told her she was lucky not to have been charged, Khan said.

She has complained to the Queensway Carleton ombudsman. She worries for her mom and for other patients who may not have family there to watch out for them.

“I don’t want other people to be treated like this,” Khan said. “I’ve seen people there who don’t have anyone to care for them. At least I’ve been there for my mother. What is happening shouldn’t be happening.”

In an email to the Citizen, Judy Brown, Director Communications & Cultural Competency for Queensway Carleton, said the hospital couldn’t talk about Khan’s complaint.

“Unfortunately Privacy Legislation does not allow us to comment on this case,” Brown wrote. “Ms. Khan’s concerns are being reviewed by our Patient Ombudsman as this is not the care QCH is known for. Ms. Khan is encouraged to contact our Ombudsman’s office for follow up on the investigation and any questions she has.”

Brown said call buttons sound an alarm if they are disconnected and would only be put out of reach if they weren’t working properly. In some cases, the button is put a little further away to encourage independence, but that’s only done after a clinical assessment and consulting with families, she said.

Nisa, who suffers from multiple health issues, including dementia, and has difficulty eating, illustrates the critical shortage of long-term care beds in Ottawa. The Queensway Carleton has an “alternative level of care” ward, where patients are placed when their acute illness is under control but their long-term destination is unknown. The ward, meant for 30, sometimes has 50 patients waiting for placement, said Leah Levesque, the hospital’s vice-president of patient care.

Some patients have been waiting on the ALC ward for more than 400 days, Levesque said. “If there were beds available, these patients would go there, but there is no capacity.”

 

[deepthroat]

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...elderly-mother-at-queensway-carleton-hospital

Woman angered by treatment of elderly mother at Queensway Carleton Hospital

浏览附件577694

An Ottawa woman is accusing the Queensway Carleton Hospital of neglecting her aging mother’s care after she says she found her lying in soiled sheets with her call button disconnected.

Afshan Khan, an Ottawa paralegal, had been looking after her 80-year-old mother, Aziz Un Nisa, by herself in her Kanata home. Nisa injured her shoulder in a fall in early November and has been in the Queensway Carleton since while the family waits for a long-term care bed to open up. Khan says she’s been visiting her mother daily, bringing her food and helping her eat.

She says the hospital has been pressuring her to bring her mom home, but Khan says Nisa is too sick and Khan too tired and ill herself to care for her at home any longer.

The situation came to a head last Monday, when Khan said she went into her mother’s room and found her lying in soiled and urine-soaked sheets, sitting uncomfortably in a bed that was cranked to 90 degrees. The nurse call button had been disconnected, Khan said.

“The door was closed but I could hear my mother calling,” Khan said. “When I went in, my mom was crying. She said she’d been pressing the bell and nothing was happening.”

Khan confronted the nurses and the situation escalated. Hospital security was called and eventually Ottawa police showed up, too. Khan was ordered to leave and was told she was banned from the premises. Police told her she was lucky not to have been charged, Khan said.

She has complained to the Queensway Carleton ombudsman. She worries for her mom and for other patients who may not have family there to watch out for them.

“I don’t want other people to be treated like this,” Khan said. “I’ve seen people there who don’t have anyone to care for them. At least I’ve been there for my mother. What is happening shouldn’t be happening.”

In an email to the Citizen, Judy Brown, Director Communications & Cultural Competency for Queensway Carleton, said the hospital couldn’t talk about Khan’s complaint.

“Unfortunately Privacy Legislation does not allow us to comment on this case,” Brown wrote. “Ms. Khan’s concerns are being reviewed by our Patient Ombudsman as this is not the care QCH is known for. Ms. Khan is encouraged to contact our Ombudsman’s office for follow up on the investigation and any questions she has.”

Brown said call buttons sound an alarm if they are disconnected and would only be put out of reach if they weren’t working properly. In some cases, the button is put a little further away to encourage independence, but that’s only done after a clinical assessment and consulting with families, she said.

Nisa, who suffers from multiple health issues, including dementia, and has difficulty eating, illustrates the critical shortage of long-term care beds in Ottawa. The Queensway Carleton has an “alternative level of care” ward, where patients are placed when their acute illness is under control but their long-term destination is unknown. The ward, meant for 30, sometimes has 50 patients waiting for placement, said Leah Levesque, the hospital’s vice-president of patient care.

Some patients have been waiting on the ALC ward for more than 400 days, Levesque said. “If there were beds available, these patients would go there, but there is no capacity.”

这故事恐怕不这么简单，还在调查中。就象美国整天报道警察粗暴对待了黑天使，您就真的以为美国的人权状况，比中国还差？

特极端的例子，哪里都有，下面这个例子，国内护工逼老人喝尿，我不相信是普遍现象。

http://860768980.home.news.cn/blog/a/0101004625770B6F71C3D10F.html

http://www.yiai.me/thread-310820-1-1.html

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6ec8c9a40100s495.html

 

[xilihutu]

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...elderly-mother-at-queensway-carleton-hospital

Woman angered by treatment of elderly mother at Queensway Carleton Hospital

浏览附件577694

An Ottawa woman is accusing the Queensway Carleton Hospital of neglecting her aging mother’s care after she says she found her lying in soiled sheets with her call button disconnected.

Afshan Khan, an Ottawa paralegal, had been looking after her 80-year-old mother, Aziz Un Nisa, by herself in her Kanata home. Nisa injured her shoulder in a fall in early November and has been in the Queensway Carleton since while the family waits for a long-term care bed to open up. Khan says she’s been visiting her mother daily, bringing her food and helping her eat.

She says the hospital has been pressuring her to bring her mom home, but Khan says Nisa is too sick and Khan too tired and ill herself to care for her at home any longer.

The situation came to a head last Monday, when Khan said she went into her mother’s room and found her lying in soiled and urine-soaked sheets, sitting uncomfortably in a bed that was cranked to 90 degrees. The nurse call button had been disconnected, Khan said.

“The door was closed but I could hear my mother calling,” Khan said. “When I went in, my mom was crying. She said she’d been pressing the bell and nothing was happening.”

Khan confronted the nurses and the situation escalated. Hospital security was called and eventually Ottawa police showed up, too. Khan was ordered to leave and was told she was banned from the premises. Police told her she was lucky not to have been charged, Khan said.

She has complained to the Queensway Carleton ombudsman. She worries for her mom and for other patients who may not have family there to watch out for them.

“I don’t want other people to be treated like this,” Khan said. “I’ve seen people there who don’t have anyone to care for them. At least I’ve been there for my mother. What is happening shouldn’t be happening.”

In an email to the Citizen, Judy Brown, Director Communications & Cultural Competency for Queensway Carleton, said the hospital couldn’t talk about Khan’s complaint.

“Unfortunately Privacy Legislation does not allow us to comment on this case,” Brown wrote. “Ms. Khan’s concerns are being reviewed by our Patient Ombudsman as this is not the care QCH is known for. Ms. Khan is encouraged to contact our Ombudsman’s office for follow up on the investigation and any questions she has.”

Brown said call buttons sound an alarm if they are disconnected and would only be put out of reach if they weren’t working properly. In some cases, the button is put a little further away to encourage independence, but that’s only done after a clinical assessment and consulting with families, she said.

Nisa, who suffers from multiple health issues, including dementia, and has difficulty eating, illustrates the critical shortage of long-term care beds in Ottawa. The Queensway Carleton has an “alternative level of care” ward, where patients are placed when their acute illness is under control but their long-term destination is unknown. The ward, meant for 30, sometimes has 50 patients waiting for placement, said Leah Levesque, the hospital’s vice-president of patient care.

Some patients have been waiting on the ALC ward for more than 400 days, Levesque said. “If there were beds available, these patients would go there, but there is no capacity.”

谢谢你给出这个link
我不清楚您是否读了，如果您读了的话，从哪里读出来是护士把老人放地上，大小便裹在毯子里包着老人。如果您读明白了还是这么说，那您不是喷了，是什么我不愿意得罪您就不说了。
我可以说的是，既然您如此仇视栽赃加拿大医院加拿大社会，既然您自己说退休要回中国，公平一点，您是否可以考虑早一点回中国享受人生呢。

说仇视不是平白无故的，您把中国有意识地折磨刘少奇与加拿大医院等同，不是仇视的话，如何理解您说的加拿大医院故意虐待人？

 

[ert0000]

谢谢你给出这个link
我不清楚您是否读了，如果您读了的话，从哪里读出来是护士把老人放地上，大小便裹在毯子里包着老人。如果您读明白了还是这么说，那您不是喷了，是什么我不愿意得罪您就不说了。
我可以说的是，既然您如此仇视栽赃加拿大医院加拿大社会，既然您自己说退休要回中国，公平一点，您是否可以考虑早一点回中国享受人生呢。

说仇视不是平白无故的，您把中国有意识地折磨刘少奇与加拿大医院等同，不是仇视的话，如何理解您说的加拿大医院故意虐待人？

刚去买了彩票，回来一看， OMG, 您老都开始把中国政治斗争的词汇“仇视” 给我带帽子了， 至于嘛？ 您老今天有啥心烦的事情说出来让大家参谋参谋。

我回帖中可没有全盘否定加拿大的医疗系统， 没看见我很客观的还说了不少加拿大医疗系统好的一面？人家那报道可不是我写的， 我和那木木老人更加不认识，我干嘛要仇视加拿大呢？我还想在加拿大多赚钱啊。

看清楚英文写的啥？ 如果您不知道“soiled sheet” 和“call button disconnected” 啥意思， 就没有继续讨论的必要了。
"lying in soiled sheets with her call button disconnected."

我都被您吓死啦， 不管您是中宣部的还是加宣部的，千万别误解老夫啊，老夫就一俗人，就赚点小钱，为以后自己养老。拜托了。

 

[吹牛逼的人]

这年纪真不该折腾了。。

 

[冷笑9声]

只能说你和你身边的人, 确实是没有在这里住过医院。

从去年初开始，陆续有人打听在国内办养老院的事情。。。老龄社会，肯定商人们看到了这块大饼，政府估计也得配合。
弄不好明年就会有新三版上市的养老中心。

 

[xilihutu]

看清楚英文写的啥？ 如果您不知道“soiled sheet” 和“call button disconnected” 啥意思， 就没有继续讨论的必要了。
"lying in soiled sheets with her call button disconnected."

都把她从病床弄下来放地上, 拿毛毯裹着,里面全被屎尿浸透

嗯，您描了红色，就是您讲的“放在地上？毛毯裹着里面屎尿浸透？”

不过，赞成您说的，没有讨论的必要了。

 

[New Person]

金山枫泾。。。
那地方真是没话说， 我当年去枫泾站修RTU， 早上7点从五角场出发， 去人民广场那里的长途汽车站等车， 到了枫泾， 人家饭也吃好了。 干活干到半夜， 说起来也是上海啊， 不夜城啊，霓虹灯闪烁啊， 12点半而已， 尼玛路上伸手不见五指， 路灯都没有， 公交本来就没有， 出租车也没有，路上也没有任何一家开着的店铺。 彻底啥都没有。 又不能在高压开关旁边过夜， 用载波电话找了调度， 托调度找当地的维修车开过来把我们拖到当地招待所， 已经忒么3～4点钟了。

就这么个地方， 会有上海人去买那里的小产权房？！

你还不如让上海人嫁到江西去算了。

看来你原来是电网搞远动的，华东中试的？